Social Media Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 CNN — Florida lawmakers on Friday approved an expansion of Gov. Ron DeSantis’ controversial program to relocate migrants, giving the Republican leader authority to transport individuals from anywhere in the country. The measure, now headed to DeSantis’ desk after passing the GOP-led House on a 77-34 vote, would allow his administration to pick up where the governor left off last year when he sent two planes of migrants from San Antonio, Texas, to Martha’s Vineyard, Massachusetts. The attention-grabbing act thrust DeSantis into the middle of the national debate on immigration, earning the potential 2024 hopeful praise from conservatives and widespread condemnation from migrant advocacy groups and the White House.
heybruce Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 "The legislation passed on Friday would “facilitate the transport of inspected unauthorized aliens within the United States.” Unauthorized aliens include individuals who have “documentation from the United States Government indicating that the United States Government processed and released him or her into the United States without admitting the individual in accordance with the federal Immigration and Nationality Act,” according to the bill." https://news.yahoo.com/florida-legislature-passes-bill-approving-210839986.html In other words, Florida taxpayers will now pay for future DeSantis campaign stunts of sending agents anywhere in the country, rounding up immigrants, and shipping them somewhere else in the country. This does not benefit Florida or the US in the least, but it will keep DeSantis's name in the news and ensure future Faux News appearances. 2
thaibeachlovers Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 Sounds reasonable to me. Send them from a place that doesn't want them to somewhere that does. I think we can assume that Democrat states like California and New York want them, given their pro immigrant statements in the past. 2 1
Popular Post heybruce Posted February 14, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 14, 2023 21 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Sounds reasonable to me. Send them from a place that doesn't want them to somewhere that does. I think we can assume that Democrat states like California and New York want them, given their pro immigrant statements in the past. What is reasonable about Florida taxpayers paying to shuffle immigrants between states hundreds of miles away from Florida. This clearly is DeSantis using taxpayer money to fund election stunts. 3
Popular Post Jingthing Posted February 14, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 14, 2023 Florida Men doing their thing. It won't play nationally. 2 1
EVENKEEL Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 4 hours ago, heybruce said: What is reasonable about Florida taxpayers paying to shuffle immigrants between states hundreds of miles away from Florida. This clearly is DeSantis using taxpayer money to fund election stunts. For starters, their not immigrants. Migrants at best and what's wrong with a ticket to a state like NY where they'll be given a 4-5 star hotel room. https://nypost.com/2022/10/12/luxury-row-nyc-hotel-to-house-hundreds-of-migrant-families/ Isn't it better to ship the problem out of state to sanctuary cities like NY than to keep them instate and continue paying. Taxpayers lose either way. 2 1 1
bamnutsak Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 On 2/14/2023 at 4:38 AM, thaibeachlovers said: Sounds reasonable to me. Send them from a place that doesn't want them to somewhere that does. Texas --> Martha's Vineyard, MA 1
Popular Post heybruce Posted February 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2023 3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: For starters, their not immigrants. Migrants at best and what's wrong with a ticket to a state like NY where they'll be given a 4-5 star hotel room. https://nypost.com/2022/10/12/luxury-row-nyc-hotel-to-house-hundreds-of-migrant-families/ Isn't it better to ship the problem out of state to sanctuary cities like NY than to keep them instate and continue paying. Taxpayers lose either way. Read the topic article. They are not shipping immigrants out of Florida, they are sending agents to other states to round up immigrants and send them to another state. Immigrants that weren't in Florida and won't be sent to Florida. I assume the hurricane Ian clean-up using immigrants is largely completed, so DeSantis can once again climb on the immigrant bashing bandwagon. Unfortunately for DeSantis, Florida doesn't have as many illegal immigrants arriving as other states, and the ones that are here are usually employed by farmers and businessmen who are DeSantis voters. In order to grand-stand about being tough on illegal immigrants, DeSantis has to send agents to other states to round them up. The legality of this will be challenged in court, so more Florida taxpayer money will be wasted defending an unnecessary policy. How would you feel about your tax money being spent for election stunts for your governor? 3
EVENKEEL Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 4 hours ago, heybruce said: Read the topic article. They are not shipping immigrants out of Florida, they are sending agents to other states to round up immigrants and send them to another state. Immigrants that weren't in Florida and won't be sent to Florida. I assume the hurricane Ian clean-up using immigrants is largely completed, so DeSantis can once again climb on the immigrant bashing bandwagon. Unfortunately for DeSantis, Florida doesn't have as many illegal immigrants arriving as other states, and the ones that are here are usually employed by farmers and businessmen who are DeSantis voters. In order to grand-stand about being tough on illegal immigrants, DeSantis has to send agents to other states to round them up. The legality of this will be challenged in court, so more Florida taxpayer money will be wasted defending an unnecessary policy. How would you feel about your tax money being spent for election stunts for your governor? 12 hours ago, heybruce said: What is reasonable about Florida taxpayers paying to shuffle immigrants between states hundreds of miles away from Florida. This clearly is DeSantis using taxpayer money to fund election stunts. I responded, and you deflect. Typical. 2 1 1
