Popular Post Mark Nothing Posted July 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2022 A devinely created human immune system properly maintained by the user wallops this recommendation from the health ministry. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/11/2022 at 8:53 PM, snoop1130 said: Minister Anutin Charnvirakul said that during this upcoming long holiday, from Wednesday 13th to Sunday the 17th, there may be an increased risk of Covid-19 infections in many areas, therefore, the Ministry would like to encourage the public to get vaccinated at vaccination centers, Provincial Health Offices, and public hospitals nationwide before traveling. A tad late... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atpeace Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 8 hours ago, MrJ2U said: The article was about China's lockdown and new variant that has 20% of it's population in lockdown. "Shanghai fears a second lockdown as China battles BA.5 outbreaks" https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/07/11/shanghai-lockdown-china-covid-omicron/ Calm down and read your post I was replying to. Your use of pronouns and the last sentence is grammatically a mess("from China as there"). It is difficult to determine if you are referring to China or Isaan. No biggy, I get it now and agree with your post. My online clarity can also be lacking at times. "Hopefully they won't be using Sinovac for the poorer provinces in Issan. They seem better prepared than last year at least. They won't be getting as much free junk from China as there having a hell of a time with the newest variants.. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post atpeace Posted July 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2022 8 hours ago, MrJ2U said: Baloney. Off course no supporting article to go along with the usual anti vax garbage. I'm looking at the data this year and it "seems" to show at most 50% of deaths are vaccinated but since 90% are vaccinated this number isn't a reflection of the the vaccines effectiveness. Deaths per 100k of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated would be more relevant. Your anti-vax rant is unproductive and not true. Many people have solid reasons not to be vaccinated. I feel the data supports vaccination but I am open to being wrong. Time will tell and I feel the freedom of thought was the ultimate loser during the first 2 years of the pandemic. The tides are changing... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 37 minutes ago, atpeace said: I'm looking at the data this year and it "seems" to show at most 50% of deaths are vaccinated but since 90% are vaccinated this number isn't a reflection of the the vaccines effectiveness. Deaths per 100k of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated would be more relevant. Your anti-vax rant is unproductive and not true. Many people have solid reasons not to be vaccinated. I feel the data supports vaccination but I am open to being wrong. Time will tell and I feel the freedom of thought was the ultimate loser during the first 2 years of the pandemic. The tides are changing... Oh jeez, Hopefully you get your family vaccinated and don't put them in danger. Anti vaxer, ugh. Hopefully they insist on vaccines to get your Visa. I'm surprised they even let you enter Thailand. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 18 hours ago, KhonKaenLive said: In April and May of this year in the UK, 94% of deaths...jabbed. A manipulative statistic since over 75% are fully vaccinated ... it is like saying a high percentage with 2 arms died and blaming that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, atpeace said: Calm down and read your post I was replying to. Your use of pronouns and the last sentence is grammatically a mess("from China as there"). It is difficult to determine if you are referring to China or Isaan. No biggy, I get it now and agree with your post. My online clarity can also be lacking at times. "Hopefully they won't be using Sinovac for the poorer provinces in Issan. They seem better prepared than last year at least. They won't be getting as much free junk from China as there having a hell of a time with the newest variants.. " Read the forum rules: "Posts regarding spelling and grammar can derail a topic and can also appear intolerant and unhelpful." https://aseannow.com/terms/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 A range of misinformation and unsubstantiated posts and replies have been removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atpeace Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, MrJ2U said: Read the forum rules: "Posts regarding spelling and grammar can derail a topic and can also appear intolerant and unhelpful." https://aseannow.com/terms/ Just explaining that I misunderstood your post and why. Sorry, didn't know you would be offended. I even mentioned that I often make posts that are grammatically challenged. On top of that, I even told you I agreed with your point after I understood the intent. I just don't possess your anger at all that is outside my believes. I wonder how this type of attitude is good for your emotional well being. You make some good points in the process of being insulting. Drop the insults and more might listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) On 7/12/2022 at 7:14 AM, Flying Saucage said: Can you show me one serious peer reviewed article confirming this? One article not paid by big pharma, and not an article just published by mainstream media without scientific reference? You could take your pick of the following. Links to the published studies, with extracts of the findings. Quote In 13 U.S. jurisdictions, rates of COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations, and deaths were substantially higher in persons not fully vaccinated compared with those in fully vaccinated persons, similar to findings in other reports. