Social Media Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 US President Joe Biden has condemned antisemitism at a White House party to commemorate the second day of Hanukkah, the Jewish festival of lights. The joyful holiday, which is marked by lighting candles and eating oily foods, comes amid reports of a national and global uptick in antisemitic rhetoric. Mr Biden, the second Catholic US president, said: "I will not be silent and America will not be silent." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted December 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2022 I agree hate towards any group is wrong 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SunnyinBangrak Posted December 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2022 Wild guess, but he is not talking about the squad and other antisemites in his own party is he? Like most things biden he uses questionable narratives to attack conservatives, and his fans can't get enough. I would like to see anti-semitism tackled no matter who the hater is. Wishful thinking, I know. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted December 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2022 20 hours ago, Black Ops said: The joyful holiday, which is marked by lighting candles and eating oily foods, So he decides to make it about antisemitism. He must be a real ball of fun at parties. Surely he could have made that speech any time? 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted December 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2022 24 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Wild guess, but he is not talking about the squad and other antisemites in his own party is he? Like most things biden he uses questionable narratives to attack conservatives, and his fans can't get enough. I would like to see anti-semitism tackled no matter who the hater is. Wishful thinking, I know. Your assertion that Biden is not talking about ‘all antisemitism’ is based on your ‘wild guess’. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted December 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: So he decides to make it about antisemitism. He must be a real ball of fun at parties. Surely he could have made that speech any time? Erm, Hanukkah, it’s a Jewish festival. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: So he decides to make it about antisemitism. He must be a real ball of fun at parties. Surely he could have made that speech any time? Trumps kids all married Jews so he can't be an anti-Semite. As far as I can see all the Presidential candidates are OK with Jews, so Bidens speech is irrelevant. Not sure where Biden is going on this one (assuming he knows where he is when he started). As for Hannukkah, it's about lighting your house with candles and giving gifts to each other. Not sure where the 'eating oily food' came from, that's news to me. Edited December 21, 2022 by BritManToo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted December 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2022 10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: So he decides to make it about antisemitism. He must be a real ball of fun at parties. Surely he could have made that speech any time? Did you see where he was at the time? quote "US President Joe Biden has condemned antisemitism at a White House party to commemorate the second day of Hanukkah, the Jewish festival of lights." 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 3 hours ago, BritManToo said: Trumps kids all married Jews so he can't be an anti-Semite. As far as I can see all the Presidential candidates are OK with Jews, so Bidens speech is irrelevant. Not sure where Biden is going on this one (assuming he knows where he is when he started). As for Hannukkah, it's about lighting your house with candles and giving gifts to each other. Not sure where the 'eating oily food' came from, that's news to me. The thread isn't about Trump. Why are you bashing a president who speaks out against anti-semitism? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VillageIdiot Posted December 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2022 Was this a planned presentation or an impromptu outpouring? If the latter, then maybe the "oily food" triggered it. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted December 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2022 6 hours ago, BritManToo said: Trumps kids all married Jews so he can't be an anti-Semite. As far as I can see all the Presidential candidates are OK with Jews, so Bidens speech is irrelevant. Not sure where Biden is going on this one (assuming he knows where he is when he started). As for Hannukkah, it's about lighting your house with candles and giving gifts to each other. Not sure where the 'eating oily food' came from, that's news to me. A presidential speech against antisemitism is irrelevant because other presidential candidates are ok with Jews? Did you ever consider he is addressing US society as a whole? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scott Posted December 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2022 9 hours ago, BritManToo said: Trumps kids all married Jews so he can't be an anti-Semite. As far as I can see all the Presidential candidates are OK with Jews, so Bidens speech is irrelevant. Not sure where Biden is going on this one (assuming he knows where he is when he started). As for Hannukkah, it's about lighting your house with candles and giving gifts to each other. Not sure where the 'eating oily food' came from, that's news to me. Trump's children did not all marry Jews. Eric is not married to a Jew and Barron most certainly isn't. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 11 hours ago, stevenl said: A presidential speech against antisemitism is irrelevant because other presidential candidates are ok with Jews? Did you ever consider he is addressing US society as a whole? I considered he was using a "joyful" holiday to make a political speech to divert attention from something else- perhaps the end of his agenda in a few days when the GOP control the money. Whatever the reason, he didn't have to do so then. It's not like racism is going to magically vanish because he made a speech about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said: I considered he was using a "joyful" holiday to make a political speech to divert attention from something else- perhaps the end of his agenda in a few days when the GOP control the money. Whatever the reason, he didn't have to do so then. It's not like racism is going to magically vanish because he made a speech about it. Is there not a time to speak out against racism? As previously explained to you it was on a Jewish religious day. It also came not long after anti-semitism in public life had risen to it's highest level in many years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I considered he was using a "joyful" holiday to make a political speech to divert attention from something else- perhaps the end of his agenda in a few days when the GOP control the money. Whatever the reason, he didn't have to do so then. It's not like racism is going to magically vanish because he made a speech about it. It won't magically;y disappear so he shouldn't talk about it. It was a Jewish celebration so he shouldn't speak about Jewish issues. Your posts make less and less sense. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, stevenl said: A presidential speech against antisemitism is irrelevant because other presidential candidates are ok with Jews? Did you ever consider he is addressing US society as a whole? Ye is running and he is a vile Jew hater. Trump regularly indulges in antisemitic tropes, rhetoric, and imagery in campaign ads. He recently dined with a Nazi alongside Ye. But yes correct it's definitely not only about presidential candidates. Jews are the biggest target of hate crimes in the US. Edited December 22, 2022 by Jingthing 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) I can't imagine Jews objecting to Biden's support to fight anti Jewish racism during Channukah. To note Channukah is one of the many minor Jewish holidays which has been artificially inflated in the US to make Jewish American children feel better during the Christmas season. Along the lines of Channukah bushes. Edited December 22, 2022 by Jingthing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MRToMRT Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 So is there actually data to support the notion of a rise in antisemitism? Is there data to show that theres a rise in Anti-zionism? Is there data to show these two are treated separately, as they should be. Or is this just political pampering. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, MRToMRT said: So is there actually data to support the notion of a rise in antisemitism? Is there data to show that theres a rise in Anti-zionism? Is there data to show these two are treated separately, as they should be. Or is this just political pampering. have you been living under a rock? There is the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys (Charlottesville), there are an ex president's many anti-semitic comments. There is Kanye West. There is no shortage of high profile anti-semitism lately. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRToMRT Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, ozimoron said: have you been living under a rock? There is the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys (Charlottesville), there are an ex president's many anti-semitic comments. There is Kanye West. There is no shortage of high profile anti-semitism lately. Well if those people were anti-semitic already then theres no rise is there? Just because the media show stuff its does not mean the populous are becoming more anti-semetic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, MRToMRT said: Well if those people were anti-semitic already then theres no rise is there? Just because the media show stuff its does not mean the populous are becoming more anti-semetic. Prior to Obama's presidency these subhumans were far fewer in number and far more muted. They became mainstreamed after trump was elected. Edited December 22, 2022 by ozimoron 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 53 minutes ago, MRToMRT said: Well if those people were anti-semitic already then theres no rise is there? Just because the media show stuff its does not mean the populous are becoming more anti-semetic. Here you go: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/antisemitic-incidents-hit-a-record-high-in-2021-whats-behind-the-rise-in-hate 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 52 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Prior to Obama's presidency these subhumans were far fewer in number and far more muted. They became mainstreamed after trump was elected. I think the correct terms are ‘empowered’ and ‘validated’. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandeventer Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 20 hours ago, BritManToo said: Trumps kids all married Jews so he can't be an anti-Semite. As far as I can see all the Presidential candidates are OK with Jews, so Bidens speech is irrelevant. Not sure where Biden is going on this one (assuming he knows where he is when he started). As for Hannukkah, it's about lighting your house with candles and giving gifts to each other. Not sure where the 'eating oily food' came from, that's news %to me. I grew up in a small town in the USA where there were 80% Jewish families. I had many friends that were Jewish and I wished them all a happy Hanukkah as they wished me a Merry Christmas, yes we all need to get along in this world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 21 hours ago, BritManToo said: Trumps kids all married Jews so he can't be an anti-Semite. As far as I can see all the Presidential candidates are OK with Jews, so Bidens speech is irrelevant. Not sure where Biden is going on this one (assuming he knows where he is when he started). As for Hannukkah, it's about lighting your house with candles and giving gifts to each other. Not sure where the 'eating oily food' came from, that's news to me. It's not a question of whether or not Trump is an anti-Semite. It's whether or not he exploits anti-Semitism to advance his own political interests. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: I considered he was using a "joyful" holiday to make a political speech to divert attention from something else- perhaps the end of his agenda in a few days when the GOP control the money. Whatever the reason, he didn't have to do so then. It's not like racism is going to magically vanish because he made a speech about it. Can you name a speech that ever made a major problem magically vanish? Apart, rom resignation speeches. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 24 minutes ago, placeholder said: Can you name a speech that ever made a major problem magically vanish? Apart, rom resignation speeches. Yes and it is so much better to have the top leader take the moral stand rather than having a Dine Kampf meal and saying garbage like there are good people on both sides when one side promotes Nazism. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 30 minutes ago, placeholder said: It's not a question of whether or not Trump is an anti-Semite. It's whether or not he exploits anti-Semitism to advance his own political interests. Yes he knows his base is heavily infected with white supremacists. As long as they like him, he likes them and doesn't want to alienate them. As far as what's in trump's soul if he has one, it is less important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 3 hours ago, MRToMRT said: Well if those people were anti-semitic already then theres no rise is there? Just because the media show stuff its does not mean the populous are becoming more anti-semetic. Obviously the more Muslims you let in a country, the more people will be anti-Jewish. Probably more true about UK/Europe than the USA. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Obviously the more Muslims you let in a country, the more people will be anti-Jewish. Probably more true about UK/Europe than the USA. That's not more true than Christians are anti Muslim. Your tribal racial hatred is on display. Edited December 22, 2022 by ozimoron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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