On 7/3/2022 at 3:36 PM, DaddyWarbucks said:

Migration of enslaved Africans northward started long before 1865.

The Philadelphia Quaker Isaac T. Hopper in the very early 1800s began what was to become the Underground Railroad that fugitive slaves used to travel north to what they fondly believed was the Promised Land.

The reality proved to be quite different and they soon entered a new kind of servitude.

The post Civil War period saw them essentially no better off than they were before.

Southern chain gangs and Jim Crow are often rightly criticised but the north was in many ways worse for them and the weather was cold to boot.

New York draft riots during the Civil War targeted blacks and as late as 1906 there was a Congolese pygmy named Ota Benga confined in the Monkey House at the Bronx Zoo.

Let the south beat that if it can for sheer humiliation.

Informative post.

When the Woke taboos are broken and the memory hole is plumbed to its murky depths there is going to  be some interesting history written.

On 7/3/2022 at 3:36 PM, DaddyWarbucks said:

Migration of enslaved Africans northward started long before 1865.

The Philadelphia Quaker Isaac T. Hopper in the very early 1800s began what was to become the Underground Railroad that fugitive slaves used to travel north to what they fondly believed was the Promised Land.

The reality proved to be quite different and they soon entered a new kind of servitude.

The post Civil War period saw them essentially no better off than they were before.

Southern chain gangs and Jim Crow are often rightly criticised but the north was in many ways worse for them and the weather was cold to boot.

New York draft riots during the Civil War targeted blacks and as late as 1906 there was a Congolese pygmy named Ota Benga confined in the Monkey House at the Bronx Zoo.

Let the south beat that if it can for sheer humiliation.

Even before the Revolution, blacks escaped to the North, even some were purchased out of bondage or liberated by owners, but serious migration happened in the early 20th Century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Migration_(African_American)

At this link you can read about conditions in the South, North and much more. Recent European immigrants were the source of opposition to blacks arriving in the North since these immigrants feared competition from blacks for low-paid jobs.

 

It's interesting that the notorious Dred Scott decision of 1857 used "originalist" logic to deny the rights of a citizen to blacks, even those freemen residing in states where slavery was already illegal. (The "originalist" majority on the Court just overturned the abortion decision Rowe vs Wade of 1973).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford

This is very interesting. The decision's overreach is thought to be a major factor in the leadup to the Civil War. (Both the 1857 and 2022 decisions went against the mainstream, putting the Court out on a limb).

 

 

On 7/2/2022 at 11:37 AM, Jingthing said:

I think this is about the insane backlash against critical race theory. They don't want the white kids to feel guilty or some such silliness.

Not sure why people should feel guilty about slavery, its so long ago besides many of the original slaves were captured by their fellow countrymen not whites. 

 

They should tell it how it that is was a horrible practice that was done in the past. Should sugarcoat it but at the same time nobody living now should feel guilty about it.

On 7/3/2022 at 8:01 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

That is a song about lynching, rather than slavery .

And I can confidently say generally, the huge majority of people find lynchings to be abhorrent and a shameful aspect of Americas past .

   If there are any people that agree with them, they are in a very small minority

A Federal law specifically making lynching a hate crime was passed this year.

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/29/1086720579/lynching-is-now-a-federal-hate-crime-after-a-century-of-blocked-efforts

 

Guns rather than rope seem to be the current preferred method for executing blacks.