13 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Really, and where is that???

Seriously?  Is the statement "Strong enough to lead NATO and confront Russia?  Thanks to Biden we're already there." difficult for you to comprehend?

 

I'm sorry, I can't make it simpler.  Perhaps you can explain how Trump's habit of kowtowing to dictators and alienating allies makes America stronger.

2 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

No, that is a lie I'm afraid. Many have been debunked - I have posted the debunking article numerous times. Using a lie to attack Trump as being a "liar" while supporting serial self aggrandising liar Joe Biden is obviously not a logical move.

 

Happy to supply by pm the thorough and undeniable debunking article by marketwatch, which according to mediabiasfactcheck has "HIGH" score for factual reporting yet is off limits.

Perhaps check how many lies he tells daily on Truth Social and add that up.....................lol

Some more posts and replies that were drifting off topic have been removed.

13 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Perhaps check how many lies he tells daily on Truth Social and add that up.....................lol

Here is another lie the man just said and another reason he should be barred from ever holding or running for office 

 

Trump Says There Were No Documents Found at Mar-a-Lago, Just ‘Cool’ Empty Folders Marked Classified | Watch (msn.com)

3 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Here is another lie the man just said and another reason he should be barred from ever holding or running for office 

 

Trump Says There Were No Documents Found at Mar-a-Lago, Just ‘Cool’ Empty Folders Marked Classified | Watch (msn.com)

Yea it must have been a few days later he then said the FBI probably planted them..............lol

Florida judge whacks Trump lawyers with nearly $1 million in sanctions for 'misuse of the courts'

 

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-lawyers-sanctioned/

Judge slaps down Peter Navarro’s attempt to dismiss contempt of Congress case

 

“Defendant has failed to come forward with any evidence to support the claimed assertion of privilege. And, because the claimed assertion of executive privilege is unproven, Defendant cannot avoid prosecution for contempt,” Mehta wrote.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/peter-navarro-denied-executive-privilege/

NC Marine, 2 others were on active duty when they broke into the Capitol on Jan. 6, FBI says

 

A Marine stationed at Camp Lejeune has become the latest North Carolina resident charged in connection with the riot at the U.S. Capitol — and the first to be on active military duty at the time he committed his alleged crime.

 

https://nordot.app/989255484979511296?c=592622757532812385

On 1/19/2023 at 6:10 AM, heybruce said:

 

Seriously?  Is the statement "Strong enough to lead NATO and confront Russia?  Thanks to Biden we're already there." difficult for you to comprehend?

 

I'm sorry, I can't make it simpler.  Perhaps you can explain how Trump's habit of kowtowing to dictators and alienating allies makes America stronger.

quote "Perhaps you can explain how Trump's habit of kowtowing to dictators and alienating allies makes America stronger."

 

sounds like a false claim. any supporting evidence for it? Working to achieve worldwide peace with some difficult nations is not "kowtowing to dictators". The historic 4 years of world peace his negotiations allowed was obviously incredibly inconvenient to the democrat narrative, but no need to make up false claims.

Edited January 20, 20233 yr by SunnyinBangrak

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

quote "Perhaps you can explain how Trump's habit of kowtowing to dictators and alienating allies makes America stronger."

 

sounds like a false claim. any supporting evidence for it? Working to achieve worldwide peace with some difficult nations is not "kowtowing to dictators". The historic 4 years of world peace his negotiations allowed was obviously incredibly inconvenient to the democrat narrative, but no need to make up false claims.

What historic negotiations?  Kim Jong Un did the usual North Korea noise making for attention that he does after every new President is elected and Trump fell in love with him and gave him legitimacy that Kim had long craved but been denied under other Presidents.  Then things returned to normal.

 

Other than threatening to reduce support for NATO, Japan, South Korea and other allies (a gift to Putin and Xi) I can't think of any other "negotiations" Trump engaged in.

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

What historic negotiations?  Kim Jong Un did the usual North Korea noise making for attention that he does after every new President is elected and Trump fell in love with him and gave him legitimacy that Kim had long craved but been denied under other Presidents.  Then things returned to normal.

 

Other than threatening to reduce support for NATO, Japan, South Korea and other allies (a gift to Putin and Xi) I can't think of any other "negotiations" Trump engaged in.

Well, at least ones we know about. There is that time where he and Putin had a private discussion in Helsinki without any Trump advisers being present.

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Well, at least ones we know about. There is that time where he and Putin had a private discussion in Helsinki without any Trump advisers being present.