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e1.htm Quote Covid-19 vaccines in the United States were highly effective against SARS-CoV-2 infection requiring hospitalization, ICU admission, or an emergency department or urgent care clinic visit. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110362 Quote These findings reaffirm the high protection of COVID-19 vaccines against moderate and severe COVID-19 resulting in ED, UC, and hospital visit https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e2.htm Quote Receiving 2 or 3 doses of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine was associated with a 90% reduction in risk for COVID-19–associated IMV or death. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7112e1.htm Quote COVID-19 vaccine efficacy or effectiveness against severe disease remained high, although it did decrease somewhat by 6 months after full vaccination. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)00152-0/fulltext And these were just a few of the studies I found with only a cursory Google search. There were a whole bunch more. Edited July 13, 2022 by GroveHillWanderer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, StealthComms said: You both confused This ain't vaccines but mRNA injections. Vaccines stop infections in first place. No, they don't. A vaccine is a medical product that exposes the body's immune system to an antigen from a disease-causing pathogen, provoking a protective immune response. That's it. No vaccine is 100% effective in preventing all infections. The best any of them manage is about 95% (most childhood vaccinations, for instance) but many are much lower than that. The yearly flu vaccines that many older people get for instance, are only about 30-60% effective in preventing infection. Quote In general, a vaccine effectiveness of ~30-60% has been estimated for the three different influenza A (H1N1, H3N2) and B strains. Influenza vaccine effectiveness This doesn't mean that flu vaccines are not vaccines - they are (the clue is in the name). Edited July 13, 2022 by GroveHillWanderer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Photoguy21 Posted July 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2022 20 hours ago, JayBird said: Sadly it is most likely to stay here. We could hope to do a 'Smallpox' thing and try to erradicate it, but given the hesitancy for many to accept vaccines these days, it could be problematic. Fortunately, we should be able to manage it with the same approach we take for flu shots. Just get your regular jabs which should contain the serum for whatever is floating around that season and you should be good to go ???? Let's enjoy the fact that we live in an age where medicine is able to keep up with the rate of introduction of new viruses and mutations. Obviously the vaccines are not really working as the Health Minister has had all the boosters but still gets it. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rattlesnake Posted July 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2022 20 hours ago, JayBird said: Sadly it is most likely to stay here. We could hope to do a 'Smallpox' thing and try to erradicate it, but given the hesitancy for many to accept vaccines these days, it could be problematic. Fortunately, we should be able to manage it with the same approach we take for flu shots. Just get your regular jabs which should contain the serum for whatever is floating around that season and you should be good to go ???? Let's enjoy the fact that we live in an age where medicine is able to keep up with the rate of introduction of new viruses and mutations. Unbelievable… Your blind faith in the pharmaceutical religion is truly astounding. A friendly reminder: https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/merck-manipulated-science-about-drug-vioxx 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Well, if there is any truth about what he said/did, please note the following. Anutin had two vaccinations and not less than four boosters just to come down with Covid-19. The last booster, by media dissemination, was administered to him without him wearing a mask. Everything else is up to you, what you believe and what you consider true/false and whatever is good for you, your health and the pharmaceutical industry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattlesnake Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 2 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said: You could take your pick of the following. Links to the published studies, with extracts of the findings. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e1.htm https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110362 https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e2.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7112e1.htm https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)00152-0/fulltext And these were just a few of the studies I found with only a cursory Google search. There were a whole bunch more. You were asked for studies with no financial ties to the pharmaceutical industry and you quote the CDC and The Lancet? ???? https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/28/world/europe/vaccine-secret-contracts-prices.html https://health.