Motorcyclist run over by car after coming off his bike

[webfact]

Daily News Thai Caption: Run over by a car (after falling off a bike)

 

Bang Sri Muang police and Poh Teck Tung rescue services in Nonthaburi were called after the death of a motorcyclist on the Ratchapreuk Road heading towards Rattanathibet Road last night.

 

Suraphan, 37, an engineer, had come off his Honda PCX and was lying in the road, a fact caught on CCTV.

 

He was unconscious. 

 

Then along came Chanisa, 44, in her Mazda 3. She was going quite slowly.

 

Join our daily ASEAN NOW Thailand Newsletter - Click to subscribe

 

Picture: Daily News

 

She said she saw shadows then suddenly realised it was a person lying there. 

 

She slammed on the brakes but dragged the body along under her car.

 

Daily News reported that the victim was wearing a gold necklace and bracelet, a watch and carrying a quantity of cash.

 

Poh Teck Tung took the body away for autopsy. 

 

-- © Copyright  ASEAN NOW 2022-05-05

 

- Pacific Prime offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here.

 

- Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates

 

Get your business in front of millions of customers who read ASEAN NOW with an interest in Thailand every month - email [email protected] for more information

[chalawaan]

Thai roads <deleted>-poor lighting strikes again.

 

But it sounds like the deceased would have been answering some difficult questions had he survived.

 

Thai jail, or possible recovery with lifelong pain or brain damage, AND Thai jail, or death arriving whilst unconscious.

 

I know what I would choose.

RIP to him either way. 

[spidermike007]

Very tragic. She saw a shadow? Was that due to 40% tinting on her windshield. We recently bought a new car which came with tinting. I could barely see out of the front at night. Everything looked like a shadow. I insisted on removing the tint from the windshield. In the US, due to the tinting, she would likely be charged with manslaughter, from negligence, which this appears to be. 

 

Or was she simply not paying attention? On her phone? Texting? On facebook? If she was going quite slow, was paying attention, and had clear visibility, she should have been able to react in time to avoid taking this mans life. 

Edited May 5, 2022 by spidermike007

[Liverpool Lou]

12 minutes ago, chalawaan said:

it sounds like the deceased would have been answering some difficult questions had he survived.

Why?  

[Liverpool Lou]

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

Very tragic. She saw a shadow? Was that due to 40% tinting on her windshield. We recently bought a new car which came with tinting. I could barely see out of the front at night. Everything looked like a shadow. I insisted on removing the tint from the windshield. In the US, due to the tinting, she would likely be charged with manslaughter, from negligence, which this appears to be. 

 

Or was she simply not paying attention? On her phone? Texting? On facebook? If she was going quite show, was paying attention, and had clear visibility, she should have been able to react in time to save his life. 

...or none of that unfounded speculation and accusation.   

[ezzra]

Its one of them situation where you scratch your head and ask, why did it happen?

what the rider doing on the road and how come a young woman can't see where she's going?...

[chippendale]

30 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Very tragic. She saw a shadow? Was that due to 40% tinting on her windshield. We recently bought a new car which came with tinting. I could barely see out of the front at night. Everything looked like a shadow. I insisted on removing the tint from the windshield. In the US, due to the tinting, she would likely be charged with manslaughter, from negligence, which this appears to be. 

 

Or was she simply not paying attention? On her phone? Texting? On facebook? If she was going quite slow, was paying attention, and had clear visibility, she should have been able to react in time to avoid taking this mans life. 

Brilliant investigative work, detective Spidermike 007. Case closed.

 

Have a well deserved rest.

[mancub]

16 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

..or none of that unfounded speculation and accusation.   

Allow me to ( unfoundedly, unashamedly and wildly ) speculate from the only details reported, thus....

Victim knocked off his bike on a straight stretch of road. in an attempted robbery as he was carrying a "quantity" of cash, ( although no mention of the quantification of said "quantity" - maybe just bt30 in loose change).

Then along came Chanisa, 44, in her Mazda 3. She was going quite slowly as she'd just come out of Lotus car park and, as all too commonly happens, forgot to switch her lights on as the road was lit by streetlights.......

Or......who knows ?

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Very tragic. She saw a shadow? Was that due to 40% tinting on her windshield. We recently bought a new car which came with tinting. I could barely see out of the front at night. Everything looked like a shadow. I insisted on removing the tint from the windshield. In the US, due to the tinting, she would likely be charged with manslaughter, from negligence, which this appears to be. 

 

Or was she simply not paying attention? On her phone? Texting? On facebook? If she was going quite slow, was paying attention, and had clear visibility, she should have been able to react in time to avoid taking this mans life. 

Some of the Thais I know have 60/80 split tints 60 on the front windscreen and 80 on the other windows including the rear.

 

Far too dark for safe night driving as you can barely see anything even with headlights on full beam. 

