Federal appeals court upholds several voter restrictions enacted by Florida Republicans

[onthedarkside]

 

A federal appeals court has upheld several provisions of a restrictive election law in Florida that was passed by the GOP-controlled legislature in 2021.

 

A divided panel of the 11th US Circuit Court of Appeals reversed most of a ruling by a trial judge last year that said the provisions in question violated the Constitution and the Voting Rights Act by intentionally targeting Black voters.

 

US District Judge Mark Walker’s ruling, the appeals court said Thursday, was legally and factually flawed. The 11th Circuit also reversed a holding by Walker that would have required Florida to seek federal approval for any future election rule changes that are similar to the provisions he had struck down.

 

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https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/27/politics/florida-voting-law-restrictions-republicans/index.html

 

[Credo]

These restrictions should have been removed, simply because they were enacted based on a lie.  The election was not stolen and there was no major voter fraud.  

[Tug]

Sad sometimes it seems the republicans are always trying to rig the vote in their favor 

[EVENKEEL]

46 minutes ago, Credo said:

These restrictions should have been removed, simply because they were enacted based on a lie.  The election was not stolen and there was no major voter fraud.  

What's wrong with removing all voter fraud equations? I would think all should be on board with a fair election.

[Skipalongcassidy]

If a person is too apathetic or lazy to vote in person on election day he/she/it should not really have sway... it would stop most of the election fraud being perpetrated and would provide for a fair representative election by citizens who care about their country.

[Chomper Higgot]

19 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

If a person is too apathetic or lazy to vote in person on election day he/she/it should not really have sway... it would stop most of the election fraud being perpetrated and would provide for a fair representative election by citizens who care about their country.

There is no evidence of any significant voter fraud.

 

Fair representation is achieved by maximizing voter participation.

 

The restrictions put in place by the Republicans create obstacles to voter participation.

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

What's wrong with removing all voter fraud equations? I would think all should be on board with a fair election.

The only sure way to eliminate the possibility of voter fraud is to ban all voting.

 

A bit drastic given the rarity of voter fraud:

 

https://fortune.com/2021/12/14/trump-voter-fraud-investigation-biden-battleground-states-only-475-potential-voter-fraud-cases/

[Tug]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

What's wrong with removing all voter fraud equations? I would think all should be on board with a fair election.

Not sure how many Ronnie caught I think it was seven people total cost several million all his (cases were thrown out in court) it’s more about preventing a certain group from voting more than anything else

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

What's wrong with removing all voter fraud equations? I would think all should be on board with a fair election.

It creates barriers. Why create barriers that will prevent people from executing their constitutional rights to solve an non existing problem.

[EVENKEEL]

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

It creates barriers. Why create barriers that will prevent people from executing their constitutional rights to solve an non existing problem.

What barriers have been created? 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

What barriers have been created? 

Perhaps, having joined in commenting on the issue, you might first inform yourself of the issue you chose to discuss.

 

It is not incumbent on other members to fill gaps in your understanding of the subjects you choose to discuss.

[onthedarkside]

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[Hanaguma]

In other words, Democrats are angry that they cannot easily vacuum up all the lazy, apathetic, low information people- the ones who vote Dem overwhelmingly. 

 

Here are the so-called restrictions...

 

limit who can return absentee ballots on behalf of voters, add identification requirement for absentee voting and bar outside groups from providing water to voters within 150 feet of a polling place.

One Florida provision would require voters to reapply for absentee ballots for every election

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/25/politics/new-voting-restrictions-advance-in-more-states/index.html

 

What is so onerous about the above? 

[Chomper Higgot]

41 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

In other words, Democrats are angry that they cannot easily vacuum up all the lazy, apathetic, low information people- the ones who vote Dem overwhelmingly. 

 

Here are the so-called restrictions...

 

limit who can return absentee ballots on behalf of voters, add identification requirement for absentee voting and bar outside groups from providing water to voters within 150 feet of a polling place.

One Florida provision would require voters to reapply for absentee ballots for every election

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/25/politics/new-voting-restrictions-advance-in-more-states/index.html

 

What is so onerous about the above? 

Putting aside use of pejorative, does maximizing voter turn out improve or diminish democratic representation?

[Hanaguma]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Putting aside use of pejorative, does maximizing voter turn out improve or diminish democratic representation?

No.

[Emdog]

3 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

If a person is too apathetic or lazy to vote in person on election day he/she/it should not really have sway... it would stop most of the election fraud being perpetrated and would provide for a fair representative election by citizens who care about their country.

Expand your consciousness to include people that may not be just like you

People who have to work 2-3 jobs to support their family can't fit a trip to polls during work day

Republicans have gotten rid of many poll spots, especially in cities  (which leads to huge lines to waste hours in. Those lines & chance people might want the wait to be less awful by providing thirsty with water is why the anti democratic republicans outlawed the giving of water.), drop off ballot places eliminated; early voting limited (what possible reason not to allow that?)

Elections ought to be on weekends along with early voting

Republicans seem to want to return to original qualifications to vote: white. male. property owner.

Voter fraud that has been found is most often done by republicans and no where has it impacted the outcome

[ozimoron]

The Republican dream of requiring in person voting only on a work day is the most anti poor (typical dem voter) restriction in their tool chest.

[Chomper Higgot]

36 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

No.

We know Republicans agree, they are enacting legislation across multiple Republican controlled states that reduces voter participation in elections.

 

 

[candide]

52 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

The Republican dream of requiring in person voting only on a work day is the most anti poor (typical dem voter) restriction in their tool chest.

Spot on! In countries relying on in person voting, elections are usually held on Sunday. It also facilitates finding volunteers and thetefore having more, closer, voting spots.

[Phoenix Rising]

5 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

If a person is too apathetic or lazy to vote in person on election day he/she/it should not really have sway... it would stop most of the election fraud being perpetrated and would provide for a fair representative election by citizens who care about their country.

"If a person is too apathetic or lazy to vote in person on election day he/she/it should not really have sway... "

There are numerous legitimate reasons why it's very hard or impossible for some voters to vote in person, but I just can't be bothered making obvious lists for you MAGA guys.

 

"....it would stop most of the election fraud being perpetrated..."

What election fraud?? After 3 years of intense scrutiny by dozens of GOP funded groups the result has been a big, fat NOTHING - ZERO- ZILCH!