onthedarkside Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Priti Patel has reportedly called the last-minute intervention by the European Court of Human Rights (EHCR) that grounded the government’s first deportation flight to Rwanda “scandalous”. The flight was halted minutes before its scheduled take-off on Tuesday after the ECHR ruled two of the asylum seekers due to be on board should not be removed from the UK until their appeals had been heard. The home secretary said soon after that the new deportation scheme would continue despite the false start. ... But on Friday, in an interview with The Telegraph, Ms Patel said: “The opaque way this court has operated is scandalous.” (more) https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/priti-patel-rwanda-flight-echr-b2103928.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2022 Loving the ECHR. Keep up the good work. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Well she would say that wouldn’t she. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loiner Posted June 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2022 17 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Well she would say that wouldn’t she. She would, because she is absolutely right. There was no need for our government to even consider what somebody in Strasbourg says when our own supreme courts have already ruled in the matter. We often don't comply with them anyway. Who are the anonymous 'judges' in the ECHR anyway and why does the ECHR refuse to name them? There is always something wrong about secret justice. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted June 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2022 17 hours ago, onthedarkside said: Priti Patel has reportedly called the last-minute intervention by the European Court of Human Rights (EHCR) that grounded the government’s first deportation flight to Rwanda “scandalous” Ah the irony of a member of this cabinet accusing others of scandalous behaviour. LOL indeed. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 41 minutes ago, Loiner said: She would, because she is absolutely right. There was no need for our government to even consider what somebody in Strasbourg says when our own supreme courts have already ruled in the matter. We often don't comply with them anyway. Who are the anonymous 'judges' in the ECHR anyway and why does the ECHR refuse to name them? There is always something wrong about secret justice. https://www.echr.coe.int/Pages/home.aspx?p=court/judges&c 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, candide said: https://www.echr.coe.int/Pages/home.aspx?p=court/judges&c Not a useless list to pick and chose from. Which ones were ready to sit late at night and think they have authority to reverse a UK Supreme Court decision. Edited June 19, 2022 by onthedarkside trolling comment removed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 6 hours ago, Loiner said: Not a useless list to pick and chose from. Which ones were ready to sit late at night and think they have authority to reverse a UK Supreme Court decision. They applied the EHR Convention. And they did not "think they have authority", they do have authority as international law (the convention UK actively contributed to design, and signed) is above national law. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted June 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Loiner said: She would, because she is absolutely right. There was no need for our government to even consider what somebody in Strasbourg says when our own supreme courts have already ruled in the matter. We often don't comply with them anyway. Who are the anonymous 'judges' in the ECHR anyway and why does the ECHR refuse to name them? There is always something wrong about secret justice. I guess it's a real problem for the right to see legal process take its course. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Keep going and worse will happen if a solution with a sufficient deterrent to the immigration problem is not found soon. British people are sick to the back teeth of it, which is why drastic (and some may argue questionable) projects like the Rwandan flights are gaining popularity. Personally I have no problem with the Rwandan idea, I think it is brilliant. Get rid of the lot of them I say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Keep going and worse will happen if a solution with a sufficient deterrent to the immigration problem is not found soon. British people are sick to the back teeth of it, which is why drastic (and some may argue questionable) projects like the Rwandan flights are gaining popularity. Personally I have no problem with the Rwandan idea, I think it is brilliant. Get rid of the lot of them I say. But you know for every immigrant sent to Uganda, the UK has to accept one from Rwanda, probably a Congolese. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 4 hours ago, candide said: It doesn't matter. They applied the EHR Convention. And they did not "think they have authority", they do have authority as international law (the convention UK actively contributed to design, and signed) is above national law. They have no real authority at all. ECHR is not above national law. From its' original conception, it has developed into ust another European talk shop. If countries don't like the findings of the ECHR they simply ignore them, as we should have done in this case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Loiner said: They have no real authority at all. ECHR is not above national law. From its' original conception, it has developed into ust another European talk shop. If countries don't like the findings of the ECHR they simply ignore them, as we should have done in this case. The UK has signed an agreement decades ago to recognise the ECHR. As such it does transcend conflicting national laws as was demonstrated recently in the cancellation of the deportment flight to Rwanda. Edited June 19, 2022 by ozimoron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 58 minutes ago, Loiner said: They have no real authority at all. ECHR is not above national law. From its' original conception, it has developed into ust another European talk shop. If countries don't like the findings of the ECHR they simply ignore them, as we should have done in this case. By definition international laws are above national laws. Mind you, why do you think sovereign UK cancelled the flight? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 minute ago, candide said: By definition international laws are above national laws. Mind you, why do you think sovereign UK cancelled the flight? The ECHR is not above national laws. I think I have already stated that we don't know the full details of why the flight with remaining illegals was cancelled. It was not a directive of the ECHR though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Loiner said: The ECHR is not above national laws. I think I have already stated that we don't know the full details of why the flight with remaining illegals was cancelled. It was not a directive of the ECHR though. Got a link? The OP quotes Patel as saying the EHCR did stop the flight. Can you point to any legal opinion that supports your view that the ECHR is not above national law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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