BangkokReady Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 8 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: 555 Survival? I guess you also believe them when they tell you their buffalo is sick. A lot of people are in denial over the state of employment in Thailand and pretend that any prostitute is only doing it because they have no other choice. This allows them to label the girl as an innocent victim and the John an evil predator, so they can excuse the behaviour of a Thai and demonise the behaviour of a foreigner. A double whammy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, 2009 said: Honestly, the more I have interacted with Thai society, the more problems I've encountered. They've got a lot of baggage and I ain't a baggage handler (anymore) ???? It does seem like a lot of the time here things that we would call abuse, trauma or neglect, people just call normal. It's actually kind of sad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, BritManToo said: I've lived here 14 years and never interacted in Thai society. IIRC, you have interacted quite intensively with many 30 yo Thai women. They are part of Thai society too. Edited April 23, 2023 by Lacessit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Bones Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 10 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: It's to you if you like the older generation. And do they talk with you because they love your look and your jokes so much? Or are there other reasons? Most of the time I don't pay the girls directly any money. I buy them drinks. Maybe lady drinks from which they get a little money, but maybe just drinks without any money connection. When I was young, I also bought the girls which I liked drinks or dinner. I didn't consider it "paying them" and I am pretty sure they didn't see it as payment. Ok. You are paying for pros^*@tutes.???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNatural Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Not going to Songkran party does not mean one has to stay at home watch some screen and if Songkran in rural Thailand is still enjoyable, at my age, I don't see the point going to the celebrations in Bangkok, many locals have left, the crowd is not so mixed, no fun for me. And not going to bars at night after 60 does not mean you don't have a good time in life. Actually, indepedently of age, if you have activities and company you enjoy at home or somewhere else, there is no point spending more time than necessary in bars. Just my opinion, the occasional fresh beer at sunset watching life in the streets is sufficient for me, casual conversation is optional. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 29 minutes ago, Lucky Bones said: Ok. You are paying for pros^*@tutes.???????? Someone has to do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, BangkokReady said: A lot of people are in denial over the state of employment in Thailand and pretend that any prostitute is only doing it because they have no other choice. This allows them to label the girl as an innocent victim and the John an evil predator, so they can excuse the behaviour of a Thai and demonise the behaviour of a foreigner. A double whammy. There's plenty of employment in Thailand. Would you work in your home country for $20 a day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: There's plenty of employment in Thailand. Would you work in your home country for $20 a day? Would my hypothetical "home country" have the cost of living that Thailand does? Plenty of people in Thailand manage to get by without being prostitutes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Just now, BangkokReady said: Would my hypothetical "home country" have the cost of living that Thailand does? Plenty of people in Thailand manage to get by without being prostitutes. My point is that the wages on offer don't allow them to get by, especially if they have a family upcountry to support. In fact, I'd suggest that's most of the girls working as prostitutes. Yes, there are some who simply choose to do that work for the extra money, just as there are in every developed country. I'm not denying that but the large numbers of women in Thailand working as prostitutes indicates that economics is the main issue. Common sense. Or are you suggesting there's something innate about Thais that steers them into prostitution which is absent in your own country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: My point is that the wages on offer don't allow them to get by, especially if they have a family upcountry to support. My point is that the fact that many women choose to work very low paying jobs and do not turn to prostitution refute this. 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: Or are you suggesting there's something innate about Thais that steers them into prostitution which is absent in your own country? Not innate, but there's certainly a cultural element in the higher rate of sex for money in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 17 hours ago, BritManToo said: I've lived here 14 years and never interacted in Thai society. Unless describing farang bars as Thai society I never bothered unless nothing else to do. I did go to a singing show in Krabi town once where I was the only farang as it had to be the most boring town in Thailand after dark, but the ladies were a bit on the large side for me. Back in farang land, given the only ladies available to me out there ( rather be celibate than try it on with one of them ), I am happy enough to watch movies in my room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, BangkokReady said: My point is that the fact that many women choose to work very low paying jobs and do not turn to prostitution refute this. They obviously don't in most cases considerign it's difficult to find a business in Pattaya at least without a help wanted sign out front. 