Thaksin tweets his sorrow at NE massacre - calls for urgent government action against drugs

[webfact]

Sanook Thai Caption: Urgent action required on drugs

 

Former Thai prime minister and fugitive Thaksin Shinawatra tweeted his sorrow concerning yesterday's shooting and stabbing incident in the NE of Thailand when two dozen young children were killed among 38 people.

 

Thaksin said that the shooting at the pre-school in Nong Bua Lamphu province was such a sad event that should not have happened in Thailand.

 

He condemned the brutality of the attack and expressed his sincere condolences to the relatives of the victims.

 

He called on the government to take decisive action against drugs especially yaba saying that enough was enough.

 

During Thaksin's time there was a so-called "war against drugs", observed Sanook.

 

Narcotics Control Board data between 2002 and 2004 showed that during his tenure as PM drugs cases fell from 200,000 to 35,000.

 

But in 2005 cases doubled and in 2006 increased slightly again.

 

Thaksin's controversial drugs policy led to claims that as many as 2,500 people were summarily executed by security forces, notes ASEAN NOW, in what became known as 'judicial killings'.  

 

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[2baht]

Says [Thaksin] whose crackdown on drugs resulted in the deaths of around 2500 people, many of whom were innocent! Yeah right

Edited October 7, 2022 by onthedarkside
trolling name calling removed

[bobbin]

While I have always applauded the 30 Baht Medical program he introduced, as it was truly revolutionary for low-income Thai people, this man has absolutely zero credibility when it comes to drugs..

 

State encouraged extra-judicial executions given wide publicity.. Pretty sure that Duterte was influenced by that program. Thai people tolerated it for a few months and then the public outcry put paid to that literally murderous policy.

 

Yesterday's man.

[MrMojoRisin]

5 hours ago, 2baht said:

Says [Thaksin]  whose crackdown on drugs resulted in the deaths of around 2500 people, many of whom were innocent! Yeah right

Was it Thaksin's war on drugs?

How many extra judicial killings were there?

 

How interesting that the above article is cautious in their wording...

 

Thaksin's controversial drugs policy led to claims that as many as 2,500 people were summarily executed by security forces

 

Surely if 2500 extra judicial killings really took place the press would have no concerns in stating the death toll without equivocation.

 

If one has to resort to lies to justify their political beliefs, then perhaps those beliefs aren't all that great.

[MrMojoRisin]

4 hours ago, bobbin said:

While I have always applauded the 30 Baht Medical program he introduced, as it was truly revolutionary for low-income Thai people, this man has absolutely zero credibility when it comes to drugs..

 

State encouraged extra-judicial executions given wide publicity.. Pretty sure that Duterte was influenced by that program. Thai people tolerated it for a few months and then the public outcry put paid to that literally murderous policy.

 

Yesterday's man.

You could not be more wrong.

 

Support for the "drug war" from the Thai people was, and remained, almost unanimous throughout the period.

 

From the HRW report:

 

 ...supported the campaign; some surveys showed support of 97.4%.

 

Edited October 7, 2022 by onthedarkside
flame comment removed

[hansnl]

Like killing a cool 2000 so-called drug users?

[josephbloggs]

26 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Was it Thaksin's war on drugs?

How many extra judicial killings were there?

 

How interesting that the above article is cautious in their wording...

 

Thaksin's controversial drugs policy led to claims that as many as 2,500 people were summarily executed by security forces

 

Surely if 2500 extra judicial killings really took place the press would have no concerns in stating the death toll without equivocation.

So you're saying it didn't happen then?  Or maybe you subscribe to Tony's pathetic "It's not the police, it is drug dealers turning on one another" theory?   Wait, I think you're really saying it didn't happen....

 

Quote

If one has to resort to lies to justify their political beliefs, then perhaps those beliefs aren't all that great.

Can you read your own sentence out loud please.

Edited October 7, 2022 by josephbloggs

[Mac Mickmanus]

5 hours ago, 2baht said:

Says [Thaksin] whose crackdown on drugs resulted in the deaths of around 2500 people, many of whom were innocent! Yeah right

Really should have been 2501 with the shooter being on that list 

[Orinoco]

Asean Now's Poster boy,  never misses an opportunity.

 

 

[Puwa]

 

 

http://www.humanrights.asia/resources/journals-magazines/article2/special-report-extrajudicial-killings-of-alleged-drug-dealers-in-thailand/a-chronology-of-thailands-war-on-drugs/

 

 

[peter zwart]

How cheap to use such terrible events for political gain. The man has done with me on this one. Did he also do that when people were being slaughtered by drunken / drugs freaks during his premiership?
 

Edited October 7, 2022 by peter zwart

[MrJ2U]

Sounds good.

 

Our village is littered with drug addicts. 

[OneMoreFarang]

And obviously Thailand should arrest all criminals... 

[onthedarkside]

A trolling name calling reference, a flame toward another member, and an ensuing reply have been removed.

 

[monkfish]

5 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Was it Thaksin's war on drugs?

How many extra judicial killings were there?

 

How interesting that the above article is cautious in their wording...

 

Thaksin's controversial drugs policy led to claims that as many as 2,500 people were summarily executed by security forces

 

Surely if 2500 extra judicial killings really took place the press would have no concerns in stating the death toll without equivocation.

 

If one has to resort to lies to justify their political beliefs, then perhaps those beliefs aren't all that great.

I believe 2500 people were killed in Thailand during a 3 month period during the war on drugs which was higher than usual I think about double. The Press I think AFP then claimed they were extra judicial killings but hey had no evidence and later retracted their original article. Many Human Rights organizations condemned The War On Drugs based on the AFP article but never retracted their claims after AFP retracted their own article.

