Many Republicans Want Trump Convicted and 'Out of Their Way': Attorney

[Scott]

Former President Donald Trump's midterm failures may have eroded the Republican support he was counting on to avoid a criminal conviction, according to one attorney.

 

Trump has long been reported to be planning an early 2024 presidential campaign announcement as a way to stave off potential prosecution from the numerous investigations mounting against him. His hope had purportedly been to ride a wave of midterm GOP success into the announcement, but with Democrats posting historically strong results over the last week, Trump's future as a Republican figurehead and his 2024 candidacy have been cast into doubt.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/many-republicans-want-trump-convicted-out-their-way-attorney-1759153

[HappyExpat57]

How many elections must the Republicans lose before they kick this albatross to the curb?

[JohnOFphon]

String him up!

[ThailandRyan]

So many Republicans want him gone.....tragedy is that Trumpism will stay around...so much hatred for the Democrats and many still espousing how the election was stolen.....even talk now of Nevada finding votes to steal the seat.

[OneMoreFarang]

I hope he destroys the GOP. They deserve it after their spineless behavior for all these years.

They had two chances to impeach him and get rid of him for good reasons. In both cases they somehow thought it is more important to lie for their leader instead of being truthful and doing their best for their country. 

 

"Upon taking office, senators-elect must swear or affirm that they will "support and defend the Constitution." The president of the Senate or a surrogate administers the oath to newly elected or re-elected senators. The oath is required by the Constitution; the wording is prescribed by law."

https://www.senate.gov/reference/reference_index_subjects/Oath_vrd.htm

 

[Berkshire]

A Trump indictment/conviction may be better for the Reps than the Dems. 

 

1.  It will get Trump out of their lives.

2. They can blame the Dems for "political persecution," a signal to the Trump base that they still support him....even though they don't. 

[ozimoron]

2 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

How many elections must the Republicans lose before they kick this albatross to the curb?

I think the number might be 4. Three elections lost so far.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, JohnOFphon said:

String him up!

Thank you for your well reasoned and entirely relevant contribution to the discussion.

 

As for the topic, I don't want him to be able to create even more of a circus than has unfortunately been created by the Dems desire to convict him of something, anything at all. I do think he should be "convinced" to go somewhere and enjoy his retirement with his family.

 

Put him on trial and reap the publicity he will garner.

 

Edit.

It just occurred to me that Biden may relish the circus of a Trump trial as it will take all the attention off the disaster he is, IMO, presiding over.

Edited November 14, 2022 by thaibeachlovers

[thaibeachlovers]

22 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

A Trump indictment/conviction may be better for the Reps than the Dems. 

 

1.  It will get Trump out of their lives.

2. They can blame the Dems for "political persecution," a signal to the Trump base that they still support him....even though they don't. 

Well said. The Dems should be careful of what they wish for. Make him the underdog being persecuted bu a vindictive Democrat party and he might use that to keep on keeping on.

[ozimoron]

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Thank you for your well reasoned and entirely relevant contribution to the discussion.

 

As for the topic, I don't want him to be able to create even more of a circus than has unfortunately been created by the Dems desire to convict him of something, anything at all. I do think he should be "convinced" to go somewhere and enjoy his retirement with his family.

 

Put him on trial and reap the publicity he will garner.

 

Edit.

It just occurred to me that Biden may relish the circus of a Trump trial as it will take all the attention off the disaster he is, IMO, presiding over.

The irony here is "Hang Pence" and "lock her up!".

[thaibeachlovers]

16 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

The irony here is "Hang Pence" and "lock her up!".

I never said hang Pence, and IMO she should have been locked up but Trump gave her a pass after he got elected. IMO a mistake.

[Eric Loh]

10 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Well said. The Dems should be careful of what they wish for. Make him the underdog being persecuted bu a vindictive Democrat party and he might use that to keep on keeping on.

Still singing from the old song sheet. Lots of bravado from the right after the Marlago search that there will be big blowback in the midterm election. Surely by now you should contemplate not to use that dross again. 

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1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I never said hang Pence, and IMO she should have been locked up but Trump gave her a pass after he got elected. IMO a mistake.

Trump gave her a pass = no case.

