NY grand jury votes to indict Donald Trump, sources tell CNN

[LaosLover]

1 minute ago, jerrymahoney said:

In the context of jury selection, "peers" is mostly a matter of geography. Whatever crimes Mr. Trump is eventually charged with, they took place in New York City at the Trump offices; not in western Kansas where many counties voted 90% for Trump in 2020.

Trump is trying to move his trial to more republican Staten Island. Chances: Snowball in Hell. Seems a little desperate.

 

I come from Staten Island, more love for him there, but the population is mostly civil service and cops, due to the residency requirements for those jobs.

 

You know, big government, teat-sucking RINO's.

[Berkshire]

43 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Not an error IMO. Far as I'm concerned it's all just about stopping Trump standing for election. They've tried all the big things like being on Putin's payroll etc and failed dismally, so now they are going for anything that will eliminate him from contention.

 

I don't understand why you guys keep repeating this bogus claim.  Just about every Dem would love Trump to be the GOP nominee.  Especially Papa Joe, who'd welcome the chance to stomp Trump again.  Trump may be the only Republican that President Biden can easily trounce.  Now if you were to say that there are Republicans who don't want Trump to run again, you would have a point.

 

 

 

 

[LaosLover]

As long as I'm killing time waiting for my cab to the airport, let me ask (again) about one of life's great mysteries:

 

Why do brits and commonwealth types care so much about US politics?

 

The last brit controversy I felt the need to have an opinion on was Oasis versus Blur (I voted Oasis, but I was a heavy drinker back then).

 

I've long given up on asking "why do you turkeys voting for Christmas love someone who wouldn't deign to spit on your chav self and would take away your healthcare in a heartbeat?".

 

Always radio-silence on that one.

Edited April 2, 2023 by LaosLover

[LosLobo]

28 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 Did he actually do anything bad other than run around shouting? If he

did it must have been off camera, as I didn't see it.

You only saw what Tucker wanted you to see.

 

Reasonable viewers saw Jan 6th differently.

 

Fox News won a court case by 'persuasively' arguing that no 'reasonable viewer' takes Tucker Carlson seriously.

 

Fox Wins McDougal Case, Argues No One Takes Tucker Carlson Seriously (businessinsider.com)

 

[LaosLover]

Why didn't man of principle, Shaman-head, plead innocent?

 

Rightie response: "He was forced to plead guilty, forced, I tell you".

 

Outrage when this happens to a black kid caught with a spliff: "HANG HIM!!!!".

 

The charges against the Shaman are certainly google-able. Rightie amnesia and helplessness again predictably descends like red mist.

Edited April 2, 2023 by LaosLover

[LaosLover]

Maybe they could give him a bigger cell and let him cook is own meals like in Goodfella's.

 

Milania on the subject of conjugal visits: "I'm uh, a little busy".

 

Ivanka: "I support my Dad and love the American people. I'm a little busy too. And I'm his preferred sex provider. Don't they let them have hand lotion in prison?".

Edited April 2, 2023 by LaosLover

[vandeventer]

On 3/31/2023 at 2:07 PM, Phoenix Rising said:

Among 160 years of presidential scandals, Trump stands alone

What are you scared of? Trump is just a rich man trying to MAGA

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, LaosLover said:

As long as I'm killing time waiting for my cab to the airport, let me ask (again) about one of life's great mysteries:

 

Why do brits and commonwealth types care so much about US politics?

 

The last brit controversy I felt the need to have an opinion on was Oasis versus Blur (I voted Oasis, but I was a heavy drinker back then).

 

I've long given up on asking "why do you turkeys voting for Christmas love someone who wouldn't deign to spit on your chav self and would take away your healthcare in a heartbeat?".

 

Always radio-silence on that one.

US politics determine the value of the USD, and hence the value of the AUD.

The US maintains top secret bases in Australia, at Pine Gap and North-West Cape. A US Marine base in Darwin.

Financially, the USA is the biggest foreign investor in Australia.

We buy most of our military equipment from the US.

Our population is 26 million. Our nearest neighbor, Indonesia, has a population of 281 million.

 

Why wouldn't we be interested?

[Fat is a type of crazy]

1 hour ago, LaosLover said:

As long as I'm killing time waiting for my cab to the airport, let me ask (again) about one of life's great mysteries:

 

Why do brits and commonwealth types care so much about US politics?

 

The last brit controversy I felt the need to have an opinion on was Oasis versus Blur (I voted Oasis, but I was a heavy drinker back then).

