Electric Vehicles in Thailand

[vinny41]

On 11/9/2024 at 8:49 AM, JBChiangRai said:

 

Autolife are journalists, they have something in common with politicians (they don't let facts get in their way).  IMHO the only official source is DLT registrations.

 

6 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

I don’t care whether use Autolife or DLT, but we should stick to only one and not bicker over the numbers.

 

I can’t speak for other members, but  what interests me is trends.

 

How EV uptake compares to previous months and years, not in number of vehicles sold (which I find meaningless because the auto industry is on it’s knees) but as a percentage of total sales in the same category.

A forum member did contact Autolife a few months ago requesting information on what method  they were using to get their numbers but didn't receive an answer to the question

 

 

Edited Sunday at 07:47 AM by vinny41
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[Bandersnatch]

9 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

I don’t care whether use Autolife or DLT, but we should stick to only one and not bicker over the numbers

 

In a discussion with the typical troll we meet here, I would consider a published source would be seen as more credible than:

 

"here is a spreadsheet that I just cobbled together" 

[vinny41]

16 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

 

In a discussion with the typical troll we meet here, I would consider a published source would be seen as more credible than:

 

"here is a spreadsheet that I just cobbled together" 

Here is a snapshot of a spreadsheet from the DLT

Its easy to find

Number of newly registered vehicles classified by fuel type (monthly)

Select relevant month

https://web.dlt.go.th/statistics/

[motdaeng]

i thought this topic was about electric vehicles in thailand, not pages of discussion about which statistics are right or wrong. it's starting to get boring and tiring to follow this topic, and i don't see any real value in these arguments over statistics ...

suggestion to the members in question: take a break for a month or start your own new topic!

[vinny41]

2 hours ago, motdaeng said:

i thought this topic was about electric vehicles in thailand, not pages of discussion about which statistics are right or wrong. it's starting to get boring and tiring to follow this topic, and i don't see any real value in these arguments over statistics ...

suggestion to the members in question: take a break for a month or start your own new topic!

Maybe the member that posted  numbers that can't be vertified by the stats from the offical data collector

DLT registrations should consider checking with their sources before posting

as  the official source for all vehicle registrations is the DLT website

https://web.dlt.go.th/statistics/

Edited Sunday at 03:05 PM by vinny41
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[motdaeng]

 

6 hours ago, vinny41 said:

Maybe the member that posted  numbers that can't be vertified by the stats from the offical data collector

DLT registrations should consider checking with their sources ....

 

vinn41, give us a break. not everyone is as obsessed with numbers as you are. we’re talking about a few cars and some small differences in % after the coma. if it helps you to let it go, yes, you have a point, if it matters. but honestly it doesn’t ... 

[Pib]

My goodness is the cut-throat EV price war coming to an end....maybe moving into a slower pace trench warfare phase.  See below 11 Nov AutoLifeThailand article. 

 

 

https://autolifethailand.tv/avatr-no-discount/

 

AVATR cancels “cash-back” discount campaign to maintain brand image

 

Mr. Anuwat Inthraphuwasak, Chairman of the Executive Board of Infinite Automobile Co., Ltd., revealed that from the joint meeting of " Infinite Automobile " and " Eternity At One " as the official distributor of premium electric cars under the brand AVATR ( Avatar ) , the latest conclusion is to cancel the provision of cash discounts and marketing activities related to cash back discounts to maintain the image of the premium brand.

Previously, Chang'an Auto Southeast Asia Co., Ltd., the parent company, announced a sales promotion ( promotion ) to provide a cash discount of 100,000 baht during the launch in September, limited to 200 cars, which has been fully paid out. In October, there was a cash discount campaign of 60,000 baht, which the original plan was to provide this discount until the end of 2024 .

Read related news: AVATR distributor is generous! Pays 10 million to give discounts to customers who exceed the first lot quota.

The cancellation is expected to be officially announced at the latest during the upcoming Motor Expo 2024, or at the earliest on November 15 , 2024 .

“ We have decided to cancel the discount campaign to maintain the AVATR brand image and prevent misunderstandings in joining the price war. Instead, we will provide packages that enhance the value of the car and are in line with the lifestyle of consumers in this group .”

While from now on, it will focus on presenting the brand's premium luxury and technology that meets the needs of consumers, which is confident that it can compete with competitors in the same level in the market.

However, the supply of the first batch of AVATR 11 to enter the country is currently 500 units. There is a shortage of some supplies, with the first batch of only about 300 units. We are in the process of expediting understanding with consumers and finding solutions to achieve maximum satisfaction.

[HighPriority]

So, they are refusing to discount the cars they don’t have on the lot and therefore can’t sell ? 🤔

Itll be more interesting to see what they do when they have 500 cars they need to sell.

[motdaeng]

an interesting website for people who want more than just surface-level info about ev's ...

https://evclinic.eu/

 

 

https://evclinic.eu/2024/11/03/which-used-ev-to-buy-a-beginners-guide/

 

text taken from a review of the Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh:

" ...The first-generation Hyundai Ioniq is the only vehicle on which we have not had any type of intervention. Several acquaintances who own and drive them report absolutely no issues, and we have no cases in our laboratory. Prices range from €10,000 to €16,000. The battery system is composed of LGX POUCH cells, which have proven to be durable and high-quality. ... "

 

text taken from a review of the Nissan Leaf 1.gen and 2.gen:

" ... This vehicle is responsible for forming all diesel-oriented stereotypes against electric vehicles. It embodies the phrase “the whole battery needs to be replaced when it fails.” It has one of the worst chemical configurations in its battery system, with Pouch cells that are so problematic and irreparable that it’s shameful to even call this vehicle electric. We do not service them at all. The cells, due to the lack of thermal management, overheat and become permanently damaged, often involving all cells in the process. There are no higher-quality replacement cells available. ..."

