What to make of Kim Jong Un and North Korea's barrage of weapon tests

[Social Media]

Admittedly it is hard to keep track of North Korea's missile launches these days.

Especially when they fire a weapon almost every other day, as we have seen over the past fortnight.

The launches in isolation no longer generate the headlines they used to, but if we look at the latest tests all together there is much we can learn.

North Korea says it is punishing the US and South Korea for holding their largest military drills in years. The allies have been practising how to defeat the North in the event of an attack. This is not a scenario its leader Kim Jong Un relishes.

Only this is not a typical North Korean protest. In the past it has responded to such drills by firing off a mix of short, medium, and long-range missiles, and perhaps some artillery shells.

• What do we know about North Korea?

[vandeventer]

Kim is lonely and misses Trump! Maybe if Trump was in power all 3 counties could test their missiles together and there would be no war games. 

[candide]

17 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Kim is lonely and misses Trump! Maybe if Trump was in power all 3 counties could test their missiles together and there would be no war games. 

NK started its new missile test program in May 2019

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_Korean_missile_tests

[Mac Mickmanus]

30 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Kim is lonely and misses Trump! Maybe if Trump was in power all 3 counties could test their missiles together and there would be no war games. 

Got the obligatory Trump mention in in the first reply, well done for that 

[riclag]

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Got the obligatory Trump mention in in the first reply, well done for that 

Sure do miss the former Potus deescalation attempts  with rocket man . The world in general was a much safer place  compared to now,under this moron. I wonder if rocket man would ever consider meeting 46.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/03/01/trump-admin-to-end-major-military-exercises-with-south-korea-report/

[Phoenix Rising]

7 minutes ago, riclag said:

Sure do miss the former Potus deescalation attempts  with rocket man . The world in general was a much safer place  compared to now,under this moron. I wonder if rocket man would ever consider meeting 46.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/03/01/trump-admin-to-end-major-military-exercises-with-south-korea-report/

Meeting someone who will stand up to him instead of a slobbering fanboy?

Certainly not. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Meeting someone who will stand up to him instead of a slobbering fanboy?

Certainly not. 

Lets keep it factual 

Trump went to meet Kim , Biden hasn't gone to meet Kim.

Trump faced the issue head on, Bidens probably mumbling incoherently back in the White house about something or other 

[Phoenix Rising]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Lets keep it factual 

Trump went to meet Kim , Biden hasn't gone to meet Kim.

Trump faced the issue head on, Bidens probably mumbling incoherently back in the White house about something or other 

"Lets keep it factual."

When one of the MAGA fanboys says something like this it's impossible for me not to LOL.

[Bkk Brian]

17 minutes ago, riclag said:

Sure do miss the former Potus deescalation attempts  with rocket man . The world in general was a much safer place  compared to now,under this moron. I wonder if rocket man would ever consider meeting 46.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/03/01/trump-admin-to-end-major-military-exercises-with-south-korea-report/

The love letters didn't work, Trump walked away.........

 

North Korea said it had made "realistic proposals" at the summit.

The two leaders had been expected to announce progress on denuclearisation.

"Sometimes you have to walk and this was one of those times," Mr Trump said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47398974

[xylophone]

45 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Got the obligatory Trump mention in in the first reply, well done for that 

What do you expect, because it was posted by a trump supporter!!

 

And on the subject of what to make of Kim Jong un and the weapons tests; I believe it's because he is being ignored, coupled with the fact that the vast majority in his country is starving, so in doing this he is hoping that one of the major powers will "negotiate" a deal to stop him testing his weapons, and provide him with funds and food.

 

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1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Lets keep it factual 

Trump went to meet Kim , Biden hasn't gone to meet Kim.

Trump faced the issue head on, Bidens probably mumbling incoherently back in the White house about something or other 

If by facing the issue head on you mean giving Kim the attention and respect he craved, then yes.

[vandeventer]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

Sure do miss the former Potus deescalation attempts  with rocket man . The world in general was a much safer place  compared to now,under this moron. I wonder if rocket man would ever consider meeting 46.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/03/01/trump-admin-to-end-major-military-exercises-with-south-korea-report/

Maybe for a ice cream or two?

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1 hour ago, riclag said:

Sure do miss the former Potus deescalation attempts  with rocket man . The world in general was a much safer place  compared to now,under this moron. I wonder if rocket man would ever consider meeting 46.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/03/01/trump-admin-to-end-major-military-exercises-with-south-korea-report/

Not if Kim has as little to offer to Biden as he did to Trump. I will say this for Trump though. Unlike in his business history, he only lost a little in the negotiations with Kim.

[Mac Mickmanus]

7 minutes ago, placeholder said:

If by facing the issue head on you mean giving Kim the attention and respect he craved, then yes.

Its better to talk to people and seek a compromise , rather than fighting wars . 

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2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Its better to talk to people and seek a compromise , rather than fighting wars . 

If they've got something to offer. But you don't give someone like Kim an audience with the POTUS in exchange for nothing. That's what subordinates are for. Just another empty, grandiose negotiating failure.

[Mac Mickmanus]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

If they've got something to offer. But you don't give someone like Kim an audience with the POTUS in exchange for nothing. That's what subordinates are for. Just another empty, grandiose negotiating failure.

Does Kamala Harris have any plans to meet with Kim and to continue the dialogue started by Trump and seek a peaceful solution ?