 

I've long given up on asking "why do you turkeys voting for Christmas love someone who wouldn't deign to spit on your chav self and would take away your healthcare in a heartbeat?".

 

Always radio-silence on that one.

Couldn't get the plaudits for Oasis. Blur, Pulp, Supergrass so much better from that era.

 

As an Australian I suppose we see many similarities with the United States way of life, big open spaces, and can see little sprouts of right wing Trumpism popping up here and there.

Of course Murdoch is an Australian and he has influenced his newspapers, with some success though not so much recently, to turn voters to the right. There is an Australian version of Fox News being Sky News in Australia that has failed to gain much traction. Australian politics has it's own issues but generally it is relatively civil and sensible and it is harder to get away with telling a lie without being held to account. Think the UK could be similar.

Of course much of our entertainment and news comes from the US. 

So what the big dog America does is always of interest, and one can wonder as to if it can happen in the US, can it happen in Australia.

I actually think Australians in general are a bit more down to earth and level headed politically, and seeing what is happening in the US may have actually helped the Labour party in Australia point out the games the right plays, albeit in a much less extreme way than in the US. 

Edited April 2, 2023 by Fat is a type of crazy

[LaosLover]

3 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

 

I actually think Australians in general are a bit more down to earth and level headed politically

-Agree wholeheartedly.

[ThailandRyan]

39 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

What are you scared of? Trump is just a rich man trying to MAGA

Trying to Make All Gag Again (MAGA), yep your right with that one.

[candide]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Does anyone take a man that wears horns seriously?

 

Did he actually do anything bad other than run around shouting? If he did it must have been off camera, as I didn't see it.

He was convicted for obstructing an official proceeding. Isn't it what he did?

[mighty]

CNN? Really? they just lost 61% of their audience in the last month because of all their nonsense..

[placeholder]

3 minutes ago, mighty said:

CNN? Really? they just lost 61% of their audience in the last month because of all their nonsense..

So, to your way of thinking, ratings are how to determine whether something is factual or not?

[onthedarkside]

Post removed to a satire website, that publishes satirical articles on topics including religion and politics.

[ThailandRyan]

Waiting for the Trump fanatics to try and compare his payoff of Stormy to Clinton's Paula Jones payment.  When they do try to use it here's the article disproving that Bill did the same as Trump. Just trying to get ahead of the fan boys.....

 

https://www-verifythis-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.verifythis.com/amp/article/news/verify/government-verify/bill-clinton-paula-jones-not-hush-money-but-public-settlement-trump-indictment/536-72d4a595-853a-40bd-acd9-b646c9950f80?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From %1%24s&aoh=16804079873377&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.verifythis.com%2Farticle%2Fnews%2Fverify%2Fgovernment-verify%2Fbill-clinton-paula-jones-not-hush-money-but-public-settlement-trump-indictment%2F536-72d4a595-853a-40bd-acd9-b646c9950f80

 

No, Bill Clinton did not pay Paula Jones ‘hush money.’ It was a public settlement.

Some have drawn comparisons between former president Donald Trump’s alleged hush money payments and a settlement Bill Clinton paid in 1998

[In Full Agreement]

On 3/31/2023 at 11:05 AM, Jingthing said:

My understanding and this has of course never been tested is that if elected president while in prison, he would be let out as long as he is president.

 

Since this is all new territory, I'm curious as to where you acquired that understanding.   

 

Do you have any links you can share?

[metisdead]

Some posts that contained content that was copy and pasted from "Oz news" have been removed as there was no supporting link provided. 

 

A post with an animated trolling meme has been removed. 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

4 hours ago, LaosLover said:

As long as I'm killing time waiting for my cab to the airport, let me ask (again) about one of life's great mysteries:

 

Why do brits and commonwealth types care so much about US politics?

 

The last brit controversy I felt the need to have an opinion on was Oasis versus Blur (I voted Oasis, but I was a heavy drinker back then).

 

I've long given up on asking "why do you turkeys voting for Christmas love someone who wouldn't deign to spit on your chav self and would take away your healthcare in a heartbeat?".

 

Always radio-silence on that one.

It’s a good question, here’s my take.

 

Rightwing pro-Trump propaganda is accessible to English language speakers, added to which the UK has a well established and dominant rightwing press supplemented by US cable networks, particularly FOX. Also on the mix are non US/UK propaganda outlets ‘Russia Today’ being the most prominent.

