MJCM Posted April 15, 2023 Author Share Posted April 15, 2023 21 minutes ago, 007 RED said: I thought that they were cancelling the FT discount. Not that I'm complaining. Next month it is then? I have no idea any more and now just take it as it comes I calculated our bill (for this period) to be a 731 THB one. With 152 units used that would be an average of around 4,81 THB per unit so the 599 THB bill came as a total surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted April 20, 2023 Author Share Posted April 20, 2023 I am totally confused what I am reading, the Ft charge will be increased to 0,98 Thb per unit from 0,93 Thb per unit but they are saying they are easing the electricity charges ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 1 hour ago, MJCM said: I am totally confused what I am reading, the Ft charge will be increased to 0,98 Thb per unit from 0,93 Thb per unit but they are saying they are easing the electricity charges ???? I think we will have to wait and see exactly what occurs. Ft on our bill delivered on the 18th is 0.9343 (156.96 on 168 units) but with the low-use discount of -112.63 which I assume we will lose next month ???? Total bill for 168 units = 676.46 Baht. The warm weather is pushing our daily energy use towards 40kWh ???? Luckily, it's also boosting the output of the solar ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted April 20, 2023 Author Share Posted April 20, 2023 20 minutes ago, Crossy said: I think we will have to wait and see exactly what occurs. Ft on our bill delivered on the 18th is 0.9343 And that is what is confusing me they are increasing the Ft to 0,98 (from 0,93) and same time they are easing the price.???? And no mention of discount for under 300 units We have to wait indeed what will happen because it as usual clear as mud (I am expecting the worst and thus it only can get better ???? ) Our solar (2 GTI’s) is not really coping we are now back in the 160 Unit a month territory, but due to health issues can’t get the real system 5kW Inverter and 10 Panels up and running unfortunately 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Encid Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 The news article you referenced @MJCM said that the government was going to reduce the average electricity charge of ฿5.24 per unit down to ฿4.77 per unit for May through August this year. I'm above average... My last 2 years PEA usage and costs: Can't wait to install a solar system... I'm really envious of you guys... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted April 20, 2023 Author Share Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Encid said: reduce the average electricity charge of ฿5.24 per unit down to ฿4.77 per unit for May through August this year. That is really strange because of even without the Ft discount of last month I am (I can tell you for sure tmrw as I am not at home and I have the figures in my pc) we are at 4.7ish Thb per unit on average already. that is with the 0.93 Ft charge. I must be missing something (or we are not average also ????) But again could be wrong, and will post an update tmrw. (But I know for a fact that we are NOT above the 5 THB per unit.) just thinking out loud, maybe they only mean the heavy (400> units) users as the scale is AFAIK 0 - 150 151 - 400 401> Edited April 20, 2023 by MJCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UWEB Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 Net Household Tariff increase from 4.72 to 4.77 THB from May to August while Business Tariff decrease from 5.33 to 4.77 THB for the same period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted April 21, 2023 Author Share Posted April 21, 2023 11 hours ago, UWEB said: Net Household Tariff increase from 4.72 to 4.77 THB That is then because of the increase of Ft from 0,93 to 0,98 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 Then, 4.77 to 4.70 : - I really have no idea what the rate will be for us at the next bill. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted April 21, 2023 Author Share Posted April 21, 2023 55555555555 As I said in the earlier post, clear as mud, and now expecting backflips after backflips. I will post our bill, when we get it very early morning on the 16th May. expected usage 160-170 units, price around 750 Thb (lets see if that comes true ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamb00ler Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) Our PEA bill is for a new house with 3 phase supply and a 10KW solar system. We are not yet moved in so load is minimal. The inverter software reported that our grid usage was 9.21 units (KWh) for the billing interval. I don't understand why our bill has what looks like readings from two different meters. Can anyone explain it? Edited April 22, 2023 by gamb00ler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 1 hour ago, gamb00ler said: I don't understand why our bill has what looks like readings from two different meters. Can anyone explain it? Is it possible you've changed from a "construction supply" to a permanent supply? Or maybe have a Time Of Use (TOU) meter? What number is in the "Type" box near the top of the bill? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamb00ler Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Crossy said: Is it possible you've changed from a "construction supply" to a permanent supply? Or maybe have a Time Of Use (TOU) meter? What number is in the "Type" box near the top of the bill? Thanks for the suggestions but we've been off the "construction supply" for a few months. The Type is 1125 which is the same as on the bill at our current rental house. The inverter reports that we do export a very small amount of power (.51 K0Wh) even though the export is supposed to be disabled. We do have a digital meter. Edited April 22, 2023 by gamb00ler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, gamb00ler said: Thanks for the suggestions but we've been off the "construction supply" for a few months. The Type is 1125 which is the same as on the bill at our current rental house. Yeah, 1125 is the standard domestic type. Could be they swapped the meter for some reason. I'd wait for the next bill and see what it looks like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamb00ler Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Crossy said: Yeah, 1125 is the standard domestic type. Could be they swapped the meter for some reason. I'd wait for the next bill and see what it looks like. This is the fourth bill to show the two different readings. In fact all the bills for this service have had two readings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Just now, gamb00ler said: This is the fourth bill to show the two different readings. In fact all the bills for this service have had two readings. Time to ask PEA methinks ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted April 22, 2023 Author Share Posted April 22, 2023 3 hours ago, gamb00ler said: We do have a digital meter. I guess that has something to do with it, and my guess it’s setup as ToU 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamb00ler Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, MJCM said: I guess that has something to do with it, and my guess it’s setup as ToU If we were on ToU I think our Type of service would not be 1125 and the two meter "readings" would be charged at different rates. N'est pas? PS: perhaps the meter is set up as ToU, but the PEA account is not. That may be possible, I guess. Edited April 23, 2023 by gamb00ler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Definitely time to ask PEA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamb00ler Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 yea... will call PEA on Monday when the son will be available for translation since he has better technical knowledge of such matters than my wife. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, gamb00ler said: yea... will call PEA on Monday when the son will be available for translation since he has better technical knowledge of such matters than my wife. Do let us know what transpires. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MJCM Posted April 23, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, gamb00ler said: If we were on ToU I think our Type of service would not be 1125 and the two meter "readings" would be charged at different rates. N'est pas? PS: perhaps the meter is set up as ToU, but the PEA account is not. That may be possible, I guess. Yep but how else can you explain it then? What is so strange about your bill is the 1,40 Units. Normally they would work with only round numbers. (and in my calculations I think they have discounted the 1,40 units) So leaves 3 options IMHO (of course this is guessing) 1- ToU 2- Feed-in Tariff 3- ??????? So if I have to choose then it's #1, but let us know what is the conclusion of the PEA 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Just to keep all the info in one place: - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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driver52 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 On 1/16/2023 at 12:26 PM, MJCM said: Don't forget I am talking about installing them some simple Plugin GTI's which GTI are you using out of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted April 27, 2023 Author Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 hour ago, driver52 said: which GTI are you using out of interest? https://www.lazada.co.th/products/grid-tie-inverter-scl-fti-d1000b-1000vafti-d600b-600va-monitor-pure-sine-i768508173-s12199051309.html? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driver52 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, MJCM said: https://www.lazada.co.th/products/grid-tie-inverter-scl-fti-d1000b-1000vafti-d600b-600va-monitor-pure-sine-i768508173-s12199051309.html? interesting and very cheap thanks......in this situation is VA the same as watts? ie 600VA accepts up to 600 watts of panels? thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted April 27, 2023 Author Share Posted April 27, 2023 57 minutes ago, driver52 said: interesting and very cheap thanks......in this situation is VA the same as watts? ie 600VA accepts up to 600 watts of panels? thanks again! No idea, I think @Crossy better answer that but I have connected 3 x 330W panels to a 1000VA one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 hour ago, driver52 said: interesting and very cheap thanks......in this situation is VA the same as watts? ie 600VA accepts up to 600 watts of panels? thanks again! Generally yes, most inverters allow a degree of over-panelling provided you never exceed the maximum input voltage (Voc of your panels). A 600W/VA inverter would likely be OK with 700W or so of panels. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driver52 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, MJCM said: No idea, I think @Crossy better answer that but I have connected 3 x 330W panels to a 1000VA one superb, even with those panels at what 3800baht now, and the 1000VA at 3650......that's what 15k baht plus a few brackets and switches etc that's less than £400 in uk money for a 1kw of power!!! I remember a mate of mine years ago paying like 14 grand for a 4kw system ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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