ozfarang Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Anyone care to explain why you can spend all the monthly deposits(from an overseas source) for 12 months of your extension if you choose this method of extension. Whereas if you use the ฿800,000 deposit method for 12 months you can only use half of your deposit. Is this Thai logic at work, or do I think too much???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted December 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2022 Thai logic again, also why a single retiree needs 65k a month, if married only 40k 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puchooay Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 It's to ensure you have the funds and have not borrowed them. If you need to keep half in the bank there is no way you could pay it back. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozfarang Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: Thai logic again, also why a single retiree needs 65k a month, if married only 40k Same logic, when a foreign woman marries a Thai national no funds required at all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozfarang Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, puchooay said: It's to ensure you have the funds and have not borrowed them. If you need to keep half in the bank there is no way you could pay it back. So the Thai immigration are looking after the foreigners on retirement extensions to stop them going into debt. That's thoughtful of them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, ozfarang said: So the Thai immigration are looking after the foreigners on retirement extensions to stop them going into debt. That's thoughtful of them Because that's the rule for 'their' country. As with every country ... ... LOVE IT or LEAVE IT ... door swings both ways Seriously ... if you can't afford, or don't have 400k in savings for emergencies, you probably shouldn't be living internationally, and stay in home country with their useless safety nets. Go bankrupt there, it's safer, as at least they'll admit you to a hospital. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) Because using income method proves you have earnings coming in and it can be replaced? A bank account only shows amount on deposit - it does not indicate any means to add to it, so a relatively minor personal or medical emergency could become a major financial issue. Edited December 13, 2022 by lopburi3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, lopburi3 said: Because using income method proves you have earnings coming in and it can be replaced? A bank account only shows amount on deposit - it does not indicate any means to add to it, so a relatively minor personal or medical emergency could become a major financial issue. And for those of us using the 'Combination' method, we get the best of both worlds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozfarang Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, lopburi3 said: Because using income method proves you have earnings coming in and it can be replaced? A bank account only shows amount on deposit - it does not indicate any means to add to it, so a relatively minor medical emergency could become a major financial issue. You can use half the deposit for seven months of the year to support yourself which is the same amount as required for a marriage extension, which can be used. Then you top up to ฿800,000 and that would indicate indicate you can support yourself with earnings. The same as an extension using the monthly deposit method, which you can spend the lot over 12 months. So why the other ฿400,000 required on deposit? Thai logic at it's best Edited December 13, 2022 by ozfarang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeahbutif Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 This is For some reason they only count what comes in and not what goes out.. this was the day when I used to get letter From embassy to clarify my income .they only looked at bank statement and saw the correct amount .they not see I put it in and took straight out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onerak Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, ozfarang said: Is this Thai logic at work, or do I think too much You thin too much. You take pride in yearly accomplishments of getting a "refugee visa" (yearly retirement via) for 1900. Edited December 13, 2022 by Onerak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onerak Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 4 hours ago, KhunLA said: Go bankrupt there, it's safer, as at least they'll admit you to a hospital. Not in the USA unless it is an emergency and they will only stabilize you to prevent your death so that they could hound you to give them their money back or declare bankruptcy and live on the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozfarang Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Onerak said: You thin too much. You take pride in yearly accomplishments of getting a "refugee visa" (yearly retirement via) for 1900. You've read me wrong @Onerak I use an agent, been jerked around for too many years by immigration 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Onerak said: Not in the USA unless it is an emergency and they will only stabilize you to prevent your death so that they could hound you to give them their money back or declare bankruptcy and live on the street. Yes, but at least they admit you & save your life ... here, maybe not. They wanted payment in advance at the Govt hosp last month or so, or no admittance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I understand the thinking behind both requirements is to have retirees capable of meeting any medical expenses while in Thailand, however, I could be entirely wrong. Presumably the lower bar for people married to a Thai is based on the proposition you have family support, hence less cash is required. Winston Churchill once described Russia as "a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma." He would have been really baffled by Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onerak Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, KhunLA said: They wanted payment in advance at the Govt hosp last month or so, or no admittance. I was admitted to to Bangkok Pattaya hospital and they did not ask for payment in advance. I even joked when clearing by bills what would happen if I don't pay and walk out. Are you guys going to call police? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiaexpat Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 12 hours ago, KhunLA said: Yes, but at least they admit you & save your life ... here, maybe not. They wanted payment in advance at the Govt hosp last month or so, or no admittance. Must depend on hospital because last month I was admitted to a government hospital on emergency and stayed one night without paying in advance. However, they would not release me until payment in full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan O Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 13 hours ago, Onerak said: Not in the USA unless it is an emergency and they will only stabilize you to prevent your death so that they could hound you to give them their money back or declare bankruptcy and live on the street. Not true. Once admitted they will not discharge for lack of funds as your as payment or insurance is taken care of after the fact in almost all cases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 18 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: Thai logic again, also why a single retiree needs 65k a month, if married only 40k 'Coz they think the wife can work and support themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puchooay Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 6 hours ago, brianthainess said: 'Coz they think the wife can work and support themselves. That's a good point. My wife has worked ever since we've been together. She's always had her own money, with the exception of the time when she was taking care of our new born daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozfarang Posted December 14, 2022 Author Share Posted December 14, 2022 7 hours ago, brianthainess said: 'Coz they think the wife can work and support themselves. Yes, and the husband can legally work with a work permit. Retired, need ฿800,000/65,000 p/m can use 400,000 for seven months and then top up. Married, ฿400,000/40,000 p/m What's the logic behind the different amounts required was the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokHank Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 On 12/13/2022 at 2:25 PM, scubascuba3 said: Thai logic again, also why a single retiree needs 65k a month, if married only 40k According to Thai thinking, having a Thai wife would enable a man to live for less - because his wife can help him avoid being cheated/paying farang prices for things. A single farang doesn't have this advantage, so he needs more money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, BangkokHank said: According to Thai thinking, having a Thai wife would enable a man to live for less - because his wife can help him avoid being cheated/paying farang prices for things. A single farang doesn't have this advantage, so he needs more money. ok, plausible, i thought the logic was single men go to agogos so spend more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokHank Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: ok, plausible, i thought the logic was single men go to agogos so spend more Also plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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