Derek Chauvin gets 21 years in jail for violating George Floyd's civil rights

[mikebike]

16 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The question raised was why did Floyds death get so much more media publicity than Tonys death did , when they were both very similar situations and deaths .

   Can you answer that question  ?

Yes.

[mikebike]

5 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

And we are talking about the huge amount of media coverage that Floyd got, compared to other similar cases 

No, it seems to be you trying to drag the thread off-topic.

[proton]

Nice to know that serial petty criminals and drugs users have civil rights, what about the rights of innocent people who are the victims of people like Floyd? Sentence totally over the top for political reasons. 

[Rimmer]

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[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, proton said:

Nice to know that serial petty criminals and drugs users have civil rights, what about the rights of innocent people who are the victims of people like Floyd? Sentence totally over the top for political reasons. 

Care to elaborate? What political reasons gave Chauvin an "over the top" sentence? Which innocent people did Floyd hurt?

[proton]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

Care to elaborate? What political reasons gave Chauvin an "over the top" sentence? Which innocent people did Floyd hurt?

The pregnant woman he robbed sticking a gun in her belly the best known, but a string of other offences, overdosed the week before his suicide by cop, decides to pass fake notes while out of his head when probably on the way to the morgue anyway.

[ozimoron]

7 minutes ago, proton said:

The pregnant woman he robbed sticking a gun in her belly the best known, but a string of other offences, overdosed the week before his suicide by cop, decides to pass fake notes while out of his head when probably on the way to the morgue anyway.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/16/instagram-posts/no-photo-doesnt-show-woman-george-floyd-allegedly-/

 

Overdosed? links?

 

Extrajudicial death penalty for passing fake $20 notes?

[candide]

7 minutes ago, proton said:

The pregnant woman he robbed sticking a gun in her belly the best known, but a string of other offences, overdosed the week before his suicide by cop, decides to pass fake notes while out of his head when probably on the way to the morgue anyway.

Floyd was served 4 years in prison for his offenses.

[bert bloggs]

26 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Care to elaborate? What political reasons gave Chauvin an "over the top" sentence? Which innocent people did Floyd hurt?

You are joking,look it up

[bert bloggs]

3 hours ago, candide said:

And your post was a distraction. The subject brought up by another poster was why another case involving a white victim did not cause as much "outrage" as Floyd's case. 

Isn't protesting a way to express outrage?

Yes and lots and lots of looting.

[ozimoron]

3 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

BLM was actually focussed on enriching themselves at the hands of gullible, guilty liberals. The founders are self-described "trained Marxists" who still somehow manage to acquire impressive real estate portfolios.

completely delusional. You have no evidence that BLM is an organisation or has any "founders".

[CharlieH]

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[Hanaguma]

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

completely delusional. You have no evidence that BLM is an organisation or has any "founders".

Of course. That is why

 

https://blacklivesmatter.com

 

is not actually a website about an organization, complete with merchandise and social media profiles.

 

And of course they don't really mean it when they say;

 

"Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, Inc. is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes."

[Bluespunk]

2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

And of course they don't really mean it when they say;

 

"Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, Inc. is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes."

Please provide empirical evidence that conclusively proves BLM is not sincere in its mission statement. 

[Hanaguma]

9 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Please provide empirical evidence that conclusively proves BLM is not sincere in its mission statement. 

One of the founders spent $3 million to purchase 4 luxury homes. Plus $6 million to purchase a VERY nice home of 6500 square feet with donations to the BLMGNF.c

 

But hey, at least you admit the organization exists. That is a step in the right direction...

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

And we are talking about the huge amount of media coverage that Floyd got, compared to other similar cases 

Erm, that’s what you’d like the topic to be about.

 

But it’s not.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, proton said:

Nice to know that serial petty criminals and drugs users have civil rights, what about the rights of innocent people who are the victims of people like Floyd? Sentence totally over the top for political reasons. 

Under the Constitution everyone in America has rights.

 

For political reasons you think this cold blooded murdering cop has received a an over the top sentence.

 

We got that.

[Hanaguma]

20 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Please provide empirical evidence that conclusively proves BLM is not sincere in its mission statement. 

