Social Media Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak is to fly to California later to discuss key details of a new defence agreement with his Australian and US counterparts. The 2021 Aukus pact aims to counter what the three nations see as China's threat in the Indo-Pacific region. At the time, China condemned the agreement as "extremely irresponsible". The meeting with US President Joe Biden and Australian PM Anthony Albanese is expected to agree the supply of nuclear powered submarines to Australia. Speaking ahead of the talks in San Diego, Mr Sunak said the UK's global alliances were "our greatest source of strength and security". During the trip - Mr Sunak's first to the US as PM - he is also set to unveil the UK's new integrated review of defence and foreign policy, which have been updated after Russia's invasion of Ukraine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) So for revealing new military and foreign policy he is flying to the usa, and not presenting it to parliament first for discussion and critique? How much he values the parliament with elected representatives in his own country to politicians and military generals in a foreign country? As he was not elected to his post by popular vote, he is stretching his position. That lapdog position will be judged against Tories. australia has already nuclear capable b52 on its soil since the last year and it's judged by experts as a provocative move against china. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-31/china-tensions-taiwan-us-military-deploy-bombers-to-australia/101585380 now america wants to sell nuclear submarines. That will also be another provocation against china. They are tryring to circle china with nuclear capable arms. Before b52 were located in australia, that country, as well as new zealand, were seen as safe nuclear refuge in case of armageddon. But now australia will become a target for nukes. Yes, that country is the whole continent, but targets are not only military, also industrial ones. That haeven is now turning into hxll in case of a global boom Edited March 13, 2023 by internationalism 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelagicpete Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 24 minutes ago, internationalism said: So for revealing new military and foreign policy he is flying to the usa, and not presenting it to parliament first for discussion and critique? How much he values the parliament with elected representatives in his own country to politicians and military generals in a foreign country? As he was not elected to his post by popular vote, he is stretching his position. That lapdog position will be judged against Tories. australia has already nuclear capable b52 on its soil since the last year and it's judged by experts as a provocative move against china. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-31/china-tensions-taiwan-us-military-deploy-bombers-to-australia/101585380 now america wants to sell nuclear submarines. That will also be another provocation against china. Before b52 were located in australia, that country, as well as new zealand, were seen as safe nuclear refuge in case of armageddon. But now australia will become a target for nukes. Yes, that country is the whole continent, but targets are not only military, also industrial ones. That haeven is now turning into hxll This is obviously written by Communist supporters for China. It suggests 'appeasement', "don't provoke China", and we know, after the last World War, how effective that is. I still have scars from the bombed out housing estates after the last experience of 'appeasement' that was Chamberlain's "Peace in our time". Sadly for us the only viable response to interstate bullying on both sides of the world is to stay strong and build an effective, forceful stepping up of regional defence. That is exactly what is happening now on both sides of the world. The reply to our response from the countries that are now aggressive is the same; namely 'you are provoking us', 'we are being attacked', 'we must defend ourselves', 'we want respect', etc etc. There is always a percentage of people in the West who will buy into this rhetoric and quote it against our defence activities. Just pray that our government's defensive strategic initiatives do not deviate as a result or you too and your children may carry the scars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Anything that helps to stem the aggression of China in the Indo-Pacific region is a good thing. Hopefully Biden will do us the honour of learning our PM's name this time. Referring to Rishi Sunak as Rashid Sanook really does not instill confidence in his cognitive functions. Come on Joe, it's only 2 words. Not too hard to remember. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted March 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Anything that helps to stem the aggression of China in the Indo-Pacific region is a good thing. Hopefully Biden will do us the honour of learning our PM's name this time. Referring to Rishi Sunak as Rashid Sanook really does not instill confidence in his cognitive functions. Come on Joe, it's only 2 words. Not too hard to remember. What an empty cheap shot. Biden has confronted the Chinese far. far more strongly than any previous administration since Richard Nixon's tenure. I guess you must be desperate to find any grounds for criticism. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 5 hours ago, placeholder said: What an empty cheap shot. Biden has confronted the Chinese far. far more strongly than any previous administration since Richard Nixon's tenure. I guess you must be desperate to find any grounds for criticism. You're joking, of course...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted March 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: You're joking, of course...? I can only shudder to think of how restricted your news diet must be if you actually questioned my comment. ‘A sea change’: Biden reverses decades of Chinese trade policy After decades of U.S. efforts to engage China with the prospect of greater development through trade, the era of cooperation is coming to a screeching halt. The White House and Congress are quietly reshaping the American economic relationship with the world’s second-largest economic power, enacting a strategy to limit China’s technological development that breaks with decades of federal policy and represents the most aggressive American action yet to curtail Beijing’s economic and military rise.'' “[The Biden] administration views Chinese indigenous innovation as a per se national security threat ... and that is a big leap from where we’ve ever been before.” https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/26/china-trade-tech-00072232 Biden Is Now All-In on Taking Out China The U.S. president has committed to rapid decoupling, whatever the consequences. In short, America’s restrictionists—zero-sum thinkers who urgently want to accelerate technological decoupling—have won the strategy debate inside the Biden administration. More cautious voices—technocrats and centrists who advocate incremental curbs on select aspects of China’s tech ties—have lost. This shift portends even harsher U.S. measures to come, not only in advanced computing but also in other sectors (like biotech, manufacturing, and finance) deemed strategic. https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/10/12/biden-china-semiconductor-chips-exports-decouple/ US military will defend Taiwan 'if it comes to that,' Biden says Biden said he would keep America's 'commitment' to Taiwan if it faced a Ukraine situation https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-troops-defend-taiwan-china-invades-biden 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Trading with China was Kissinger's idea to win the cold war by letting China get a taste of the good life economically. It helped. Now the west needs to play good cop bad cop. China wants to be belligerent then they don't get to eat at the economic trough that has made them since Nixon. Some cold winters are ahead for Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 23 hours ago, internationalism said: So for revealing new military and foreign policy he is flying to the usa, and not presenting it to parliament first for discussion and critique? How much he values the parliament with elected representatives in his own country to politicians and military generals in a foreign country? As he was not elected to his post by popular vote, he is stretching his position. That lapdog position will be judged against Tories. The issue has been discussed in the House. Whether Sunak was under a moral obligation to call a general election is obviously down to subjective opinion, but he was under no legal obligation to do so. https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2021-09-16/debates/4835BC3D-E0BF-43E0-9A3B-9BCC5B77DF7F/AUKUS?utm_source=HOC+Library+-+Current+awareness+bulletins&utm_campaign=94c19a9737-Current_Awareness_IADS_17_09_2021&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f325cdbfdc-94c19a9737-103727630&mc_cid=94c19a9737&mc_eid=a8bed5b782#contribution-747B9DA5-2564-4787-B6BA-1ECA38F322C2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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