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I never said hang Pence, and IMO she should have been locked up but Trump gave her a pass after he got elected. IMO a mistake.

Trump tried and has continued to try to get her charged. He never gave her a pass and she has never been indicted for any crimes. Her email server issues pale into insignificance compared to Trump's insiders' use of private email and burner phones.

Edited November 14, 2022 by ozimoron

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27 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Thank you for your well reasoned and entirely relevant contribution to the discussion.

 

As for the topic, I don't want him to be able to create even more of a circus than has unfortunately been created by the Dems desire to convict him of something, anything at all. I do think he should be "convinced" to go somewhere and enjoy his retirement with his family.

 

Put him on trial and reap the publicity he will garner.

 

Edit.

It just occurred to me that Biden may relish the circus of a Trump trial as it will take all the attention off the disaster he is, IMO, presiding over.

So much for your prediction that if the Republicans take the House, there will be no prosecution. That never made sense in the first place.

[ThailandRyan]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I never said hang Pence, and IMO she should have been locked up but Trump gave her a pass after he got elected. IMO a mistake.

Trump said the phrase chanted "Hang Pence"  by the Jan 6th mob was probably right and he deserved them.  No he did not give Hilary a pass....you still hang onto falsehoods.

[ozimoron]

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I never said hang Pence, and IMO she should have been locked up but Trump gave her a pass after he got elected. IMO a mistake.

Evidence in just now that Trump remains as vindictive as ever, obsessed by revenge against his enemies.

 

Gen. John Kelly confirms Trump wanted IRS to audit his foes or have the DOJ investigate them

 

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-ordered-investigations-against-foes/

 

[ThailandRyan]

On 11/14/2022 at 10:34 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

 

Your defecting as usual and still clutching to the tired old rhetoric which has been proven false, much like the Election was stolen echoed by the MAGA crowd.

Edited November 16, 2022 by onthedarkside
quote of removed comment removed

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

Evidence in just now that Trump remains as vindictive as ever, obsessed by revenge against his enemies.

 

Gen. John Kelly confirms Trump wanted IRS to audit his foes or have the DOJ investigate them

 

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-ordered-investigations-against-foes/

 

Trump hasn't been president for 2 years so that is hardly relevant to now. Kelly has no reason to cover for Trump, given his exit from the White House.

[ThailandRyan]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

Trump hasn't been president for 2 years so that is hardly relevant to now. Kelly has no reason to cover for Trump, given his exit from the White House.

It just helps kill Trumps momentum he thinks he is building for a new run at office. More fuel to the fire to show Trumps lack of respect for others.

[ThailandRyan]

Pence is now railing on Trump for his Jan 6th actions.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/13/politics/pence-trump-january-6-tweet/index.html

[ozimoron]

On 11/14/2022 at 11:27 AM, ThailandRyan said:

Pence is now railing on Trump for his Jan 6th actions.

 

The collective yawning can be heard across the Atlantic.

 

.. meaning that the time to do it was Jan 7 last year, not now.

[Lacessit]

The Republicans are between a rock and a hard place. Support Trump, they will lose yet again. The mid-terms proved that. Oppose him, he will destroy the GOP out of spite. He adds an extra dimension to vindictive.

Their best hope is for him to be convicted.

For all his faults, Biden represents normalcy to the majority of voters. Trump is a return to chaos.

[Woof999]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

circus than has unfortunately been created by the Dems desire to convict him of something, anything at all.

Wasn't the circus created by Trump's own actions? You still seem to be in support of him. Is that the case?

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

The Republicans are between a rock and a hard place. Support Trump, they will lose yet again. The mid-terms proved that. Oppose him, he will destroy the GOP out of spite. He adds an extra dimension to vindictive.

Their best hope is for him to be convicted.

For all his faults, Biden represents normalcy to the majority of voters. Trump is a return to chaos.

If Trump is even indicted by the feds, lots of politicians better hope that Twitter's servers can handle the load as millions of tweets are deleted.

[Lacessit]

5 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

If Trump is even indicted by the feds, lots of politicians better hope that Twitter's servers can handle the load as millions of tweets are deleted.

I am not sure Twitter will survive Musk.