 

Seems you riled some of the usual suspects with your comment, but it is a fair and valid question given the proliferation of these types of tints on Thai vehicles and the almost complete absence of any checking by the authorities. 

[bdenner]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Very tragic. She saw a shadow? Was that due to 40% tinting on her windshield. We recently bought a new car which came with tinting. I could barely see out of the front at night. Everything looked like a shadow. I insisted on removing the tint from the windshield. In the US, due to the tinting, she would likely be charged with manslaughter, from negligence, which this appears to be. 

 

Or was she simply not paying attention? On her phone? Texting? On facebook? If she was going quite slow, was paying attention, and had clear visibility, she should have been able to react in time to avoid taking this mans life. 

As suggested, unfounded speculation!

BUT, just to add:-

I have bought 3 cars during my 21 years living here and on each occasion had to "demand" the tinting contractor not to apply film to the windscreen = stupid Farang "ba ba bor bor"!

[vandeventer]

Always wear reflective clothing at night while riding your bike with a white helmet so everyone can see you.

Edited May 5, 2022 by vandeventer

[hotchilli]

1 hour ago, vandeventer said:

Always wear reflective clothing at night while riding your bike with a white helmet so everyone can see you.

And still wipe you out.

[vandeventer]

11 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

And still wipe you out.

At least they can't say they didn't see you!

[richard_smith237]

4 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

5 hours ago, chalawaan said:

it sounds like the deceased would have been answering some difficult questions had he survived.

Why?  

Because of the ‘assets’ he was carrying. 

The linked article implies plural - Wristwatches, necklaces and cash. 

 

However, as we know, the reporting in Thailand is extremely poor - if it was just a wrist watch, a necklace and some cash then why even bother reporting it ????

 

Is the journalist (I use that term very loosely) alluding to something else ? - i.e. the deceased fell off his bike while escaping from a robbery ?....  OR, is this just terrible reporting and we are reading too much into it ?

 

So.. Why? - I think the reporter has some questions to answer too !!!! 

[Road Warrior]

maybe the driver should be more aware at night driving and not speeding ????

[richard_smith237]

4 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Very tragic. She saw a shadow? Was that due to 40% tinting on her windshield. We recently bought a new car which came with tinting. I could barely see out of the front at night. Everything looked like a shadow. I insisted on removing the tint from the windshield. In the US, due to the tinting, she would likely be charged with manslaughter, from negligence, which this appears to be. 

 

Or was she simply not paying attention? On her phone? Texting? On facebook? If she was going quite show, was paying attention, and had clear visibility, she should have been able to react in time to save his life. 

...or none of that unfounded speculation and accusation.   

I wouldn’t be so quick to attack spidermike007.....   the vast majority of cars on the roads in Thailand have tint that is too dark and would be illegal in many of our home countries. 

Combine that with very poor city road lighting and we have the recipe for this sort of incident. 

 

Unfounded ? not really, the lady was driving her Mazda slowly and still hit a body in the street ? Why? because she only saw a shadow, why? was her tint too dark ??? or not paying attention for another reason ???

 

Of course, poor lighting is also a factor.... 

 

On a forum designed for discussion those posting with plenty of experience in Thailand will naturally come with with answers which are ‘assumptions’ which of course can’t be proven but would have a high probability of being correct....  If this was at 2am we could also add booze to the list of assumption and face a higher probability of being correct. 

 

Of course, someone such as yourself who only ever attacks posters and never actually passes any comment on the incident itself would argue...  there is no proof... blah blah blah... as if you are in court !!!! 

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, Road Warrior said:

maybe the driver should be more aware at night driving and not speeding ????

The article mentioned that the CCTV showed that the Mazda was being driven ‘quite slowly’....  

 

The road clearly looks very poorly lit. Spidermike also made a valid point about the possibility of dark tint on the windscreen. 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

2 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Always wear reflective clothing at night while riding your bike with a white helmet so everyone can see you.

Where ever possible I avoid riding at night....    there are too many potential issues... 

- Poor lighting

- Unable to clearly see the poor road surface / drains / potholes

- Too many drunks driving at night 

- Other drivers can’t see clearly (dark tint)

[Iamfalang]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

the death of a motorcyclist

free world in my mind.  feel free to walk in the middle of the road with a blindfold and dark clothes at 2 a.m., it's your choice.  I'm sure riding a motorbike is awesome in Thailand when things go well.  

 

But it's one of the MOST dangerous places in the world to ride.    as long as you understand that.  

[spidermike007]

3 hours ago, bdenner said:

As suggested, unfounded speculation!

BUT, just to add:-

I have bought 3 cars during my 21 years living here and on each occasion had to "demand" the tinting contractor not to apply film to the windscreen = stupid Farang "ba ba bor bor"!

Can you imagine? The silly foreigner wants to have good visibility at night, and wants to practice safe driving. How odd these people are. 