Further, their very mission statement is premised on a lie, that Trayvon Martin's killer was a murderer who was set free. Not true. Hi did kill Trayvon, but it wasn't murder, as his trial proved. Their next big case, Michael Brown, was the same.  All hype and no basis in reality. 

 

Instead of worrying about State violence against black people, they should worry about the biggest perpetrator of violence on African Americans- OTHER black people. 

[Bluespunk]

9 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

One of the founders spent $3 million to purchase 4 luxury homes. Plus $6 million to purchase a VERY nice home of 6500 square feet with donations to the BLMGNF.c

 

But hey, at least you admit the organization exists. That is a step in the right direction...

You appear to have not answered my request. 

Edited July 8, 2022 by Bluespunk

[Bluespunk]

2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Further, their very mission statement is premised on a lie, that Trayvon Martin's killer was a murderer who was set free. Not true. Hi did kill Trayvon, but it wasn't murder, as his trial proved. Their next big case, Michael Brown, was the same.  All hype and no basis in reality. 

 

Instead of worrying about State violence against black people, they should worry about the biggest perpetrator of violence on African Americans- OTHER black people. 

I asked for empirical evidence. Please provide it…

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Further, their very mission statement is premised on a lie, that Trayvon Martin's killer was a murderer who was set free. Not true. Hi did kill Trayvon, but it wasn't murder, as his trial proved. Their next big case, Michael Brown, was the same.  All hype and no basis in reality. 

 

Instead of worrying about State violence against black people, they should worry about the biggest perpetrator of violence on African Americans- OTHER black people. 

So let’s forget State violence against Black people shall we?

[Hanaguma]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So let’s forget State violence against Black people shall we?

Of course not. But put it in perspective. According to the Washington Post’s database, polics killed  14 unarmed Black victims and 25 unarmed white victims in 2019.  The number of unarmed Black shooting victims is down 63% from 2015, when the database began. There are about 7,300 Black homicide victims a year. The 14 unarmed victims in fatal police shootings would comprise only 0.2% of that total.

 

That is what I mean by perspective.

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Of course not. But put it in perspective. According to the Washington Post’s database, polics killed  14 unarmed Black victims and 25 unarmed white victims in 2019.  The number of unarmed Black shooting victims is down 63% from 2015, when the database began. There are about 7,300 Black homicide victims a year. The 14 unarmed victims in fatal police shootings would comprise only 0.2% of that total.

 

That is what I mean by perspective.

But BLM are campaigning against police killing Black people.

 

In the context of that campaign the only data that matters is how many Black people the police kill.

 

Also note, it wasn’t until The Guardian newspaper and the BLM movement campaigns that US police forces started systematically recording the race of people killed by the police.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 8, 2022 by Chomper Higgot

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

So, they are campaigning against the killing of 14 unarmed black people by police. Yet the other 7,296 black people who were murdered? Meh.  Kind of tells you something about the organization, doesn't it?

Yes, it tells us something about their objectives.

 

Just like your posts tell us about your own.

[proton]

1 hour ago, candide said:

Floyd was served 4 years in prison for his offenses.

Quite, a nasty piece of work all round, turning his life around by overdosing on meth and fentanyl while committing fraud and not cooperating with the Police, what a hero!

[candide]

6 minutes ago, proton said:

Quite, a nasty piece of work all round, turning his life around by overdosing on meth and fentanyl while committing fraud and not cooperating with the Police, what a hero!

So apart from ranting, what do you suggest? That Chauvin should have been forgiven?

[Chomper Higgot]

19 minutes ago, proton said:

Quite, a nasty piece of work all round, turning his life around by overdosing on meth and fentanyl while committing fraud and not cooperating with the Police, what a hero!

And that’s all we might ever have been told about him, except for the fact someone video recorded his cold blooded murder by a ‘cop’.

So let’s all get outraged that the cold blooded murdering cop has been served Justice.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

7 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Sounds like a reasonable sentence. Chauvin was clearly out of his depth and worried about how to control a much larger, much stronger man who was obviously high on something. 

You need to re-watch the video.

 

If you struggle with that, refer to the jury findings.

[Scott]

A few off-topic posts and replies removed.  The topic is NOT about BLM. 

[Hanaguma]

18 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You need to re-watch the video.

 

If you struggle with that, refer to the jury findings.

I DID watch it. What part did I get wrong?