Royal gift or 'stolen' gem? Calls for UK to return 500 carat Great Star of Africa diamond

[Bluespunk]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

It wasn't illegal to invade and colonise Countries, so he was there legitimately 

Oh dear, that’s all you got…

Edited September 19, 2022 by Bluespunk

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Oh dear, that’s all you got…

The law is quite a big thing to have , beats an opinion 

[Bluespunk]

10 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The law is quite a big thing to have , beats an opinion 

LOL, that attempt at justifying the unjustifiable, and the crimes of colonial occupation are unjustifiable, is just sad.
 

Well as I previously said, the whys and wherefores of the crimes of colonial occupation are for the South African government to decide, including land redistribution, reparations and the return of stolen diamonds. 
 

Edited September 19, 2022 by Bluespunk

[Mac Mickmanus]

15 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

LOL, that attempt at justifying the unjustifiable, and the crimes of colonial occupation are unjustifiable, is just sad.
 

Well as I previously said, the whys and wherefores of the crimes of colonial occupation are for the South African government to decide, including land redistribution, reparations and the return of stolen diamonds. 
 

What law has been broken in the U.K acquiring that diamond ?

State which law has been broken 

[Bluespunk]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

What law has been broken in the U.K acquiring that diamond ?

State which law has been broken 

The arguments on the theft of the diamond are in the OP. 
 

I think the claim for its return is fair enough. 
 

It is for the South African majority elected government to decide on whether to pursue its return. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

The arguments on the theft of the diamond are in the OP. 
 

I think the claim for its return is fair enough. 
 

It is for the South African majority elected government to decide on whether to pursue its return. 

"I think its stolen so that means its stolen" wouldn't really stand up in a Court of law 

[Bluespunk]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

"I think its stolen so that means its stolen" wouldn't really stand up in a Court of law 

I never said that.

Edited September 19, 2022 by Bluespunk

[Mac Mickmanus]

9 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I never said that.

Yes you did 

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes you did 

Quote post where I used those words or withdraw that lie. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

21 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

The arguments on the theft of the diamond are in the OP. 
 

 

Here ^

[Bluespunk]

5 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Here ^

Those are not the words you said (and put in speech marks) I used.

 

Now get back on topic as you obviously cannot back up your deliberate mistruth. 

Edited September 19, 2022 by Bluespunk

[Mac Mickmanus]

7 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Those are not the words you said (and put in speech marks) I used.

 

Now get back on topic as you obviously cannot back up your deliberate mistruth. 

I was paraphrasing the link which you directed me to 

*

He told CNN that "colonial transactions are illegitimate and immoral."

"Our narrative is that the whole Transvaal and Union of South Africa governments and the concomitant mining syndicates were illegal,"*

 

   He doesn't actually explain why they were illegal , he just claims they were 

[Bluespunk]

8 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I was paraphrasing the link which you directed me to 

*

He told CNN that "colonial transactions are illegitimate and immoral."

"Our narrative is that the whole Transvaal and Union of South Africa governments and the concomitant mining syndicates were illegal,"*

 

   He doesn't actually explain why they were illegal , he just claims they were 

It wasn’t me who made that statement. However it certainly seems to be the basis for a claim. 

Yet again I say, It is up to the South African government to decide on the pursuit of the stolen diamond.

Edited September 19, 2022 by Bluespunk

[VillageIdiot]

21 hours ago, DaddyWarbucks said:

The colossal gems return would be a magnanimous gesture sure to please a majority of people worldwide.

But it begs the question: “To whom should be given?” 

South African leaders are notoriously corrupt and large urban areas are controlled by armed gangs.

The apocalypse foreseen by clear-sighted writers is here now.

That's the big question... "To whom should [it] be given?"

Any ideas?

   Only fully Woke responses will be seriously considered.

[MisterTee]

2 hours ago, VillageIdiot said:

That's the big question... "To whom should [it] be given?"

Any ideas?

   Only fully Woke responses will be seriously considered.

Cyril Ramaphosa's principle wife.

It could be worn at state functions.

[metisdead]

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[CharlieH]

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