 

Keep in mind much of the rightwing pro-Trump propaganda is disseminated online via social media, immediately accessible to English language speakers,

 

And then there’s the actual Trump supporters themselves. Take a look at US home grown MAGA Supporters, no need to denigrate these people more than Trump already does, but realize the UK has its fair share too.

 

Trump’s only offering is to make people who’ve retreated to fear and hatred feel good about themselves, that’s a message that hits home wherever there’s a bigot stroking their self affirming grievances.

 

 

Edited April 2, 2023 by Chomper Higgot

[robblok]

What i always wonder about is that do people who vote Trump actually like him or is it a case of he is a republican so its the only choice for me even though i know the guy is a huge liar.

 

I mean I cant imagine people really supporting Trump with all his lies. So I am just trying to find an alternative explanation.

 

Just like in Thailand people who hate Thaksin go for Prayut as there is nothing better and the other way around.

[xylophone]

5 minutes ago, robblok said:

What i always wonder about is that do people who vote Trump actually like him or is it a case of he is a republican so its the only choice for me even though i know the guy is a huge liar.

 

I mean I cant imagine people really supporting Trump with all his lies. So I am just trying to find an alternative explanation.

I have been wondering that myself for quite some time, as it is absolutely beyond my comprehension how anybody could vote for someone who is a proven liar, and has been convicted of stealing from a charity, as well as committing adultery despite proclaiming that he is "God-fearing" or similar – – all of which have been proven without a doubt.

 

I've always maintained that I would vote for a candidate who represented my party/political viewpoints, but I draw the line when that particular candidate turns out to be a crook/a POS and has committed other unsavoury actions.

 

So why do people support a person like this, and getting back to the main point of the OP's post, I would love to hear an explanation! 

[nauseus]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s a good question, here’s my take.

 

Rightwing pro-Trump propaganda is accessible to English language speakers, added to which the UK has a well established and dominant rightwing press supplemented by US cable networks, particularly FOX. Also on the mix are non US/UK propaganda outlets ‘Russia Today’ being the most prominent.

 

Keep in mind much of the rightwing pro-Trump propaganda is disseminated online via social media, immediately accessible to English language speakers,

 

And then there’s the actual Trump supporters themselves. Take a look at US home grown MAGA Supporters, no need to denigrate these people more than Trump already does, but realize the UK has its fair share too.

 

Trump’s only offering is to make people who’ve retreated to fear and hatred feel good about themselves, that’s a message that hits home wherever there’s a bigot stroking their self affirming grievances.

 

 

It’s a good question, here’s my take.

 

Outside the USA, a lot of people in the western world see no real problems caused by Trump's policies over 4 years.

 

However, that same group can see the damage caused by Biden's policies over only 2+ years.

 

Most of these people recognize that as the USA loses global influence, then their own countries become more vulnerable. So, if you remove the character assassinations, political bias and hatred, you might see why Trump still has so much support, at home and abroad....whatever the media says!

     

[jvs]

9 minutes ago, xylophone said:

I have been wondering that myself for quite some time, as it is absolutely beyond my comprehension how anybody could vote for someone who is a proven liar, and has been convicted of stealing from a charity, as well as committing adultery despite proclaiming that he is "God-fearing" or similar – – all of which have been proven without a doubt.

 

I've always maintained that I would vote for a candidate who represented my party/political viewpoints, but I draw the line when that particular candidate turns out to be a crook/a POS and has committed other unsavoury actions.

 

So why do people support a person like this, and getting back to the main point of the OP's post, I would love to hear an explanation! 

I believe a lot of people hated Hillary so they ended op voting for Trump.

A country like the USA should come up with a few great candidates

to choose from and not only two so people end up voting for the one they hate the least.

If you look at the way the voting system is designed then you will see it is totally flawed.

Where are the good people?There must be a few?

You will probably not get an answer from a Trumpeteer,you need some one who can actually think in order to answer your question.

Edited April 2, 2023 by jvs

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, nauseus said:

It’s a good question, here’s my take.

 

Outside the USA, a lot of people in the western world see no real problems caused by Trump's policies over 4 years.

 

However, that same group can see the damage caused by Biden's policies over only 2+ years.

 

Most of these people recognize that as the USA loses global influence, then their own countries become more vulnerable. So, if you remove the character assassinations, political bias and hatred, you might see why Trump still has so much support, at home and abroad....whatever the media says!

