Scott Posted August 30, 2022 Posted August 30, 2022 CNN)Joshua Pruitt, the Proud Boy who nearly came face-to-face with then-Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer during the attack of the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, was sentenced to four years and seven months behind bars for his role in obstructing the certification of the electoral college vote that day. "You were at the forefront of that mob," Judge Timothy Kelly said before handing down his sentence Monday, adding that Pruitt and the mob's actions that day "snapped our previously unbroken tradition of the peaceful transition of power." Pruitt, who pleaded guilty in early June to obstructing an official proceeding, was part of a Proud Boys group message where members discussed plans to march to the Capitol and use violence on January 6, according to prosecutors. https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/29/politics/joshua-pruitt-rioter-proud-boys-sentenced/index.html
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Posted August 30, 2022 I can’t get over what a wonderful year for Justice 2022 is turning out to be. 7
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Posted August 30, 2022 Seems rather harsh for a non violent offense. He did not attack any police, nor did he threaten anyone, nor did he say/do anything to Senator Schumer. 2 1 2
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Posted August 30, 2022 Another terrorist Proud boy behind bars, great work: 6
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Posted August 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Hanaguma said: Seems rather harsh for a non violent offense. He did not attack any police, nor did he threaten anyone, nor did he say/do anything to Senator Schumer. Attempting to stop the lawful and peaceful transfer of power is a rather serious matter. 3
ozimoron Posted August 30, 2022 Posted August 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Hanaguma said: Seems rather harsh for a non violent offense. He did not attack any police, nor did he threaten anyone, nor did he say/do anything to Senator Schumer. Not only did he plead guilty to a serious charge of obstructing senate proceedings but he caused Senator Schumer and others to reasonably fear for their lives, not just their safety. Schumer has access to intelligence and good reason to fear the mob. As an afterthought, his serious intention is bolstered by the 1776 tattoo on his knuckles. Maybe on his heart might have been a better pick? 1
Popular Post Jingthing Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Posted August 30, 2022 Good. One thing I still wonder about though. Why didn't they at least try to initially incarcerate ALL of the insurrectionist invaders as they left the building. They were ALL guilty of at least trespass and they would have speeded up the investigations and gotten more of the criminals that way. Dollars to doughnuts if the mob had been black people there would have been a massacre of black people. Too soft on the white nationalist domestic terrorists. . . 5 1
ozimoron Posted August 30, 2022 Posted August 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Good. One thing I still wonder about though. Why didn't they at least try to initially incarcerate ALL of the insurrectionist invaders as they left the building. They were ALL guilty of at least trespass and they would have speeded up the investments and gotten more of the criminals that way. Dollars to doughnuts if the mob had been black people there would have been a massacre of black people. Too soft on the white nationalist domestic terrorists. I wonder why they used a pistol to kill the first person who broke in instead of a machine gun which would have ended the riot then and there. The answer is in a lack of preparedness and planning. There was little to no coordination between the various security agencies and leadership was non existent. 1
Popular Post 2baht Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Posted August 30, 2022 How Proud are you now, Boy? 3 3
Popular Post LaosLover Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Posted August 30, 2022 I always think the term, Proud Boy, would be great to inspire toddlers to succeed at potty training. 3 6
Jingthing Posted August 30, 2022 Posted August 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, ozimoron said: I wonder why they used a pistol to kill the first person who broke in instead of a machine gun which would have ended the riot then and there. The answer is in a lack of preparedness and planning. There was little to no coordination between the various security agencies and leadership was non existent. Arresting them all on the spot would at least been a way to get all their IDs instead of taking years and no doubt megabucks to otherwise identify them.