Popular Post Berkshire Posted February 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2023 So what's "Meatball Ron" up to? Oh you guys haven't heard? It's Trump's new nickname for DeSantis. The "Ron DeSanctimonious" didn't work too well with the base.....too many syllables. This one may stick. It's already making the rounds on late night shows.... [Trump is reportedly calling DeSantis, a potential 2024 campaign rival, “Meatball Ron” in private.] [“Ooooh I do not like how much I love that,” Colbert confessed. “It’s so dumb and accurate.”] https://www.yahoo.com/news/dumb-accurate-stephen-colbert-loves-063518199.html 2 1
Jingthing Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Berkshire said: So what's "Meatball Ron" up to? Oh you guys haven't heard? It's Trump's new nickname for DeSantis. The "Ron DeSanctimonious" didn't work too well with the base.....too many syllables. This one may stick. It's already making the rounds on late night shows.... [Trump is reportedly calling DeSantis, a potential 2024 campaign rival, “Meatball Ron” in private.] [“Ooooh I do not like how much I love that,” Colbert confessed. “It’s so dumb and accurate.”] https://www.yahoo.com/news/dumb-accurate-stephen-colbert-loves-063518199.html That's a one not at all spicy meatball. It's also a slur for Italian. http://www.rsdb.org/race/italians 2
riclag Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 Florida besides being hot has no individual income tax ! Best to send them out to dem states were they could use tax payers funds to accommodate them . “On the flip side, those who want governments to help shape society — and support investments in education or infrastructure — might favor an income tax”. . https://www.bankrate.com/taxes/state-with-no-income-tax-better-or-worse/ 1 1
heybruce Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 16 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: 12 hours ago, heybruce said: What is reasonable about Florida taxpayers paying to shuffle immigrants between states hundreds of miles away from Florida. This clearly is DeSantis using taxpayer money to fund election stunts. I responded, and you deflect. Typical. You responded with nonsense, and are still avoiding the key question: Why should Florida taxpayers pay to send immigrants from Texas to New York, Massachusetts, or anywhere else? 1
Popular Post Tug Posted February 16, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 16, 2023 Gee I sure wish old meat face could worry about Florida’s problems instead of hunting the destitute in other states to create more problems in other states at taxpayer expense no less hey meat head how about a little legislation in your own state to help out your own people that’s what you are supposed to be doing what a dirt bag! 3
EVENKEEL Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 50 minutes ago, heybruce said: You responded with nonsense, and are still avoiding the key question: Why should Florida taxpayers pay to send immigrants from Texas to New York, Massachusetts, or anywhere else? What would the cost of housing, medical care and schooling cost the taxpayer? Is that fair? Seems like a bus ticket is saving boat loads of money. 1 1 1
heybruce Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 14 hours ago, riclag said: Florida besides being hot has no individual income tax ! Best to send them out to dem states were they could use tax payers funds to accommodate them . “On the flip side, those who want governments to help shape society — and support investments in education or infrastructure — might favor an income tax”. . https://www.bankrate.com/taxes/state-with-no-income-tax-better-or-worse/ You haven't been paying attention. Florida hasn't been shipping migrants from Florida. Please try to keep up. 2
heybruce Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: What would the cost of housing, medical care and schooling cost the taxpayer? Is that fair? Seems like a bus ticket is saving boat loads of money. You seem totally confused about what is going on. Florida is not shipping migrants out of Florida to other states, it is going into other states uninvited and rounding up migrants to ship to other states. Why is it so difficult for you to grasp that? 1 1
Tug Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 42 minutes ago, heybruce said: You haven't been paying attention. Florida hasn't been shipping migrants from Florida. Please try to keep up. You might have broken through the maga glasses for a second,did he actually comprehend for a fleeting second how utterly ridiculous what DeSantis is doing?anyway kudos to you heybruce I to find it utterly ridiculous 1
EVENKEEL Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 4 hours ago, heybruce said: You seem totally confused about what is going on. Florida is not shipping migrants out of Florida to other states, it is going into other states uninvited and rounding up migrants to ship to other states. Why is it so difficult for you to grasp that? I's say Texas has a debt to Florida. Not sure what is wrong with Fla. being so generous. 1
heybruce Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said: I's say Texas has a debt to Florida. Not sure what is wrong with Fla. being so generous. It's not generosity, it's fraudulent use of taxpayer money to fund election stunts for DeSantis. If Texas wants this "generosity" from Florida, why hasn't Governor Abbot or anyone else in Texas asked for it?
EVENKEEL Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, heybruce said: It's not generosity, it's fraudulent use of taxpayer money to fund election stunts for DeSantis. If Texas wants this "generosity" from Florida, why hasn't Governor Abbot or anyone else in Texas asked for it? How do you know they haven't. 1
heybruce Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 59 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: How do you know they haven't. Because the publicity hound DeSantis would have advertised the invite at every opportunity. 1
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