Yep, " Hey Rasputin, how's that deal going, you know the one to get me some land I can make my own country" 

On 12/25/2022 at 10:55 AM, candide said:

It's a lie. It has already been pointed out to you, and you knowingly repeat the same lie. Posting it over and over will not make it true. The report doesn't ommit this fact.

 

Posting on his social media site, Trump called the report “highly partisan” and falsely claimed it didn’t include his statement on January 6 that his supporters should protest “peacefully and patriotically.” The committee did include that statement, though, and noted that he followed that comment with election falsehoods and charged language exhorting the crowd to “fight like hell.”

https://www.euronews.com/2022/12/23/house-committee-report-says-donald-trump-lit-the-fire-of-capitol-riots

And just like that it was all revealed to be lefty propaganda which the usual suspects blindly swallowed and gleefully regurgitated for years😅

 

"An edition of Panorama, broadcast a week before the US election, spliced together clips of a Trump speech made on 6 January 2021. The spliced clip suggested that Trump told the crowd: “We’re going to walk down to the Capitol and I’ll be there with you, and we fight. We fight like hell.”

 

The words were taken from sections of his speech almost an hour apart. It did not include a section in which Trump said he wanted supporters “to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard”."

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/nov/03/bbc-accused-selectively-editing-trump-clip-capitol-attack

 

BUSTED🤣😅😂

26 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

And just like that it was all revealed to be lefty propaganda which the usual suspects blindly swallowed and gleefully regurgitated for years😅

 

"An edition of Panorama, broadcast a week before the US election, spliced together clips of a Trump speech made on 6 January 2021. The spliced clip suggested that Trump told the crowd: “We’re going to walk down to the Capitol and I’ll be there with you, and we fight. We fight like hell.”

 

The words were taken from sections of his speech almost an hour apart. It did not include a section in which Trump said he wanted supporters “to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard”."

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/nov/03/bbc-accused-selectively-editing-trump-clip-capitol-attack

 

BUSTED🤣😅😂

You're completely incoherent again! Did you forget your meds? 🤣

 

The BBC program mentioned is not the January 6 committee report! 😆

 

I also doubt that the BBC has any noticeable impact on US election voters! 😅

3 minutes ago, candide said:

You're completely incoherent again! Did you forget your meds? 🤣

 

The BBC program mentioned is not the January 6 committee report! 😆

 

I also doubt that the BBC has any noticeable impact on US election voters! 😅

January 6th?

 

 I think the committee will find Pelosi liable.

 

 

2 hours ago, candide said:

You're completely incoherent again! Did you forget your meds? 🤣

 

The BBC program mentioned is not the January 6 committee report! 😆

 

I also doubt that the BBC has any noticeable impact on US election voters! 😅

 

You're right.  The Panorama program is not mentioned in the J6 committee report. However, similar editorial "tactics" were employed by the left-leaning US MSM at the time, then aped by that useless J6 committee later on. The omission of Trump's spoken adjectives "peacefully and patriotically" (with reference to the march and rally)  was common to all of these shams.

2 hours ago, Rocky Sullivan said:

January 6th?

 

 I think the committee will find Pelosi liable.

 

 

 

Never happen with that particular committee but that should have been the finding,

 

Maybe they should do it again?? 

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

 

You're right.  The Panorama program is not mentioned in the J6 committee report. However, similar editorial "tactics" were employed by the left-leaning US MSM at the time, then aped by that useless J6 committee later on. The omission of Trump's spoken adjectives "peacefully and patriotically" (with reference to the march and rally)  was common to all of these shams.

In other words, you have nothing!

23 minutes ago, candide said:

In other words, you have nothing!

 

It was the J6 committee that had nothing (and ended up with the same).

 

Toodle pip! 

16 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

It was the J6 committee that had nothing (and ended up with the same).

 

Toodle pip! 

In the MAGA and assimilated alternate universe only. 

 

Trump watched the assault on TV and did nothing to stop it quickly.

He could have sent messages asking his fans to leave the Capitol ASAP, he didn't.

 

Or as POTUS he  could have requisitioned airtime on main channels to tell them to stop now. He didn't.

 

 

Now Trump invokes the Insurrection Act...

6 minutes ago, Real Name Hidden said:

Now Trump invokes the Insurrection Act...

Rigjt. He could also have done it for attack on federal buildings on Jan. 6.

1 hour ago, candide said:

In the MAGA and assimilated alternate universe only. 

 

Trump watched the assault on TV and did nothing to stop it quickly.

He could have sent messages asking his fans to leave the Capitol ASAP, he didn't.

 

Or as POTUS he  could have requisitioned airtime on main channels to tell them to stop now. He didn't.