[ballpoint]

Republicans are divided between those who have always supported the more conservative option, who no doubt would be happy to have anyone having similar views and who has a good chance of becoming president as their leader, and the MAGA / QAnon / Oathkeepers / Boogaloo Boys / Proud boys / <insert any other silly named conspiracy group here> brigade who see Trump as the chosen one to lead them into the promised land of right wing, white skin, Christian gun slinging righteousness (which is more than a little strange, given Trump's actions and lifestyle, both past and present.  The Hypocrite Boys would seem to be a more appropriate name for these groups).  Therefore, while many Republican supporters may well be willing to hitch their conservative wagons to another mule train, there will always be a large minority who will do all they can to skin those mules.  (As this very forum has shown). The hatred pouring out towards any Republican who speaks up against Trump, and even any Republican who is just seen as a threat to Trump's "leadership" of the party, on right wing "news" sites and their comments' sections, is downright scary and alarming.  DeSantis is now being particularly targeted by them as his star rises.  Like a group of dogs who turn on any newcomer threatening their leader of the pack, they're well on the way to ripping the party in two, with the moderate conservatives separating from the rabid ones.  In fact, it could well be argued that three parties are now appropriate.  A far left one, a central "semi-left-semi-right" one and a far right one, but I can't see that happening anytime soon.

[Lacessit]

21 minutes ago, ballpoint said:

Republicans are divided between those who have always supported the more conservative option, who no doubt would be happy to have anyone having similar views and who has a good chance of becoming president as their leader, and the MAGA / QAnon / Oathkeepers / Boogaloo Boys / Proud boys / <insert any other silly named conspiracy group here> brigade who see Trump as the chosen one to lead them into the promised land of right wing, white skin, Christian gun slinging righteousness (which is more than a little strange, given Trump's actions and lifestyle, both past and present.  The Hypocrite Boys would seem to be a more appropriate name for these groups).  Therefore, while many Republican supporters may well be willing to hitch their conservative wagons to another mule train, there will always be a large minority who will do all they can to skin those mules.  (As this very forum has shown). The hatred pouring out towards any Republican who speaks up against Trump, and even any Republican who is just seen as a threat to Trump's "leadership" of the party, on right wing "news" sites and their comments' sections, is downright scary and alarming.  DeSantis is now being particularly targeted by them as his star rises.  Like a group of dogs who turn on any newcomer threatening their leader of the pack, they're well on the way to ripping the party in two, with the moderate conservatives separating from the rabid ones.  In fact, it could well be argued that three parties are now appropriate.  A far left one, a central "semi-left-semi-right" one and a far right one, but I can't see that happening anytime soon.

I can remember in Australia when the Labor party split, with the formation of the Democratic Labour Party. Anti-communist, strong Catholic influence.

Arguably, the split kept the Liberals in power for more than a decade.

Voters shy away from disunity, as I suspect the Republicans found out in the mid-terms. Roe vs Wade was icing on the cake for the Democrats.

History repeats itself.

[earlinclaifornia]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Thank you for your well reasoned and entirely relevant contribution to the discussion.

 

As for the topic, I don't want him to be able to create even more of a circus than has unfortunately been created by the Dems desire to convict him of something, anything at all. I do think he should be "convinced" to go somewhere and enjoy his retirement with his family.

 

Put him on trial and reap the publicity he will garner.

 

Edit.

It just occurred to me that Biden may relish the circus of a Trump trial as it will take all the attention off the disaster he is, IMO, presiding over.

Did you "Woke" to the Republican loses this electron, thanks to this genius managed to lose for 2022? Are you aware of the bigly unelectable  chosen candidates, guess not! Biden is a God now!

Owning the Senate, Biden will get all of his judges confirmed.

[Paul Henry]

Forgetting about politics. Talking only "TRUMP"

A liar                                                                         Insurrectionist

A cheat                                                                     Thief

An adulterer                                                             Traitor

Racist                                                                        Oathbreaker                                                              

Bully

Bad businessman 

Doesn't pay people he owes money too

Multiple bankrupt

Narcisscist

Failed Scholar

Not opinions "Facts"

And still some Americans want him to be President again. Thank God most Americans have a brain