[ericthai]

5 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Was it Thaksin's war on drugs?

How many extra judicial killings were there?

 

How interesting that the above article is cautious in their wording...

 

Thaksin's controversial drugs policy led to claims that as many as 2,500 people were summarily executed by security forces

 

Surely if 2500 extra judicial killings really took place the press would have no concerns in stating the death toll without equivocation.

 

If one has to resort to lies to justify their political beliefs, then perhaps those beliefs aren't all that great.

The killings really took place and it was in the news at the time.  

[Slip]

4 minutes ago, ericthai said:

The killings really took place and it was in the news at the time.  

I remember it well.  Shockingly awful.  It seems we have a revisionist here.

[josephbloggs]

47 minutes ago, ericthai said:

The killings really took place and it was in the news at the time.  

Yes they did, and yes it was, and I personally know two innocent victims.  It was an awful period in his "leadership".  And he is using this terrible tragedy for political gain which is utterly immoral and shameful.  I am losing more and more respect for this site each and every day they publish his disgusting self serving BS.......which is pretty much daily now.

Edited October 7, 2022 by josephbloggs

[Gottfrid]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

Former Thai prime minister and fugitive Thaksin Shinawatra

Totally wrong! This man´s name is Tony Woodsome. Have to thank him for his condolences, though.

[soi3eddie]

10 hours ago, 2baht said:

Says [Thaksin] whose crackdown on drugs resulted in the deaths of around 2500 people, many of whom were innocent! Yeah right

Happened in my ex-wife's village too. Strange times then. More than a few. Nakhon Si Thammarat. 

Edited October 7, 2022 by soi3eddie

[MrMojoRisin]

2 hours ago, monkfish said:

I believe 2500 people were killed in Thailand during a 3 month period during the war on drugs which was higher than usual I think about double. The Press I think AFP then claimed they were extra judicial killings but hey had no evidence and later retracted their original article. Many Human Rights organizations condemned The War On Drugs based on the AFP article but never retracted their claims after AFP retracted their own article.

Correct. The Bangkokpundit did a very thorough article detailing the failures of the press at the time, in particular the origins of the 2500 figure and the mistranslation of extra judicial. 
 

Unsurprisingly, those here obsessed with Thaksin never let the facts get in the way of a bit of righteous chest thumping, after all, it is very hard to publicly support anti democratic semi-fascism without a (manufactured) devil to shift the blame onto for what are plainly abhorrent views.

[MrMojoRisin]

2 hours ago, Slip said:

I remember it well.  Shockingly awful.  It seems we have a revisionist here.

History, is written by the victors.
 

The Generals have a vested interest in demonising Thaksin and nothing to gain from truthfulness.
 

Once democracy is restored, the truth about a great many goings on in the kingdom will be revealed, at which point I expect there’ll be a great many here revising their post histories. ????

 

 

[MrMojoRisin]

2 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

So now you are saying it did happen??  Make your mind up.

And I have no idea where you are going with this quote, nor do I want to get in to it.  It does not detract from Thaksin's murderous, inhumane killing spree.  

Instead of playing games - first of all you said it didn't happen, now you seem to be saying it did - would you care to spell out your position without riddles?  Say it clearly, it will make this discussion much easier.

Monkfish is correct, you are not.

[couchpotato]

5 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

History, is written by the victors.
 

The Generals have a vested interest in demonising Thaksin and nothing to gain from truthfulness.
 

Once democracy is restored, the truth about a great many goings on in the kingdom will be revealed, at which point I expect there’ll be a great many here revising their post histories. ????

 

 

And you will be the one to reveal these goings on/conspiracies..we will all be waiting for your posts, of course once democracy is restored.????

[MrMojoRisin]

17 minutes ago, couchpotato said:

And you will be the one to reveal these goings on/conspiracies..we will all be waiting for your posts, of course once democracy is restored.????

No, not I …the democratically elected government will expose the misdeeds of the unelected regimes and their lackeys.

 

You, however, I suspect will more than likely be forever banging on about Thaksin - facts be damned.

[hotchilli]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

Thaksin said that the shooting at the pre-school in Nong Bua Lamphu province was such a sad event that should not have happened in Thailand.

Blame the regimes which has let down the people for decades.

Thailand has become a mess.

[Puwa]

9 hours ago, monkfish said:

I believe 2500 people were killed in Thailand during a 3 month period during the war on drugs which was higher than usual I think about double. The Press I think AFP then claimed they were extra judicial killings but hey had no evidence and later retracted their original article. Many Human Rights organizations condemned The War On Drugs based on the AFP article but never retracted their claims after AFP retracted their own article.

If you read the link posted above you will learn much more about what happened, with footnotes and citations. 

[MrMojoRisin]

46 minutes ago, Puwa said:

If you read the link posted above you will learn much more about what happened, with footnotes and citations. 

The article in the link states “ …left nearly 2000 people dead…”

 

So we’ve already dropped the death toll by 500?

 

Hmmm……

 

500 seems to be quite a high number of mistaken deaths, don’t you think?

 

How / why do you think such an egregious error has been made?

[daveAustin]

16 hours ago, hansnl said:

Like killing a cool 2000 so-called drug users?

Pushers!

 

Politics aside (zzzzzzz), can the bloke not express sorrow for this tragic moment without people jumping all over it? Have a good look at yourselves.

[steven100]

16 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

Sounds good.

 

Our village is littered with drug addicts. 

yes ......  at least there was something good being done during his tenure.  

Society has no place for drug addicts.   

Everyone knows right from wrong .....    and they elected to choose wrong which is their own stupidity.