[Nkpjed]

4 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Always wear reflective clothing at night while riding your bike with a white helmet so everyone can see you.

And if they’re not paying attention, which is most often the case, you still get run over.

[Burma Bill]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

reported that the victim was wearing a gold necklace and bracelet, a watch and carrying a quantity of cash.

So what! IMO nothing to do with the accident and why report it? RIP motorcycle man.

[richard_smith237]

23 minutes ago, Burma Bill said:

7 hours ago, webfact said:

reported that the victim was wearing a gold necklace and bracelet, a watch and carrying a quantity of cash.

So what! IMO nothing to do with the accident and why report it? RIP motorcycle man.

Exactly, the reporting is extremely clumsy - highlighting something which is either completely irrelevant, just like highlighting he was wearing trousers... OR there is some significance to what he was carrying but the reporter fails to elaborate. 

 

Its just really dumb reporting... no change there. 

[Eaglekott]

On 5/5/2022 at 11:19 AM, webfact said:

Suraphan, 37, an engineer, had come off his Honda PCX and was lying in the road, a fact caught on CCTV.

 

He was unconscious.

My question would be: "How did he come off his bike in the first place, and how did they know he was unconscious and not dead already?"

 

 

[Liverpool Lou]

On 5/5/2022 at 12:13 PM, mancub said:

Allow me to ( unfoundedly, unashamedly and wildly ) speculate from the only details reported, thus....

Victim knocked off his bike on a straight stretch of road. in an attempted robbery as he was carrying a "quantity" of cash, ( although no mention of the quantification of said "quantity" - maybe just bt30 in loose change).

Then along came Chanisa, 44, in her Mazda 3. She was going quite slowly as she'd just come out of Lotus car park and, as all too commonly happens, forgot to switch her lights on as the road was lit by streetlights.......

Or......who knows ?

 

Jesus Christ...

[Liverpool Lou]

On 5/5/2022 at 1:08 PM, Mr Meeseeks said:

given the proliferation of these types of tints on Thai vehicles and the almost complete absence of any checking by the authorities. 

"...complete absence of any checking by the authorities".

What is there to check when there are no laws in Thailand prohibiting the use of any strength of tint?

Edited May 7, 2022 by Liverpool Lou

[Liverpool Lou]

On 5/5/2022 at 4:35 PM, richard_smith237 said:

On 5/5/2022 at 11:39 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

On 5/5/2022 at 11:27 AM, chalawaan said:

it sounds like the deceased would have been answering some difficult questions had he survived.

Why?  

Because of the ‘assets’ he was carrying. 

The linked article implies plural - Wristwatches, necklaces and cash. 

There is no such implication.   From the OP...

"...the victim was wearing a gold necklace and bracelet, a watch and carrying a quantity of cash".

[Liverpool Lou]

On 5/5/2022 at 4:40 PM, richard_smith237 said:

On 5/5/2022 at 11:41 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

On 5/5/2022 at 11:38 AM, spidermike007 said:

Very tragic. She saw a shadow? Was that due to 40% tinting on her windshield. We recently bought a new car which came with tinting. I could barely see out of the front at night. Everything looked like a shadow. I insisted on removing the tint from the windshield. In the US, due to the tinting, she would likely be charged with manslaughter, from negligence, which this appears to be. 

 

Or was she simply not paying attention? On her phone? Texting? On facebook? If she was going quite show, was paying attention, and had clear visibility, she should have been able to react in time to save his life. 

Expand  

...or none of that unfounded speculation and accusation.   

I wouldn’t be so quick to attack spidermike007.....  

That was not an attack, it was an accurate observation.

[Doctor Tom]

On 5/5/2022 at 11:38 AM, spidermike007 said:

Was that due to 40% tinting on her windshield. We recently bought a new car which came with tinting. I could barely see out of the front at night. Everything looked like a shadow. I insisted on removing the tint from the windshield.

I avoid driving at night for that very reason, and the drunken lunatics you may well meet at night.  It severely restricts my social life, but I'd rather be safe than socialising 

[Liverpool Lou]

On 5/5/2022 at 4:40 PM, richard_smith237 said:

On a forum ...

someone such as yourself who only ever attacks posters and never actually passes any comment on the incident itself would argue...  there is no proof... blah blah blah... as if you are in court !!!! 

"...someone such as yourself who only ever attacks posters..."

No, I do not "only attack posters" so I'd like to see an example of anything that you think is a personal attack (not my opinion or my pointing out of clearly wrong information or assertions) on other members.  Over to you.

 

I make observations and post accordingly as this is a forum and the choice of how to post is mine, not yours.  It's odd how so many posters seem to think that a member reacting against another's comment is "an attack" and not simply an accurate observation or different opinion. 

 

"...there is no proof... blah blah blah... as if you are in court !!!!"

Yet other posters, not me, are permitted (by you!) to post clearly inaccurate or just plain wrong assertions as though they are in court?