skippybangkok Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 BMI 30+ and eating way too much sugary stuff, my last blood sugar measurement was 117 on the 120 = Diabetes scale. A worry for many reasons... Started immediately on Intermittent Fasting (IF) - 8 hours eat what I want, but a lot less sweet stuff, 16 hours only water or black coffee. Weight dropped quick, but strangely Blood Sugar measurements taken over the last week using the same machine / method has been 88, 90 and today 77 which is staggering. Is this the real situation now, or is it just low cause I take the reading before breakfast and I am still pre-diabetic ? p.s. - I find IF quite easy, can still eat relatively normally, just have to wait a bit longer in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
degrub Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 I think you are getting an indication of “fasting” blood sugar levels. Work with a doctor and get an sugar challenge test and an “AC7 “ test i think it is called. The challenge test will give you and the doctor an indication of how your body is responding to sudden high blood sugar and the AC7 will indicate long term control of blood sugar. bravo on dropping the weight. Every bit helps and excess mass seems to result in several metabolic diseases. Keep it up and it will become habit and life changing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Presumably you are eating a lot of fatty junk, drastically cut down on that, sugar\carbs isn't the enemy on their own, only when combined with fatty junk, cakes, chips, pastries, ice cream, chocolate etc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Cut sugar you lose more weight. I fast 20 hours most days. Did 48 hrs the other day. Weight is dropping off. Used to eat a dozen icecreams a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) Any Meat and eggs plus rice or noodles Drinks low sugar unless walk a lot 2 beers a week 4 hour eating window. Supplement with a sodium/magnesium/potassium powder Works well Last 5 mins before sleep input your goal weight into sc mind present tense - eg "i enjoy being 80kgs, im fit and strong, i can walk all day so easy" - do that for 21 days. Edited October 11, 2022 by Sparktrader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etaoin Shrdlu Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Was the reading of 117 taken in the morning after fasting overnight? If so, possibly pre-diabetes. Have an HbA1c test and see if your long-term glucose levels are within acceptable levels. Also take a glucose challenge test to see if your blood glucose levels spike. If you discover Type 2 early and change diet and lifestyle, Type 2 can be reversed. Even if it is too late to be reversed, it can be managed to keep it from progressing rapidly and thus delay the very serious effects of this disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Fugitive Posted October 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said: fatty junk, cakes, chips, pastries, ice cream, chocolate etc Everything that makes life worth living! Plus tea, coffee, wine and lager maybe. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andre0720 Posted October 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2022 Stay away from refined sugar, not just cutting down. This means no more Thai food, as all Thai food contains some 20% added refined sugar, granular, or from added commercial sauces. Stay away from it... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fugitive Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Andre0720 said: Stay away from refined sugar, not just cutting down. This means no more Thai food, as all Thai food contains some 20% added refined sugar, granular, or from added commercial sauces. Stay away from it... Can't understand my Mrs. Whenever we go to a noodle restaurant she puts at least two spoonfulls of sugar in my bowl. I tell her I neither want nor need it but she persists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippybangkok Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 Thanks for all the advice. Insightful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sparktrader Posted October 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, The Fugitive said: Can't understand my Mrs. Whenever we go to a noodle restaurant she puts at least two spoonfulls of sugar in my bowl. I tell her I neither want nor need it but she persists. Man up, say no 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippybangkok Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said: Was the reading of 117 taken in the morning after fasting overnight? If so, possibly pre-diabetes. Have an HbA1c test and see if your long-term glucose levels are within acceptable levels. Also take a glucose challenge test to see if your blood glucose levels spike. If you discover Type 2 early and change diet and lifestyle, Type 2 can be reversed. Even if it is too late to be reversed, it can be managed to keep it from progressing rapidly and thus delay the very serious effects of this disease. yes. normally about 104, but I was really loading up on sweets the week prior. but now 77 - also prior to eating. But I fast 16 hours now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 13 minutes ago, The Fugitive said: Everything that makes life worth living! Plus tea, coffee, wine and lager maybe. No future in junk food 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Bruce Lipton on youtube. Look at his stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 39 minutes ago, The Fugitive said: Everything that makes life worth living! Plus tea, coffee, wine and lager maybe. Yeah, just limit it to once a week junk, works well, people need discipline or they get fat then sick eventually 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Sparktrader said: Cut sugar you lose more weight. I fast 20 hours most days. Did 48 hrs the other day. Weight is dropping off. Used to eat a dozen icecreams a week. Sugar gets the blame as usual but ice cream classic fatty junk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Havent had icecream or chocolate or chips in 4 weeks. Dont miss it. Just put a new program into sc mind. I have the odd coke thats it. Had 2 beers in 3 weeks. Dont miss it either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said: Sugar gets the blame as usual but ice cream classic fatty junk Sugar in ice cream is what makes you fat. Chilli sauce is high sugar. You can eat cheese and lose weight. Ive done it. Fat is essential. Sugar isnt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 31 minutes ago, skippybangkok said: yes. normally about 104, but I was really loading up on sweets the week prior. but now 77 - also prior to eating. But I fast 16 hours now Test 2 to 3 hours after a meal for a true reading as to how your body is working as far as the pancreas is concerned. As a diabetic, my readings upon waking are between 90 and 105, after a meal they sit between 120 and 130. 2 hours prior to the next meal I test again and generally back in the 90's. 90 day average for myself is 97, and my A1C is 5.5. As a diabetic, exercise and diet as well as the few meds I take for it like Metformin and Jardiance keep me fairly level, but do stay away from too many carbohydrates and those sugars..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Sugar in ice cream is what makes you fat. Chilli sauce is high sugar. You can eat cheese and lose weight. Ive done it. Fat is essential. Sugar isnt. 555 ok carry on, but I don't take any nutrition advice from overweight people 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: 555 ok carry on, but I don't take any nutrition advice from overweight people 2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: 555 ok carry on, but I don't take any nutrition advice from overweight people Common knowledge these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Sheryl Posted October 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2022 BS between 70-90 after 16 hours fasting is to be expected. HBac1 is a much better indicator than fasting blood sugar, especislly on a diet like yours, as it captures your overall blood sugar over time including non-fasting periods. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted October 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2022 Have you considered talking to a doctor? You know, they studied humans and are generally known to give medical advice. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1FinickyOne Posted October 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, The Fugitive said: Can't understand my Mrs. Whenever we go to a noodle restaurant she puts at least two spoonfulls of sugar in my bowl. I tell her I neither want nor need it but she persists. sounds like she has a death wish - - - but maybe not for herself. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Fugitive Posted October 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said: sounds like she has a death wish - - - but maybe not for herself. Never a truer word........On 03 October she took out Life Insurance on (for) me. No pay out in first 2 years. Refunded in full plus bonus if I survive the 20 year term. I'm now very determined to do just that! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted October 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, The Fugitive said: Can't understand my Mrs. Whenever we go to a noodle restaurant she puts at least two spoonfulls of sugar in my bowl. I tell her I neither want nor need it but she persists. They've been healthy and slim for generations on rice and sugar, it's ok, now getting fatter with western fatty junk food 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Every time I see the weight watchers threads, I kind of wonder why I am so lucky to enjoy all the stuff others seek to deny themselves,???????????? Then I consider how active I am for my age, with the understanding that if my weight creeps up I have luxury of going a week without and everything is ok again ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, 473geo said: Every time I see the weight watchers threads, I kind of wonder why I am so lucky to enjoy all the stuff others seek to deny themselves,???????????? Then I consider how active I am for my age, with the understanding that if my weight creeps up I have luxury of going a week without and everything is ok again ???? genetics.. lucky indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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