[Eric Loh]

14 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Does Kamala Harris have any plans to meet with Kim and to continue the dialogue started by Trump and seek a peaceful solution ?

Twice meeting were held between 2018-2019 when Trump had warm loving rekationship with Kim and twice broke down. Meeting was over in a day. Trump was seeking publicity not peace. He did nothing to progress any peace with North Korea.

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

Twice meeting were held between 2018-2019 when Trump had warm loving rekationship with Kim and twice broke down. Meeting was over in a day. Trump was seeking publicity not peace. He did nothing to progress any peace with North Korea.

It was Kim who refused to accept the terms offered and he wouldn't sign the papers , Trump tried to convince Kim to agree to the terms . 

   Had Kim agreed to the terms , there would have been a signed peace deal . 

   Trump wasn't successful in getting a peace agreement signed , but it certainly wasn't  publicity stunt , it was a genuine attempt at getting a peace agreement signed 

[Eric Loh]

3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

It was Kim who refused to accept the terms offered and he wouldn't sign the papers , Trump tried to convince Kim to agree to the terms . 

   Had Kim agreed to the terms , there would have been a signed peace deal . 

   Trump wasn't successful in getting a peace agreement signed , but it certainly wasn't  publicity stunt , it was a genuine attempt at getting a peace agreement signed 

What peace terms were offered by Trump? The only offer was to take Kim home on Air Force One. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

7 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

What peace terms were offered by Trump? The only offer was to take Kim home on Air Force One. 

It was a private meeting and I wasn't invited , so I don't know the details of the discussion 

[Eric Loh]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

It was a private meeting and I wasn't invited , so I don't know the details of the discussion 

Meeting ended with the usual routine run of the mill joint statement about follow-up negotiation. That's it. No peace terms and neither was Trump involved in follow-up talks. Really a much published meeting that ended with a whimper. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Meeting ended with the usual routine run of the mill joint statement about follow-up negotiation. That's it. No peace terms and neither was Trump involved in follow-up talks. Really a much published meeting that ended with a whimper. 

Trump left his job as President so there were no more meetings between the two  .

   Kim refused to sign the agreement 

[Tug]

4 hours ago, riclag said:

Sure do miss the former Potus deescalation attempts  with rocket man . The world in general was a much safer place  compared to now,under this moron. I wonder if rocket man would ever consider meeting 46.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/03/01/trump-admin-to-end-major-military-exercises-with-south-korea-report/

Really?fell in love?really?to me the most telling part of trumps attempted (insert whatever it was) is when the imbecile saluted the n korean general ,if you watch that spectacle closely you will see for a split second Kim’s face light up with the realization that trump has been had .trump flushed years of negotiations and sanctions down the toilet for a photo op absolutely nothing was gained nothing America was humiliated yet again so I guess little Kim gained something hummm?

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4 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

It was Kim who refused to accept the terms offered and he wouldn't sign the papers , Trump tried to convince Kim to agree to the terms . 

   Had Kim agreed to the terms , there would have been a signed peace deal . 

   Trump wasn't successful in getting a peace agreement signed , but it certainly wasn't  publicity stunt , it was a genuine attempt at getting a peace agreement signed 

Can you share with us a link to the agreement you claim is embodied in certain papers? I can't find evidence of that. The only signing I know of is the Singapore Agreement which was empty of any concrete significance. And Kim and Trump did sign that.

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 hours ago, Tug said:

Really?fell in love?really?to me the most telling part of trumps attempted (insert whatever it was) is when the imbecile saluted the n korean general ,if you watch that spectacle closely you will see for a split second Kim’s face light up with the realization that trump has been had .trump flushed years of negotiations and sanctions down the toilet for a photo op absolutely nothing was gained nothing America was humiliated yet again so I guess little Kim gained something hummm?

It is official protocol to behave in a dignified way  .

Would you have applauded Trump of if had stuck his middle finger up to Kim and called him all sorts of rude names , maybe threw a few pot plants at him in full view of the media ?

[Tug]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

It is official protocol to behave in a dignified way  .

Would you have applauded Trump of if had stuck his middle finger up to Kim and called him all sorts of rude names , maybe threw a few pot plants at him in full view of the media ?

Trump wouldent know protocols if they fell on his head that particular incident was the most (to me) visible example of his utter ignorance of protocol on that particular fiasco other than being up on kims leg like a puppy ???? dog remember when he said no more war games (practice) with s Korea remember?for absolutely nothing gained?nothing!just flushing years of sanctions down the toilet.

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, Tug said:

Trump wouldent know protocols if they fell on his head that particular incident was the most (to me) visible example of his utter ignorance of protocol on that particular fiasco other than being up on kims leg like a puppy ???? dog remember when he said no more war games (practice) with s Korea remember?for absolutely nothing gained?nothing!just flushing years of sanctions down the toilet.

So, how should Trump have publicly greeted Kim when he first met him ?

  (Taking into consideration that the two were about to engage in a meeting that Trump hoped would end in an agreement ?) 

[Fat is a type of crazy]

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[Homburg]

All of Mr Kim's missiles are aimed at the sea.  I guess he must really hate fish.

[tandor]

16 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Kim is lonely and misses Trump! Maybe if Trump was in power all 3 counties could test their missiles together and there would be no war games. 

he must be getting low on all the old stock by now..time for his underwater drones