1 hour ago, BangkokReady said: Not innate, but there's certainly a cultural element in the higher rate of sex for money in Thailand. Rubbish, it's all about no minimum wage laws mandating a respectable wage and lack of social security. Please consider keeping your hegemony down to a dull roar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Back in farang land, given the only ladies available to me out there ( rather be celibate than try it on with one of them ), I am happy enough to watch movies in my room. Look its still Sunday morning , Sunday morning really isn't the time to be talking about having a Sherman tank in your room 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ozimoron said: There's plenty of employment in Thailand. Would you work in your home country for $20 a day? If you could squeeze out an existence for $20 a day, maybe, as almost possible here. Hard to do that at ~$65 a day (minimum wage*** in USA), and provides only the basics, IF lucky. *** Edit: Check that, just peeked: $7.25 hr / $58 a day in 21 states $8-10-12 $15.00 hr in other states. Edited April 23, 2023 by KhunLA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 20 hours ago, jaideedave said: In my almost 20 years in Pattaya I've warmed more bar stools than I care to admit.At 72 I am no longer interested in socializing with people that I used to represent.I'm a homebody these days.Here I am answering this forum.That should tell the story. I've had more than my share of fun in "fun city" I sold my last HD a few years ago due to health. I feel I no longer fit in and most of the conversations bore that crap out of me.My bucket list is complete.I'm basically content these days in > Heaven's Waiting Room < So given up on life at 72yo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, ozimoron said: They obviously don't in most cases considerign it's difficult to find a business in Pattaya at least without a help wanted sign out front. Rubbish, it's all about no minimum wage laws mandating a respectable wage and lack of social security. Please consider keeping your hegemony down to a dull roar. It's about lots of good looking people. So many of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Unless describing farang bars as Thai society I never bothered unless nothing else to do. I did go to a singing show in Krabi town once where I was the only farang as it had to be the most boring town in Thailand after dark, but the ladies were a bit on the large side for me. Back in farang land, given the only ladies available to me out there ( rather be celibate than try it on with one of them ), I am happy enough to watch movies in my room. I went to Krabi recently. Town is boring but Ao Nang my buddha it's a tourist disaster now. Klong Muang beach is the nicest area. So many better places to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, KhunLA said: If you could squeeze out an existence for $20 a day, maybe, as almost possible here. Hard to do that at ~$65 a day (minimum wage*** in USA), and provides only the basics, IF lucky. *** Edit: Check that, just peeked: $7.25 hr / $58 a day in 21 states $8-10-12 $15.00 hr in other states. My point is that any jobs on offer are at slave wages. My further point is that it really isn't a free choice decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 22 hours ago, georgegeorgia said: This is aimed at guys mostly 60yo plus , Are you still going out to social events wherever you are ? Define social event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, ozimoron said: My point is that any jobs on offer are at slave wages. My further point is that it really isn't a free choice decision. The Thais don't address this. No political party says ok minimum wage is 800 baht. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 2 hours ago, ozimoron said: There's plenty of employment in Thailand. Would you work in your home country for $20 a day? If I could buy a home on it then yes. My daughter earns 20k/month and can easily get a mortgage and buy a house with that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, BritManToo said: If I could buy a home on it then yes. My daughter earns 20k/month and can easily get a mortgage and buy a house with that. The actual number was not relevant. Perhaps I should have said $5. My point is that the wages on offer are unlivable for urban Thais. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: The actual number was not relevant. Perhaps I should have said $5. My point is that the wages on offer are unlivable for urban Thais. Is that a hi-so farangy opinion......? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 20 hours ago, georgegeorgia said: Why do you think this is ? Is it because you are getting older ? Or you can't stand the crowds or noise anymore ? You know, sometimes it is called maturing... even 20 year olds don't continue enjoying the same activities they did when they were 7 years old... when you have been to enough songkran festivals, or running of the bulls in Pamplona... you move on to other things... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Tom Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 No, and I never was., I am more than happy with that. I socialise with a very small group of like minded friends, not all the time, but regularly enough. I like my own space and value time on my own. I don't do festivals. If I am deemed to be anti social; well I am happy with that title too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, transam said: Is that a hi-so farangy opinion......? It's based on the number of unfilled positions on offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Tom Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 53 minutes ago, bignok said: So given up on life at 72yo. No, he's given up on idiocy and immaturity, not in himself, but in those he socialised with. I get that. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat is a type of crazy Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 FACT: There would be a lot less lovely young ladies putting on whore makeup and looking to chat and have sexual relations with old uglies if they had access to pay and conditions for work as in Australia. FACT 2: Some girls like the big money and or fun and or the sex and or the power over men and will do it regardless in either country. POSSIBILITY: Thai culture makes Thai woman more likely than western women to be happy pleasing a man and giving him succour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Fat is a type of crazy said: FACT: There would be a lot less lovely young ladies putting on whore makeup and looking to chat and have sexual relations with old uglies if they had access to pay and conditions for work as in Australia. FACT 2: Some girls like the big money and or fun and or the sex and or the power over men and will do it regardless in either country. POSSIBILITY: Thai culture makes Thai woman more likely than western women to be happy pleasing a man and giving him succour. They are half the size too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 57 minutes ago, bignok said: So given up on life at 72yo. I would say that getting off bar stolls (and doing other things ) is actually getting a life , rather than giving up on it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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