     

Was it the bit we’re Trump took the side of Putin against US Intelligence services, the bit were he cuddled up to ‘Rocket Man’ or his efforts to undermine NATO that swung it?

 

 

[LosLobo]

35 minutes ago, robblok said:

What i always wonder about is that do people who vote Trump actually like him or is it a case of he is a republican so its the only choice for me even though i know the guy is a huge liar.

 

I mean I cant imagine people really supporting Trump with all his lies. So I am just trying to find an alternative explanation.

 

Just like in Thailand people who hate Thaksin go for Prayut as there is nothing better and the other way around.

I used to think that Trump Kool-Aid was the sole reason why supporters believe and hang on his every word.

 

But now I realise I was wrong, there is an another.

 

During the pandemic the stable genius in praising the amazing powers of sunlight, suggested putting it inside body.

 

Obviously he was part of a successful implementation.

 

For as far as his followers are concerned the sun does shine out of his a**.
 

[Phoenix Rising]

22 minutes ago, nauseus said:

It’s a good question, here’s my take.

 

Outside the USA, a lot of people in the western world see no real problems caused by Trump's policies over 4 years.

 

However, that same group can see the damage caused by Biden's policies over only 2+ years.

 

Most of these people recognize that as the USA loses global influence, then their own countries become more vulnerable. So, if you remove the character assassinations, political bias and hatred, you might see why Trump still has so much support, at home and abroad....whatever the media says!

     

Aha! So trump commands broad support outside of the US, does he? Any links to credible sources that prove your point?

My claim is the exact opposite of yours. Rarely, if ever, as any president of the US been more unpopular outside the US than trump was.

And here's the difference between you and I; I can back up my claim with facts.

 

Trump Ratings Remain Low Around Globe, While Views of U.S. Stay Mostly Favorable

Biden Is Much More Popular Than Trump Around the World

America’s Image Abroad Rebounds With Transition From Trump to Biden

 

I could fill pages with links but you get the idea.

[candide]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

It’s a good question, here’s my take.

 

Outside the USA, a lot of people in the western world see no real problems caused by Trump's policies over 4 years.

 

However, that same group can see the damage caused by Biden's policies over only 2+ years.

 

Most of these people recognize that as the USA loses global influence, then their own countries become more vulnerable. So, if you remove the character assassinations, political bias and hatred, you might see why Trump still has so much support, at home and abroad....whatever the media says!

     

Nice fairy tale!

[xylophone]

1 hour ago, jvs said:

I believe a lot of people hated Hillary so they ended op voting for Trump.

A country like the USA should come up with a few great candidates

to choose from and not only two so people end up voting for the one they hate the least.

If you look at the way the voting system is designed then you will see it is totally flawed.

Where are the good people?There must be a few?

You will probably not get an answer from a Trumpeteer,you need some one who can actually think in order to answer your question.

A country like the USA should come up with a few great candidates........

And for me that is the crux of the matter, because even though Trump is a lying crook, the US now has Joe Biden as president, and to be honest, I don't think he is worthy of the role because of his age/senility, and I would dearly love to see another Democrat in that role.

 

Overall the US has what I call the "Hollywood movie star" conundrum – – – "Slim Pickens" (read Pickings) for a presidential candidate and certainly nut jobs like MTG don't belong anywhere near any position which involves rational thinking. 

 

Getting off topic here, so apologies and hope that the orange clown gets his due comeuppance shortly.

[spidermike007]

7 hours ago, LaosLover said:

Tucker said at all levels people do this. I disagree. So I'm guessing your answer is no, you never heard of this happening. Hey, me neither.

 

He also said that there's no way Biden could have gotten more votes than "crowd surfer superstar Obama".

 

No record of Obama ever having crowd surfed. It doesn't even make sense; would his secret service detail allow it? 

 

Tucker makes stuff up whole cloth. His low info audience loves it. They're happy to check their brains at the door to enjoy the bracing oomph of a bit of made up in the shower righteous indignation.

How does anyone take a man like Carlson seriously? I know what he does is not a news show, but still. He conjures stuff like a master spin meister.

 

Here is a real one with 600x the wisdom and intelligence of Carlson:

 

 

Edited April 2, 2023 by spidermike007

[xylophone]

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

How does anyone take a man like Carlson seriously? I know what he does it not a news show, but still. He conjures stuff like a master spinmeister.

 

 

He's certainly aged a bit in this pic!!!!