Popular Post ozimoron Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: Arresting them all on the spot would at least been a way to get all their IDs instead of taking years a day no doubt megabucks to otherwise identify them. There were thousands of them outside, the police would have had to fight their way through them to arrest those who entered the building and undoubtedly lives would have been lost. They eventually got many of them anyway so I think they made the right decision. 3
Popular Post LaosLover Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Posted August 30, 2022 If I'm gearing up for some Lindsay Graham-urged "riots in the streets", mmmaybe I'm thinking twice. Remember, losers: Trump raised $100M off of your dumb you-know-whats. And then he helped out exactly zero with your legal bills. And he'd love to do it again. And the next go-round will have Biden calling in the National Guard in minute-1, not never like Trump. I completely look forward to "the civil war" fought by dopey, disorganized fatties against trained military with guns. Next time, it's long-sentence conspiracy charges. The "spontaneous uprising" goofball excuse has expired. 4 1
Popular Post LaosLover Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Posted August 30, 2022 ......Lindsay Graham would say that he wasn't urging rioting, he was only "predicting" rioting -but why do these "predictions" never emanate from the left (who should be fearing for their lives), only the right? Because: 1) The left laughs these hollow threats out of the room. 2 million+ Trump voters live within 30 miles of Mar A Lago. Why do only perhaps a hundred (at most) bother to show up to wave their dumb flags on his behalf outside of it? How reliable then are those do-nothing, stay at homers to therefore get involved in a shooting war? And why does Trump never -under any circumstances- deign to walk the 100 steps outside his gates to commune with them? I mean other than body odor concerns by the notorious germ-aphobe. 2) The right has nothing left but laughable, impotent veiled threats -like Trump's pathetic offer to "help" with all the "anger". All this he-man posturing (from Nancy Lindsay Graham, no less!!!) is useful only in shifting a few more so-called independents (means nervous leaning-republicans) into the Democrat column. 3) Where are they going to riot exactly? Not in any Blue City where the local pol's will be itching to be "tough on crime". That leaves only rioting in Red state hellholes like Wichita. I say please, have at it. 4 1
Hanaguma Posted August 30, 2022 Posted August 30, 2022 2 hours ago, ozimoron said: Not only did he plead guilty to a serious charge of obstructing senate proceedings but he caused Senator Schumer and others to reasonably fear for their lives, not just their safety. Schumer has access to intelligence and good reason to fear the mob. As an afterthought, his serious intention is bolstered by the 1776 tattoo on his knuckles. Maybe on his heart might have been a better pick? There was no evidence presented that he threatened the Senator, or even spoke to him. Not sure what relevance his tattoos show, perhaps just that he is a patriot. I have no trouble with him being charged and convicted but the sentence is quite high for a non violent crime. Higher even than some previous convictions of people who actually assaulted police officers. 1 1
placeholder Posted August 30, 2022 Posted August 30, 2022 54 minutes ago, LaosLover said: All this he-man posturing (from Nancy Lindsay Graham, no less!!!) is useful only in shifting a few more so-called independents (means nervous leaning-republicans) into the Democrat column. Can you lose the homophobia? 1
Chomper Higgot Posted August 30, 2022 Posted August 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: There was no evidence presented that he threatened the Senator, or even spoke to him. Not sure what relevance his tattoos show, perhaps just that he is a patriot. I have no trouble with him being charged and convicted but the sentence is quite high for a non violent crime. Higher even than some previous convictions of people who actually assaulted police officers. Perhaps those other sentences where too lenient. I’m looking forward to the sentencing of other law breakers who took part in, organized, funded or incited the J6 terrorist attack. 1
LaosLover Posted August 30, 2022 Posted August 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, placeholder said: Can you lose the homophobia? Point taken, fair enough. BUT effeminate, closeted gay men posturing as threateners are also the very definition of fair game.
ozimoron Posted August 30, 2022 Posted August 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: There was no evidence presented that he threatened the Senator, or even spoke to him. Not sure what relevance his tattoos show, perhaps just that he is a patriot. I have no trouble with him being charged and convicted but the sentence is quite high for a non violent crime. Higher even than some previous convictions of people who actually assaulted police officers. Schumer was not oblivious of the shouting nor what was being yelled. The guy was within feet of him and caused him to fear for his safety. it is not necessary to verbally abuse someone to be guilty of assault. One only has to put someone in a situation where they reasonably fear for their safety. That bar was passed. As for the sentence, there is a deterrent element in play I suspect. The judge obviously felt that forcible entry into the capitol building during an official proceeding and threatening elected officials was fairly egregious. 1
placeholder Posted August 30, 2022 Posted August 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, LaosLover said: Point taken, fair enough. BUT effeminate, closeted gay men posturing as threateners are also the very definition of fair game. Why?
LaosLover Posted August 30, 2022 Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, placeholder said: Why? Because laughing at hypocritical liars is always great fun. But like I said, point taken. I will be more careful with my speech here in the future. There are gay people here who I respect and I don't want to offend them. If I were a righty, I'd be wailing about being cancelled. Instead, I think you're a bit of a killjoy drip, but also in the right.
LarrySR Posted August 30, 2022 Posted August 30, 2022 6 hours ago, Hanaguma said: Seems rather harsh for a non violent offense. He did not attack any police, nor did he threaten anyone, nor did he say/do anything to Senator Schumer. Give this nincompoop a few a more years for believing Trump. LOL Seriously, if he had a brain, he'd take it out and play with it.