 

 

 

A lot of people might have done this, or even that!

 

Maybe the Capitol Police Chief should have had the support that he requested three days ahead of time? From the link below:

 

I did everything I could to protect and defend the US Capitol and the members of congress prior to and on January 6. On January 3, I requested the assistance of the National Guard to support my perimeter and was denied by the two Sergeants at Arms over the concerns for politics and optics.

 

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/HA/HA06/20230919/116368/HHRG-118-HA06-Wstate-SundS-20230919.pdf

 

 

15 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

A lot of people might have done this, or even that!

 

Maybe the Capitol Police Chief should have had the support that he requested three days ahead of time? From the link below:

 

I did everything I could to protect and defend the US Capitol and the members of congress prior to and on January 6. On January 3, I requested the assistance of the National Guard to support my perimeter and was denied by the two Sergeants at Arms over the concerns for politics and optics.

 

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/HA/HA06/20230919/116368/HHRG-118-HA06-Wstate-SundS-20230919.pdf

 

🙂

It doesn't excuse Trump's behaviour on Jan. 6 

 

BTW, the organizers of the "stop the steal" (🙂) protest hid that Trump was going to send a mob to the Capitol, when they asked for an authorisation.

 

"This stays only between us, we are having a second stage at the Supreme Court again after the ellipse. POTUS is going to have us march there/the Capitol ... It can also not get out about the march because I will be in trouble with the national park service and all the agencies but POTUS is going to just call for it 'unexpectedly,'" a WFAF representative texted on Jan. 4 to MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, who was a potential speaker at the event.

 

Organizers of Jan. 6 rally withheld information that would have changed security plans, says government report

https://abcnews.go.com/US/organizers-jan-6-rally-withheld-information-changed-security/story?id=105747804

2 hours ago, candide said:

It doesn't excuse Trump's behaviour on Jan. 6 

 

BTW, the organizers of the "stop the steal" (🙂) protest hid that Trump was going to send a mob to the Capitol, when they asked for an authorisation.

 

"This stays only between us, we are having a second stage at the Supreme Court again after the ellipse. POTUS is going to have us march there/the Capitol ... It can also not get out about the march because I will be in trouble with the national park service and all the agencies but POTUS is going to just call for it 'unexpectedly,'" a WFAF representative texted on Jan. 4 to MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, who was a potential speaker at the event.

 

Organizers of Jan. 6 rally withheld information that would have changed security plans, says government report

https://abcnews.go.com/US/organizers-jan-6-rally-withheld-information-changed-security/story?id=105747804

Still upset about the American people deciding on January 6th and voting Trump back in office.

 

Take your pick:

312/226. Trump wins 

77 million/75 million.  Trump wins.

 

Time to get with the current times

3 hours ago, Rocky Sullivan said:

Still upset about the American people deciding on January 6th and voting Trump back in office.

 

Take your pick:

312/226. Trump wins 

77 million/75 million.  Trump wins.

 

Time to get with the current times

Do you think it's stupid to restart this topic?

6 hours ago, candide said:

It doesn't excuse Trump's behaviour on Jan. 6 

 

BTW, the organizers of the "stop the steal" (🙂) protest hid that Trump was going to send a mob to the Capitol, when they asked for an authorisation.

 

"This stays only between us, we are having a second stage at the Supreme Court again after the ellipse. POTUS is going to have us march there/the Capitol ... It can also not get out about the march because I will be in trouble with the national park service and all the agencies but POTUS is going to just call for it 'unexpectedly,'" a WFAF representative texted on Jan. 4 to MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, who was a potential speaker at the event.

 

Organizers of Jan. 6 rally withheld information that would have changed security plans, says government report

https://abcnews.go.com/US/organizers-jan-6-rally-withheld-information-changed-security/story?id=105747804

 

Sounds like a complete deflection to me and way way after the fact. "Park Police" were never mentioned in the J6 hearings, investigations or anything I've ever read and they are not responsible for security at the Capitol, anyway.

 

Take an F.

Resurrect a 3 year old thread to try and cover up the horrible performance in yesterday's election?

59 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Sounds like a complete deflection to me and way way after the fact. "Park Police" were never mentioned in the J6 hearings, investigations or anything I've ever read and they are not responsible for security at the Capitol, anyway.

 

Take an F.

 

The stop the steal protest organizers did not declare that the protesters would march to the Capitol when they asked for an authorisation to organize it there.

9 minutes ago, candide said:

Blah blah,

The stop the steal protest organizers did not declared that the protesters would march to the Capitol when they asked to an authorisation to organize it.

 

Try rearranging those words to form something comprehendible?