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/pharma/can-cdc-in-the-us-takings-millions-from-pharma-industry-be-unbiased/47357501 https://www.sciencealert.com/how-much-top-journal-editors-get-paid-by-big-pharma-corrupt 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairynuff Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 On 7/12/2022 at 3:47 AM, smedly said: Anutin - we are done with vaccines - we are done with masks we are done with covid ................there is no "New Normal" MOVE ON Speak for yourself. Anyone with a grain of common sense will get their next booster and carry on wearing a mask. Those in denial of reality could look at the UK for how not to behave 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairynuff Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 On 7/12/2022 at 7:14 AM, Flying Saucage said: Can you show me one serious peer reviewed article confirming this? One article not paid by big pharma, and not an article just published by mainstream media without scientific reference? Yeah you’re absolutely right. I get my advice from trump and it’s Clorox all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patanawet Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 On 7/12/2022 at 6:57 AM, vandeventer said: A friend of mine has had 7 vaccines for covid. Where is he? Home with covid. Who has ever said that it prevents you getting it? It's about the severity! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinot Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 On 7/12/2022 at 10:22 AM, FunkyDunky58 said: Sounding a bit like a lemming. There is a lot of evidence of high percentages of false positives, evidence of labs being incentivised to return positive results, evidence of hospitals being incentivised to diagnose cover even when its something totally different, and evidence of death and permanent ill effects from these vaccines. Always follow the money. Before you start calling other people ignorant please go and do some research and present FACTS. And that does not mean quoting CNN or MSNBC. There is no evidence for incentivizing to diagnose covid or evidence of death or permanent ill effects from vaccines. Follow the anti-vaxxers like this idiot to the grave. His "research" will put you 10 feet under. Death rates among Republicans (anti-vaxxers) were 10 times higher in the US. There are NO LEGITIMATE FACTS that prove that vaccines are anything but life savers. Thank Buddha we have the vaccines, our only weapon in a pandemic thats killed Six million worldwide. Jeesh...facts. Only what you hear on Fox right? Pathetic. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post BangkokHank Posted July 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2022 17 hours ago, Patanawet said: Who has ever said that it prevents you getting it? It's about the severity! Vaccines Stop the Transmission of COVID.mp4 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post berrec Posted July 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2022 FYI.................Yes unfortunately I have been vaxed! COVID-19 Jab Does Not Work Heres Why.pdf Brain Degenerating Diseases From COVID-19 Vac.pdf COVID Jab Is Far More Dangerous Than Advertised.pdf COVID-19 Vaccines Are They Gene Therapy.pdf Spike Remains in Body Affects DNA.pdf Big Mistake on COVID-19 Vaccine.pdf 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StealthComms Posted July 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, BangkokHank said: Vaccines Stop the Transmission of COVID.mp4 This is best video out there ???? And ppl still say who said it stops spread and other things 3 years later ???? I lost my hope Edited July 14, 2022 by StealthComms 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rattlesnake Posted July 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 hours ago, StealthComms said: This is best video out there ???? And ppl still say who said it stops spread and other things 3 years later ???? I lost my hope It's just denial at that point. Like people who got conned and just can't admit it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, rattlesnake said: It's just denial at that point. Like people who got conned and just can't admit it. Conned about what....? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiggley Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 WHY ??? He has had at least 4 and look at him now. sorry but all Bu.. sh.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinot Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 12:37 PM, berrec said: FYI.................Yes unfortunately I have been vaxed! COVID-19 Jab Does Not Work Heres Why.pdf 1.5 MB · 2 downloads Brain Degenerating Diseases From COVID-19 Vac.pdf 1.18 MB · 1 download COVID Jab Is Far More Dangerous Than Advertised.pdf 425.77 kB · 2 downloads COVID-19 Vaccines Are They Gene Therapy.pdf 515.6 kB · 1 download Spike Remains in Body Affects DNA.pdf 6.12 MB · 1 download Big Mistake on COVID-19 Vaccine.pdf 444.39 kB · 3 downloads Nonsesnse. Don't waste a moment on this anti-vax bologna. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Mark Mark Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 On 7/13/2022 at 5:04 AM, Patanawet said: Who has ever said that it prevents you getting it? It's about the severity! It was sold as a Preventative......come on man. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patanawet Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 On 7/19/2022 at 9:40 AM, Marky Mark Mark said: It was sold as a Preventative......come on man. Really? To you maybe, not to me --man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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