Jump to content

Police deny extorting money from Taiwanese actress


webfact

Recommended Posts

9 hours ago, webfact said:

AFTER A TAIWANESE actress accused Huai Khwang police of taking a 27,000 baht payoff from her during New Year holiday visit to Bangkok, the seven policemen at a checkpoint where she and her friends were stopped denied the extortion allegations

As if they would admit it?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

“Police deny extorting money from Taiwanese actress”

 

Of course they deny it, what else would you expect from such an honorable and honest institution? The RTP would deny it even if there were pictures of police officers holding a gun to her head and the actress handing over the 27,000 baht. 

  • Like 1
  • Thumbs Up 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I see from the TV news that the Thonglor police are fighting back with a denial. Unfortunately for them, when you have a reputation for behavioral "naughtiness", you lose your credibility and people don't trust or belive you anymore.

  • Like 1
  • Thumbs Up 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

If their lips are moving.... :whistling:

 

So the BiB are not denying that that they stopped a taxi full of tourists... 

They are just denying they took 27,000 baht off a tourist... 

 

They then claim the tourist had illegal e-Cig... But there is no evidence of that, no charge, no fine receipt, no confiscation of illegal e-cig...  hmmmmm.... 

 

Of course, we all have a very good idea of who to believe here...  

 

The BiB are not even explain why they searched the tourists....  

Thats the first thing that is wrong about all of this...  searching without any legal reason (other than the illegal reason of trying to find anything they could use to extort the tourists). 

 

 

  • Thumbs Up 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Yet millions of people don’t wear a helmet. 

 

How did they know she had an e-cigarette ??? 

They searched her. 

Why did the search her ?

 

This is the issue...   why would the police stop a taxi and start searching people ?....

 

Answer: Obvious shakedown - they were looking for anything they could use to extort money out of the tourists. 

 

 

So is speeding, not wearing a helmet, not wearing a seatbelt etc... yet the police do nothing. 

So, why is vaping such an issue ?

 

The legality of vaping etc is a complete distraction from the reality of what happened at this stop. 

 

On what grounds did the police carry out a search ?... Isn’t it illegal to carry out a search without grounds or reason to believe someone was carrying something illegal ???

 

The police had no grounds for suspicion, they were acting illegally themselves and hoping they’d find anything they could use to charge the tourists.

 

The police used to do this at Ekammai bus station, search guys baggage (heading to Pattaya on the bus) and hope they’d find Viagra, they extort the tourist out of $$ for a fine. 

 

NONE of this is about policing - its about getting cash, nothing else at all no matter how some may try and dress this up. 

 

 

Police do have the right to stop you, request id and search you here. If you refuse, you can be arrested.

 

It seems they do need cause but they could simply make that up after the fact. Dilated pupils, red face would be a sign of drug use for example and after the fact, who could argue that these physical signs were not there?

 

More on it here: https://www.khaosodenglish.com/opinion/2018/03/14/stopped-by-police-in-thailand-what-you-should-do/ and this is worth a read too - https://www.thailandbail.com/thai-police-search-what-you-should-do-if-the-police-want-to-search-you/

 

 

 

 

Edited by pedro01
Link to comment
Share on other sites

41 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

Police do have the right to stop you, request id and search you here. If you refuse, you can be arrested.

 

It seems they do need cause but they could simply make that up after the fact. Dilated pupils, red face would be a sign of drug use for example and after the fact, who could argue that these physical signs were not there?

 

More on it here: https://www.khaosodenglish.com/opinion/2018/03/14/stopped-by-police-in-thailand-what-you-should-do/ and this is worth a read too - https://www.thailandbail.com/thai-police-search-what-you-should-do-if-the-police-want-to-search-you/

 

Agreed... they have the right, but they have to have ‘cause’. But, as you noted, they can just make this up.

 

Why would they make up cause ?... because they are corrupt and want to find something, anything, so they can extort someone.

 

They certainly have no valid grounds at all to stop a taxi and ask everyone to get out so they can search them. When I’ve been stopped in a taxi I was simply sat in there, seatbelt on... there was no cause whatsoever - other than I was a foreigner.

 

 

In this case, the BiB did what?... looked through a window of a taxi and tell everyone to get out so they can search them.... Why ? where is the cause  there ??...   being a foreigner is the only cause. 

 

What possible other cause could they have ????.....  The answer is a clear and obvious none.. Just people in a taxi, drunk is not cause to be searched. 

 

 

 

 

  • Thumbs Up 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 hours ago, IAMHERE said:

She had 27K in her purse? If she withdrew money at an ATM then there'd be some CCTV from the ATM. Doesn't prove much but would lend credence to her version of what went on.

I believe that 20k is the maximum you can withdraw from an ATM in one hit?

I suppose that she may have had 7k on her, and she "offered" to withdraw another 20k. Do all ATMs have CCTV? I was under the impression that only the ones outside banks did.

  • Thumbs Up 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, herfiehandbag said:

I believe that 20k is the maximum you can withdraw from an ATM in one hit?

I suppose that she may have had 7k on her, and she "offered" to withdraw another 20k. Do all ATMs have CCTV? I was under the impression that only the ones outside banks did.

There’s nothing stopping you putting your card in more than once.... 

 

Besides... many tourists carry more cash around with them.

