Asylum Seekers Questioner

[roo860]

https://news.sky.com/story/what-is-asked-in-the-20-day-questionnaire-asylum-seekers-must-fill-out-under-fast-track-plan-12817696

[steve187]

i hope it thins out the amount that get granted asylum, like 100%

[proton]

Friend in the UK used to process asylum claims 20 years ago. She said 95% are liars with made up stories which were mostly all the same and almost impossible to verify. The men usually claimed their life's were at risk and the women it was risk of rape, also they usually threw away passports and documents to claim they were from other countries than their own. Looks like the UK and Ireland are still falling for it. Who on earth is going to tick yes to have you ever been a terrorist, laughable.

[JayClay]

33 minutes ago, proton said:

Friend in the UK used to process asylum claims 20 years ago. She said 95% are liars with made up stories which were mostly all the same and almost impossible to verify

If their claims were impossible to verify, how on earth can she go on to conclude that 95% of them were liars?

Edited February 24, 2023 by JayClay

[proton]

1 minute ago, JayClay said:

If their claims were impossible to verify, how on earth can she go on to conclude that 95% of them were liars?

Because she was an illegal immigrant herself at first from Africa and knew all the stories they were prepped with and was familiar with the system inside out. She got a job as an illegal and within months a housing assoc flat in London when single British people then were waiting for years. Arrested she still kept the flat and managed to stay when the court believed her story of 'persecution' unchecked of course, just needed a good barrister. Since then Brit passport and 500k pound home in London. 

[JayClay]

28 minutes ago, proton said:

Because she was an illegal immigrant herself at first from Africa and knew all the stories they were prepped with and was familiar with the system inside out. She got a job as an illegal and within months a housing assoc flat in London when single British people then were waiting for years. Arrested she still kept the flat and managed to stay when the court believed her story of 'persecution' unchecked of course, just needed a good barrister. Since then Brit passport and 500k pound home in London. 

None of this explains how she apparently is able to brand an "unverifiable" story as true or false. Unless you think it's acceptable to consider an unverifiable story as untrue. In which case, your story fits the criteria just perfectly.

[userabcd]

Ha, all valid questions to weed out 99.9% of the economic migrants.

 

Also:

"Did you seek help from the authorities in your country of origin:

• Did you approach authorities in your country of origin, such as the police, or other organisations, such as tribal leaders or local politicians, to see if they could assist you?

• If so, what was the result?

• If not, why did you choose not to approach these parties?"

 

They should also require names to all the people with whom they sought help in their home countries so their claims could be investigated and verified.

 

Governments on the whole are mostly dictatorial and authoritarian. Do not know why they put up with so much nonsense.

Edited February 24, 2023 by userabcd

[quake]

1 hour ago, JayClay said:

If their claims were impossible to verify, how on earth can she go on to conclude that 95% of them were liars?

I will just go for my gut felling on this issue. 100%.

Now load them all up on ships and dump the lot on the beaches of France.

 

 

[JayClay]

1 hour ago, quake said:

I will just go for my gut felling on this issue. 100%.

Now load them all up on ships and dump the lot on the beaches of France.

 

 

We can't send them to France anymore since we failed to sign up to a returns agreement when we left the EU.

 

"Gut feeling"s are what caused this whole mess to begin with.

Edited February 24, 2023 by JayClay

[quake]

1 hour ago, JayClay said:

We can't send them to France anymore since we failed to sign up to a returns agreement when we left the EU.

 

"Gut feeling"s are what caused this whole mess to begin with.

Who said anything about asking the EU.

Just do it and argue about it latter.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

6 hours ago, steve187 said:

i hope it thins out the amount that get granted asylum, like 100%

It’s not 100%
 

https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/511/recent-change-in-the-uk-asylum-grant-rate

[Chomper Higgot]

6 hours ago, proton said:

Friend in the UK used to process asylum claims 20 years ago. She said 95% are liars with made up stories which were mostly all the same and almost impossible to verify. The men usually claimed their life's were at risk and the women it was risk of rape, also they usually threw away passports and documents to claim they were from other countries than their own. Looks like the UK and Ireland are still falling for it. Who on earth is going to tick yes to have you ever been a terrorist, laughable.

You are entire correct in what you say, “almost impossible to verify”.

[Chomper Higgot]

5 hours ago, proton said:

Because she was an illegal immigrant herself at first from Africa and knew all the stories they were prepped with and was familiar with the system inside out. She got a job as an illegal and within months a housing assoc flat in London when single British people then were waiting for years. Arrested she still kept the flat and managed to stay when the court believed her story of 'persecution' unchecked of course, just needed a good barrister. Since then Brit passport and 500k pound home in London. 

My goodness.

 

One single person you know who manages to hit all the right wing anti immigrant tropes in one go.

 

 

[proton]

16 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

My goodness.

 

One single person you know who manages to hit all the right wing anti immigrant tropes in one go.

 

 

Those against illegal immigration and lying asylum seekers are not right wing, they are just sick of one government after another who promised to reduce it, then do nothing but talk. Sending a few to Rwanda would not reduce the numbers at all as we have to take the same numbers from there, total farce.

