Popular Post JonnyF Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2022 Just now, candide said: And Trump would have raided Biden for which reason? Same reason Biden had Trump raided. To discredit him politically. 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Same reason Biden had Trump raided. To discredit him politically. Most of the discredit were self inflicted. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, JonnyF said: What documents? The ones they refuse to release because the lack of content is all a bit embarrassing? You seem sure of what’s in/not in documents you haven’t seen. Well of course you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Just now, Chomper Higgot said: You seem sure of what’s in/not in documents you haven’t seen. Well of course you are. I said there is no evidence yet. You said "What about the documents"? But you haven't seen them. Because they haven't been released. ???? So my point stands. At this point, there is no evidence for either the raid, or an indictment. There was a raid. That's it. Nothing else. Nada. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Yes I believe that everyone knows it. If Trump had Biden raided I am sure your perspective would change due to your extreme bias and partisan opinions. So you know it, but you defend it because you hate Trump. As a neutral I am fortunate that I am able to look at these things objectively and it is patently clear that this was done to discredit Trump and attempt to smear him before the next election. Holding that opinion does not mean I am claiming to be a "spokesperson for everybody". It means I believe people are being disingenuous because of their political bias. Mind reading and counterfactuals are the basis of your beliefs. And you're so neutral that you question why indictments haven't been issued 10 days after the raid. Even though that would be virtually impossible under the US legal system. The evidence of your neutrality keeps on becoming more and more impressive. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2022 Just now, placeholder said: Mind reading and counterfactuals are the basis of your beliefs. And you're so neutral that you question why indictments haven't been issued 10 days after the raid. Even though that would be virtually impossible under the US legal system. The evidence of your neutrality keeps on becoming more and more impressive. It's an opinion based on what we know so far. If you don't like people giving their opinions (unless they are 100% aligned with yours), then maybe forums are not for you? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, JonnyF said: I said there is no evidence yet. You said "What about the documents"? But you haven't seen them. Because they haven't been released. ???? So my point stands. At this point, there is no evidence for either the raid, or an indictment. There was a raid. That's it. Nothing else. Nada. The TC/SCI documents, recovered from Mar-a-Largo during the lawfully authorized, lawfully executed search. Next step, place the evidence before a Grand Jury, refer Fifth Amendment of the Constitution of the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, JonnyF said: What documents? The ones they refuse to release because the lack of content is all a bit embarrassing? Do you think its wise to reveal to the world the contents of US Top secret documents? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AndyFoxy Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: What’s Trump being an ex President got to do with judicial process? The FBI can search any private citizens home of they obtain a warrant to do so. Why should the FBI treat a former President any different. One law and nobody above it! Thanks for providing the reference to the warnings Trump and his Allie’s are handing out on ‘Truth Social’, they are exactly the reason why the identities of witnesses in the Affidavit must be kept secret. Can’t wait till Trump gets back in and they go after Obama (the worst President ever) and Biden (an idiot). Shackle them up and make them do the perp walk of shame. 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said: Can’t wait till Trump gets back in and they go after Obama (the worst President ever) and Biden (an idiot). Shackle them up and make them do the perp walk of shame. Well apart from that being an example of an overt desire to use the Justice system for political vengeance, what crimes do you believe former President Obama committed? Please note, I have not in asking you this question requested you provide evidence, I just want to know the extent of your delusions. Edited August 19, 2022 by Chomper Higgot 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 minute ago, JonnyF said: It's an opinion based on what we know so far. If you don't like people giving their opinions (unless they are 100% aligned with yours), then maybe forums are not for you? What evidence do you have that I don't like people giving their opinions. Actually, I love people giving their opinions. Especially 3 kinds: 1)the ones that offer avenues of thought that hadn't occurred to me 2)or offer information that was new to me 3)and the ones that are so riddled with unclear thinking and statements contrary to fact that they deserve pointed critiques. It's clear to me that the comments you offer in this forum generally fall under category #3. So, self-declared neutral observer, thanks for that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said: Can’t wait till Trump gets back in and they go after Obama (the worst President ever) and Biden (an idiot). Shackle them up and make them do the perp walk of shame. Crystal balling much? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFoxy Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Well apart from that being an example of an overt desire to use the Justice system for political vengeance, what crimes do you believe former President Obama committed? Please note, I have not in asking you this question requested you provide evidence, I just want to know the extent of your delusions. So without hearing what I have to say, you already have decided it is delusional. ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Berkshire Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said: Can’t wait till Trump gets back in and they go after Obama (the worst President ever) and Biden (an idiot). Shackle them up and make them do the perp walk of shame. 55555.....another right wing nutter. When Trump is indicted, I hope you will take it upon yourself to visit a FBI field office. Make sure to bring an AR-15 and a nail gun. I promise you will get their attention. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said: So without hearing what I have to say, you already have decided it is delusional. ???? It's not like you're a debutante here. To mix metaphors, you have a track record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said: So without hearing what I have to say, you already have decided it is delusional. ???? He didn't want you to embarrass yourself anymore as he knows you have no evidence to offer only delusional rants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFoxy Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Berkshire said: 55555.....another right wing nutter. When Trump is indicted, I hope you will take it upon yourself to visit a FBI field office. Make sure to bring an AR-15 and a nail gun. I promise you will get their attention. Snapper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said: So without hearing what I have to say, you already have decided it is delusional. ???? Your call to use the Justice system from r political vengeance is suggestive of irrationality. But go ahead, I’m all ears. What crimes do you believe former President Obama committed? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2022 Just now, placeholder said: What evidence do you have that I don't like people giving their opinions. Actually, I love people giving their opinions. Especially 3 kinds: 1)the ones that offer avenues of thought that hadn't occurred to me 2)or offer information that was new to me 3)and the ones that are so riddled with unclear thinking and statements contrary to fact that they deserve pointed critiques. It's clear to me that the comments you offer in this forum generally fall under category #3. So, self-declared neutral observer, thanks for that. I realize that my being neutral and still thinking this is politically motivated is problematic for you. If I were a Trump supporter you could write me off as a MAGA hat wearing redneck, probably like the guys who [cough] attacked Jussie Smollett ????. However, having someone who dislikes both Trump and Biden come to the conclusion that this is politically motivated does not allow you to do that. Hence the constant accusations that I am a Trump fan. Attempting to discredit my opinion by painting me as something I am not. Quite unseemly behaviour, but not particularly unusual for those on the extreme left. Since no evidence has been released, it would be very difficult for my statements to be contrary to fact, especially when they are presented as my opinions rather than anything that can be definitively proven (at this stage). 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AndyFoxy Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Berkshire said: 55555.....another right wing nutter. When Trump is indicted, I hope you will take it upon yourself to visit a FBI field office. Make sure to bring an AR-15 and a nail gun. I promise you will get their attention. Great to see you can find time away from CNN to post such nonsense. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said: Can’t wait till Trump gets back in and they go after Obama (the worst President ever) and Biden (an idiot). Shackle them up and make them do the perp walk of shame. If Trump is re-elected, I really hope he doesn't stoop to the levels we have seen recently. This incident has done enough to damage the reputation of the US. I would hope Trump could rise above that level, but given his nature I fear he may be tempted to use the same tactics that are currently being used against him. It might well end up as a race to the bottom. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2022 Just now, JonnyF said: I realize that my being neutral and still thinking this is politically motivated is problematic for you. If I were a Trump supporter you could write me off as a MAGA hat wearing redneck, probably like the guys who [cough] attacked Jussie Smollett ????. However, having someone who dislikes both Trump and Biden come to the conclusion that this is politically motivated does not allow you to do that. Hence the constant accusations that I am a Trump fan. Attempting to discredit my opinion by painting me as something I am not. Quite unseemly behaviour, but not particularly unusual for those on the extreme left. Since no evidence has been released, it would be very difficult for my statements to be contrary to fact, especially when they are presented as my opinions rather than anything that can be definitively proven (at this stage). I have really enjoyed your comments criticizing Trump and the rightwing when there was clear cause to do so. Or at least I might have, had you any semblance of the neutrality you so frequently claim. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AndyFoxy Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Your call to use the Justice system from r political vengeance is suggestive of irrationality. Then the fact you approve of the current use of the justice system for political vengeance is suggestive of your own irrationality. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Just now, JonnyF said: If Trump is re-elected, I really hope he doesn't stoop to the levels we have seen recently. This incident has done enough to damage the reputation of the US. I would hope Trump could rise above that level, but given his nature I fear he may be tempted to use the same tactics that are currently being used against him. It might well end up as a race to the bottom. So you missed Trump’s hand picked AG Barr using the Justice system to imprison Michael Cohen for exercising his First Amendment rights to author s book. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2022 Just now, AndyFoxy said: Then the fact you approve of the current use of the justice system for political vengeance is suggestive of your own irrationality. I can’t approve of something that is not a thing. Thete is zero evidence of political interference in the investigations into Trump’s alleged crimes. Well Apart that is from Trump’s ‘mobster threats’ to the AG and Lindsey Graham’s attempt to interfere with the investigations. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AndyFoxy Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: I can’t approve of something that is not a thing. Thete is zero evidence of political interference in the investigations into Trump’s alleged crimes. Well Apart that is from Trump’s ‘mobster threats’ to the AG and Lindsey Graham’s attempt to interfere with the investigations. Another conspiracy theorist I see 3 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2022 Just now, AndyFoxy said: Another conspiracy theorist I see Identify the conspiracy theory in my post. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, JonnyF said: I realize that my being neutral and still thinking this is politically motivated is problematic for you. If I were a Trump supporter you could write me off as a MAGA hat wearing redneck, probably like the guys who [cough] attacked Jussie Smollett ????. However, having someone who dislikes both Trump and Biden come to the conclusion that this is politically motivated does not allow you to do that. Hence the constant accusations that I am a Trump fan. Attempting to discredit my opinion by painting me as something I am not. Quite unseemly behaviour, but not particularly unusual for those on the extreme left. Since no evidence has been released, it would be very difficult for my statements to be contrary to fact, especially when they are presented as my opinions rather than anything that can be definitively proven (at this stage). You offered as evidence of the political motivation behind the case that no indictments of Trump had been yet forthcoming after the raid. Such a rapid issuance of indictments is virtually impossible under the US legal system. So yes, you have offered evidence that is contrary to fact. And it takes a certain degree of cluelessness or worse to believe that one's self-evaluation of one's stance as being neutral somehow qualifies as proof of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyinBangrak Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: So you missed Trump’s hand picked AG Barr using the Justice system to imprison Michael Cohen for exercising his First Amendment rights to author s book. More false assertions. Michael Cohen was NOT imprisoned for "exercising his First Amendment rights to author s book" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AndyFoxy Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Identify the conspiracy theory in my post. If you can’t see it, then I suggest a trip to get some new glasses. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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