 

This will be proven in the coming weeks when the Police find 100,000 baht and return it to a Taiwanese tourist !!! :whistling:

 

-------

 

Additionally, having proof that money was withdrawn from an ATM only proves that money was withdrawn from an ATM....   unless of course the policeman was stood in shot !!...  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

37 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

this case, the BiB did what?... looked through a window of a taxi and tell everyone to get out so they can search them.... Why ? where is the cause  there ??...   being a foreigner is the only cause. 

 

What possible other cause could they have ????.....  The answer is a clear and obvious none.. Just people in a taxi, drunk is not cause to be searched. 

 

 

 

 

At the risk of being accused of being a conspiracy theorist, I would suggest that the police were aware that she and her friends were in that taxi - likely having had someone outside the club identifying suitable targets - that may also account for the.presence.of a group of South Korean women in the police station. After all, a quick random look inside at a check point in both cases would only reveal a group of female Asian passengers.

 

They probably didn't know that she was a well known actress, just that she was one of a group of well dressed affluent foreigners leaving an expensive nightclub, possibly returning to an upmarket hotel, and therefore worth shaking down. The same is likely true of the reported Koreans.

 

If this is a regular "sting operation" then it would be worth having a "dicker" at the nightclub - perhaps the doorman or whoever fetches the taxis? Unlikely, on reflection, that the taxi driver was in on it - very difficult to ensure that he gets the right passengers. Quite lucrative though - pull it off two or three times a night, with a take of 20k ore more a hit, and the team ( and quite possibly their bosses) are on a good little earner! 

 

Bad luck hitting on someone with a high enough social media profile to get noticed. Still, keep your heads down for a week or so and it will all die down.

Edited by herfiehandbag
Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Annoys me how the Chinese have English names. I don't have a Thai name and it would be silly if I did

All people in Taiwan learn English in school (not necessarily successfully).

In class,  they chose an English name.  They will use this English name when they communicate with foreigners because foreigners would not be able to pronounce or to remember Chinese names. Their clerical staff cannot even correctly spell them.

Taiwan's economy is built on trade,  mostly with America,  Americans are not known for their proficiency in foreign languages. You want to trade with them, you better learn English and have a name Americans are able to handle. 

 

Thais, in interactions with Westerners, use their nicknames which are easy enough. 

 

BTW foreigners living in Taiwan sometimes need a (self-chosen) Chinese name

  • Like 1
  • Thumbs Up 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 hours ago, Kalasin Jo said:

Interesting point you make there. Does Thailand recognise Taiwan as an independent state or consider it part of China?

Taiwan (Republic of China) is not recognised by Thailand. There are only about a dozen countries that do.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-that-recognize-taiwan

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Confidence level: the elections were fair.

They should've however arrest and fine her for vaping - this has quickly become a menace to the rest of society who doesn't like sucking on embalming fluid. Literally it contains embalming fluid, paint solvent, and various other toxic gasses. And the worst part is *****s think it's harmless candy and will blow it right in your face without even realizing it's poison.

  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I love the way the dynamics of this story have mutated from her being fleeced of 27k for having the wrong visa, to, being fined 27k for illegally vaping in front of them. Interestingly, posters views haven't really shifted that much along with the change in story, everyone is still trying to bash the police. Big sigh.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 1/27/2023 at 5:28 AM, mania said:

Until this banana republic starts actually prosecuting such actions it will continue as usual

 

Not Prayuth will look into it...Not they have been transferred.. But instead prosecute & jailed for X amount of years

That’s only a part of the answer. It’s the whole police system that needs to change. They buy their way in and then, just like the mafia, are required to ‘bung up’. It’s essentially a Ponzi scheme and the more you bung the higher you will go for a proper piece of the action. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, nigelforbes said:

I love the way the dynamics of this story have mutated from her being fleeced of 27k for having the wrong visa, to, being fined 27k for illegally vaping in front of them. Interestingly, posters views haven't really shifted that much along with the change in story, everyone is still trying to bash the police. Big sigh.

All those contradicting stories come from police itself, they are given to media at press conferences. 
We can only comment on what media reported. 
If police was clean they would not change their story every day and they would make public cctv recordings, to support their side. 
They are under pressure from Prayuth, who is trying to force them to come up clean. 
That taiwanese actress has made another social media post lashing at police for fabricating all those stories 

  • Thumbs Up 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

19 minutes ago, internationalism said:

All those contradicting stories come from police itself, they are given to media at press conferences. 
We can only comment on what media reported. 
If police was clean they would not change their story every day and they would make public cctv recordings, to support their side. 
They are under pressure from Prayuth, who is trying to force them to come up clean. 
That taiwanese actress has made another social media post lashing at police for fabricating all those stories 

I think not! I think the story about the visa on arrival came from the young lady herself.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 1/27/2023 at 11:56 AM, Kalasin Jo said:

Interesting point you make there. Does Thailand recognise Taiwan as an independent state or consider it part of China?

Thailand supports the "One China Policy." Thailand is (IMO) province of China.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 1/28/2023 at 10:37 AM, kevin612 said:

Oh yea, she needed to pay more money when she was in the police station.

Was she brought to the police station?

 

There are so many topics running on this, I find it impossible to double-check what is what.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.





×
×
  • Create New...