Edited February 24, 2023 by proton

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, proton said:

Those against illegal immigration and lying asylum seekers are not right wing, they are just sick of one government after another who promised to reduce it, then do nothing but talk. Sending a few to Rwanda would not reduce the numbers at all as we have to take the same numbers from there, total farce.

It wasn’t a general comment.

 

But you are correct, it’s the Government’s fault.

 

Makes me wonder if they want to fix the problem, or is it more useful to them to distract voters from all their other failings?

 

 

 

[JayClay]

2 hours ago, quake said:

Who said anything about asking the EU.

Just do it and argue about it latter.

If you're not going to even try to make any rational arguments then there's not really much point in pursuing this particular "discussion" any further.

[proton]

The farcical asylum 'test'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11785927/Have-involved-terrorism-fast-track-questionnaire-handed-asylum-seekers.html

[quake]

Problem with the UK is to many lefty do gooders.

Sounds like one could be one on this thread.

 

The total number of recorded migrants crossing in 2022 was 45,756.  just Outrageous.

 

Maybe one or two real asylum seekers.

It's time to stop the BS paper work, and just send them back.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

33 minutes ago, proton said:

The farcical asylum 'test'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11785927/Have-involved-terrorism-fast-track-questionnaire-handed-asylum-seekers.html

It must bad if the DM are criticizing the Government.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, quake said:

Problem with the UK is to many lefty do gooders.

Sounds like one could be one on this thread.

 

The total number of recorded migrants crossing in 2022 was 45,756.  just Outrageous.

 

Maybe one or two real asylum seekers.

It's time to stop the BS paper work, and just send them back.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please explain how after 12 years of Tory Government, ‘lefty do gooders’ hold any responsibility for the mess the Tories have made of the immigration and asylum system?

 

 

[quake]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Please explain how after 12 years of Tory Government, ‘lefty do gooders’ hold any responsibility for the mess the Tories have made of the immigration and asylum system?

 

 

Just sounding off at the madness in the uk. 

but they do bow to lefty pressure about this issue.

 

But more to the point get these illegal people out of the uk.

 

Edited February 24, 2023 by quake

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, quake said:

Just sounding off at the madness in the uk. 

but they do bow to lefty pressure about this issue.

 

But more to the point get these illegal people out of the uk.

 

The start point is to correctly identify where the blame lies - with this failed Government.

 

The have a massive majority it Parliament, they don’t bow to any ‘pressure’.

 

They are simply failing.

 

 

[quake]

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The start point is to correctly identify where the blame lies - with this failed Government.

The have a massive majority it Parliament, they don’t bow to any ‘pressure’.

They are simply failing.

Yes I agree.

 

But, why did the 747 airplanes not take off loaded with illegal immigrants to Rwanda ? 

 

Most government officials have failed us all,  on many levels.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, quake said:

Yes I agree.

 

But, why did the 747 airplanes not take off loaded with illegal immigrants to Rwanda ? 

 

Most government officials have failed us all,  on many levels.

 

I’ll hazard a guess that it had something to do with the Government enacting policies that are in breach of the law.

[quake]

16 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ll hazard a guess that it had something to do with the Government enacting policies that are in breach of the law.

 Yes the European Court of Human Rights.

doing good things. 

For illegal immigrants in the uk.

 

Load them up and just do a flyby , no need to land.

[Chomper Higgot]

15 minutes ago, quake said:

 Yes the European Court of Human Rights.

doing good things. 

For illegal immigrants in the uk.

 

Load them up and just do a flyby , no need to land.

You’ve been very well misdirected.

 

 

 

[quake]

15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You’ve been very well misdirected.

Ok.

So what's your answer to the problem of 45,000 plus illegal immigrants in the uk last year ?

and please don't start going on about Tories.

Tell us what you would do.

 

 

Edited February 24, 2023 by quake

[Chomper Higgot]

43 minutes ago, quake said:

Ok.

So what's your answer to the problem of 45,000 plus illegal immigrants in the uk last year ?

and please don't start going on about Tories.

Tell us what you would do.

 

 

I would start by rejoining the Dublin Regulations, withdrawal from which precipitated the increase in asylum seeking migration to the UK.

 

Many of these migrants have already had their asylum applications rejected elsewhere by signatory nations to the Dublin Regulations and would therefore have been deported or subject to deportation under those regulations.

 

Unfortunately, somebody who you wish not to be mentioned, chose to remove the UK from the Dublin Regulations, a huge increase in asylum seeking migration to the UK followed.

 

 

Edited February 24, 2023 by Chomper Higgot

[quake]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I would start by rejoining the Dublin Regulations, withdrawal from which precipitated the increase in asylum seeking migration to the UK.

 

Many of these migrants have already had their asylum applications rejected elsewhere by signatory nations to the Dublin Regulations and would therefore have been deported or subject to deportation under those regulations.

 

Unfortunately, somebody who you wish not to be mentioned, chose to remove the UK from the Dublin Regulations, a huge increase in asylum seeking migration to the UK followed.

 

Ok

So that will stop it all.

I don't think so, some how.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, quake said:

Ok

So that will stop it all.

I don't think so, some how.

 

Who said it would ‘stop all’ asylum seeking migrants coming to the UK?

 

If anyone tells you tgey can do that they are lying through their teeth.