Popular Post Jingthing Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Posted August 30, 2022 2 hours ago, placeholder said: Can you lose the homophobia? Mr. Graham's voting record is extremely anti LGBT like so many republicans so if he is a closet case which it appears he may be, I would say mocking him is fair play. There is a dark history to this globally of closeted gay politicians being among the worst oppressors of gay people. 1 2
Hanaguma Posted August 30, 2022 Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, ozimoron said: Schumer was not oblivious of the shouting nor what was being yelled. The guy was within feet of him and caused him to fear for his safety. it is not necessary to verbally abuse someone to be guilty of assault. One only has to put someone in a situation where they reasonably fear for their safety. That bar was passed. As for the sentence, there is a deterrent element in play I suspect. The judge obviously felt that forcible entry into the capitol building during an official proceeding and threatening elected officials was fairly egregious. ...but others who both trespassed AND attacked the police got lesser sentences. Plus AFAIK no evidence that he forced his way into the building. He followed others, didn't assault anyone, never spoke a word to the Senator or his security, was never charged with assault, spent less than 40 minutes in the Capitol. That is more than a month of prison per minute of trespassing. 1 1
Chomper Higgot Posted August 30, 2022 Posted August 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: ...but others who both trespassed AND attacked the police got lesser sentences. Plus AFAIK no evidence that he forced his way into the building. He followed others, didn't assault anyone, never spoke a word to the Senator or his security, was never charged with assault, spent less than 40 minutes in the Capitol. That is more than a month of prison per minute of trespassing. At least one got shot dead. And that was by no means unjust.
placeholder Posted August 30, 2022 Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Hanaguma said: ...but others who both trespassed AND attacked the police got lesser sentences. Plus AFAIK no evidence that he forced his way into the building. He followed others, didn't assault anyone, never spoke a word to the Senator or his security, was never charged with assault, spent less than 40 minutes in the Capitol. That is more than a month of prison per minute of trespassing. Pruitt pleaded guilty in June to obstructing an official proceeding, and federal sentencing guidelines suggested 51 to 63 months in prison, in part because he has a lengthy criminal history, including assaulting police, cocaine possession and drunken driving convictions. https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/08/29/dc-proud-boy-pruitt-schumer-sentenced/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=wp_politics 2
LaosLover Posted August 30, 2022 Posted August 30, 2022 Can we all at least agree that with those eyebrows and that beard, this sad miscreant is basically dialing 1-800-NeverBoinkMe? 1
Popular Post LaosLover Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Posted August 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Hanaguma said: ...but others who both trespassed AND attacked the police got lesser sentences. Plus AFAIK no evidence that he forced his way into the building. He followed others, didn't assault anyone, never spoke a word to the Senator or his security, was never charged with assault, spent less than 40 minutes in the Capitol. That is more than a month of prison per minute of trespassing. If ONLY all sentences could be handed down along rigid arithmetic formulas exactly to your persnickety liking. But you commit crimes, and then you roll the dice with the judge. Them's the breaks. Anyone with the brains that god gave them knows that entering the capitol building in the middle of a riot is a recipe for legal problems. He didn't force his way in is the militia excuse equivalent of The Dog Ate My Homework. 5
Chomper Higgot Posted August 30, 2022 Posted August 30, 2022 21 minutes ago, LaosLover said: Can we all at least agree that with those eyebrows and that beard, this sad miscreant is basically dialing 1-800-NeverBoinkMe? All hope is not lost. Or at least, not where he’s going it’s not.
Popular Post Gaccha Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Posted August 30, 2022 For the benefit of non-Americans: After many months of attacks on the American Imperial Empire's ruling regime's buildings, costing billions and dozens of deaths, as well as the ruling regime's rapid acceptance of systemic racism and brutal oppression, even to the extent of senior regime members bending onto their knees to symbolise their failure, the knocking down of its sacred idols, as well as promises for the regime to defund its forces of oppression, a small yet brave group emerged in January 2020 to finally overthrow this regime and its parasitical elite class and their cosy sinecures. The underclass group bravely confronted this oppressive, militarised regime and moved into its symbolic power centre, obstructing the fake kabuki theatre of political change where one group of elite briefly swaps out for another group. This 'bastille day', so to speak, went ahead with little property damage and few casualties. Hark! The angels had been kind. Yet at that moment, victory was snatched from their arms, as those pretending to curse this oppressor class, turned on a dime, and confronted those who sought its end. For it turned out, that it was all just theatre, and those loud cries of racism and sexism and other such jibber jabber was intended to simply divide the masses and had simply got out of control. Years later, America remains submerged in the stench of an elite vampirically living off its underclass, and well-intentioned but low-information voters, who think justice has been achieved, celebrating the sanctity of their pitiful dying empire. 1 2 2
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