 

 

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 01:09 AM by motdaeng
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[mistral53]

7 hours ago, HighPriority said:

So, they are refusing to discount the cars they don’t have on the lot and therefore can’t sell ? 🤔

Itll be more interesting to see what they do when they have 500 cars they need to sell.

There is no equivalent to the Avatr 11 for sale in Thailand at their price point, which gives them quite some pricing power. They also have set themselves a moderate sales goal, suggesting they are going for a limited market segment that is not as price sensitive as the more mainstream offerings which presently undergoes cut-throat competition.

 

It will be interesting to see how this strategy works in general - luxury cars with a Chinese name? It's the next big thing in China, where sub-brands like Denza and Yang Wang from BYD are taking on premium brands from Europe at half the price?

[JBChiangRai]

MG4 on sale...

 

D model 599k

X-Power 899k

Edited Tuesday at 04:47 AM by JBChiangRai
Spellification

[CLW]

On 11/4/2024 at 10:46 AM, Bandersnatch said:

Recent post from Autolifethailand to follow on from @mistral53 post above.

 

Which would be your choice?

 

 

 

 

Also mention the Zeekr Mix multi-purpose van. Expected price starting at 1.3 million THB. Only comparable car I could think of would be Volkswagen Multivan or the ID.Buzz at four times the price of the Zeekr.

 

https://autostation.com/cars/zeekr-mix-2024-electric-mpv-officially-launched-in-china/

 

[CLW]

On 11/6/2024 at 3:52 PM, mistral53 said:

NETA has a plant in Thailand - and of course this is not good news for owners of this brand, either.

 

https://carnewschina.com/2024/11/06/chinese-automaker-neta-reportedly-halts-production-and-cuts-salaries/

 

You beat it to me. Just read about this today morning in german car news. Neta has problems to sell his mid and upper range models (lacking quality and facing competetion?). And with the entry models no money to be made. In my opinion Neta is only successful in Thailand because they are cheap. In medium price range the cars from BYD, Changan or MG are much better quality.

[CLW]

On 11/12/2024 at 11:47 AM, JBChiangRai said:

MG4 on sale...

 

D model 599k

X-Power 899k

😭 I bought mine (X model, NOT X-Power) about one year ago for 899k

[Bandersnatch]

BYD Sealion 7 is the fully electric version of the BYD Sealion 6 plug-in hybrid.

 

The UK are only getting the 7 not the 6, while Thailand has the 6 and we don't know if we will get the 7 yet

 

 

 

[motdaeng]

1 hour ago, Bandersnatch said:

BYD Sealion 7 is the fully electric version of the BYD Sealion 6 plug-in hybrid.

The UK are only getting the 7 not the 6, while Thailand has the 6 and we don't know if we will get the 7 yet

 

imho, the byd sealion 7 is essentially the suv version of the byd seal, sharing the same platform, motor, and other features ...

in malaysia, the sealion 7 is priced slightly higher than the byd seal ... i think the pricing will be similar in thailand ...

 

at the motor expo later this month in bangkok, the sealion 7 will be on display.

car transporters carrying the vehicle have already been spotted ...

 

 

     

 

Edited 14 hours ago by motdaeng

[motdaeng]

i have been comparing the specifications and features of the byd sealion 7 across different regions (china, hong kong, malaysia, and europe). i noticed some differences, such as the platform used, charging capabilities, interior features, and engine performance etc.

my conclusion is that what is released in china may differ from what is available in the global market!

 

i quickly watched the sealion 07 presentation in malaysia and am quite sure there was a mistake (very poor charging time) in it.

btw, the top model byd sealion 7 in china and europe can charge max 240kw dc, malaysia only 150kw dc .....!

 

 

[motdaeng]

the zeekr 7x is a very interesting mid-range suv. it makes sense for zeekr to expand its lineup in thailand; with only two models (zeekr x and zeekr 009), the brand has a relatively weak presence in the market. who knows, maybe the zeekr 001or zeekr 007 will arrive in thailand first ...

 

there’s a lot happening in thailand’s ev market... and that’s a good thing!

 

https://www.zeekrglobal.com/

 

 

[matchar]

37 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

i have been comparing the specifications and features of the byd sealion 7 across different regions (china, hong kong, malaysia, and europe). i noticed some differences, such as the platform used, charging capabilities, interior features, and engine performance etc.

my conclusion is that what is released in china may differ from what is available in the global market!

 

i quickly watched the sealion 07 presentation in malaysia and am quite sure there was a mistake (very poor charging time) in it.

btw, the top model byd sealion 7 in china and europe can charge max 240kw dc, malaysia only 150kw dc .....!

 

 

The Malaysian Sealion is a 400V platform. European is 800V.

[JBChiangRai]

I'm looking forward to Thailand getting some of the larger luxury EV's from China.