5 dead, including child, following shooting at Texas home; suspect at large

[onthedarkside]

 

A suspect is at large following a shooting Friday night at a home in Cleveland, Texas, that left five people, including an 8-year-old child, dead, authorities said.

 

Four of the victims were found dead inside a residence on Walters Road in the Trails End area, the San Jacinto County Sheriff’s Office said in a Facebook post on Saturday.

 

The child died at a hospital.

 

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/5-dead-child-shooting-texas-home-suspect-large-rcna82090

 

[Credo]

Well, the gun that was designed to kill as many people as possible in a short period of time has once again shown to be very successful in living up to its designer's goal.

 

[Tug]

This particular nut job was popping off rounds in his back yard his neighbors asked him to stop so their baby could sleep in response this animal murdered the family……….sigh……..just totally unessary no excuses oh but it gets better apparently the perp is Mexican sigh…..here we go again……

[Bkk Brian]

Women lying on top of the children, protecting them. The scene sounds horrific but is almost part and parcel of everyday news in the US.

 

Even FOX is publishing polls asking for more regulations. 

 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/official-polls/fox-news-poll-voters-favor-gun-limits-arming-citizens-reduce-gun-violence

[Tug]

28 minutes ago, Credo said:

Well, the gun that was designed to kill as many people as possible in a short period of time has once again shown to be very successful in living up to its designer's goal.

 

I agree they don’t have an appropriate Imogene for your post so I’m expressing my agreement with this so sad and unessary we need stronger laws

[pegman]

Once again,

 

Thoughts & Prayers & No One Cares

[Tug]

2 hours ago, pegman said:

Once again,

 

Thoughts & Prayers & No One Cares

I beg to differ strongly differ sir the vast majority of Americans are supportive of stronger gun laws it won’t fix things but it will help we have little kids getting slaughtered in school folks being murdered in their places of worship folks being killed because of the color of their skin a ball across a lawn knocking on a door driving up the wrong driveway sir we effin do care deeply care it’s the cowards in the house and senate that don’t do what we want I want you to know we do care

Edited April 30, 2023 by Tug

[pegman]

45 minutes ago, Tug said:

I beg to differ strongly differ sir the vast majority of Americans are supportive of stronger gun laws it won’t fix things but it will help we have little kids getting slaughtered in school folks being murdered in their places of worship folks being killed because of the color of their skin a ball across a lawn knocking on a door driving up the wrong driveway sir we effin do care deeply care it’s the cowards in the house and senate that don’t do what we want I want you to know we do care

If the American public at large cared enough they would change their voting habits then.

[riclag]

 

Another criminal who broke the law!imop

For starters,this sick drunk mexican national disregarded Texas law by consuming alcohol and firing a gun.

 

The neighbors asked him to stop

shooting in his yard,while the kids slept.Puzzling ,why didnt they call the cops.

 

Millions and millions of gun owners 

 shoot weapons in a safe responsible way.
Again why punish millions and millions of responsible citizens who obey the laws.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/29/texas-shooting-suspect-armed-and-dangerous-on-the-run/

 

These laws are in place to protect both gun owners and other people.

https://onlinetexasltc.com/legality-of-carrying-a-firearm-while-under-the-influence-of-alcohol/

Edited April 30, 2023 by riclag

[JonnyF]

6 hours ago, Credo said:

Well, the gun that was designed to kill as many people as possible in a short period of time has once again shown to be very successful in living up to its designer's goal.

 

The gun didn’t kill anyone. It is a piece of metal. 
 

The individual who used the gun was responsible. As long as hate is being stoked by identity politics and the far left baiting the flames of injustice this will continue.

 

Take away the guns while continuing to stoke tensions will result in the type of knife/machete/bomb/vehicle murders that we are currently seeing across Europe.

 

Address the root cause - divisive politics - not the choice of weapon. 

[richard_smith237]

47 minutes ago, riclag said:

Millions and millions of gun owners 

 shoot weapons in a safe responsible way.
Again why punish millions and millions of responsible citizens who obey the laws.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/29/texas-shooting-suspect-armed-and-dangerous-on-the-run/

Because the statistics prove otherwise. 

 

47 minutes ago, riclag said:

These laws are in place to protect both gun owners and other people.

https://onlinetexasltc.com/legality-of-carrying-a-firearm-while-under-the-influence-of-alcohol/

Yet again, statistics suggest otherwise. 

 

 

 

[jvs]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

this sick drunk mexican

What would you have said if it was a Caucasian shooter?

You are a racist and it is becoming clearer and clearer thru your post,

I find this post a lot worse then trolling.

I am not reporting this post so other people can see you true colors.

Edited April 30, 2023 by jvs

[jvs]

I did not read it in the OP but was the gun owned legally?

 

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

The gun didn’t kill anyone. It is a piece of metal. 

Dumb argument used by ‘gun lovers’...  utterly ridiculous and side-steps and completely dumbs down the debate. 

 

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

The individual who used the gun was responsible. As long as hate is being stoked by identity politics and the far left baiting the flames of injustice this will continue.

As were the people who allowed someone mentally unstable access to a gun.

 

Mass shootings will continue in the USA until automatic weapons are removed from society. 

 

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Take away the guns while continuing to stoke tensions will result in the type of knife/machete/bomb/vehicle murders that we are currently seeing across Europe.

Your implication is that if you prevent lunatics access to assault rifles, they’ll just switch to machete / knife / bomb / vehicle attacks....   the response is utterly ridiculous and highlights the mindset of ‘use any excuse possible not to take our guns away’....

 

 

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Address the root cause - divisive politics - not the choice of weapon. 

The suggestion that divisive politics is the root cause of mass-shootings in the US is ridiculous. There are plenty of root causes for such actions and all need addressing...   

 

The ‘either, or’ approach to the issue is also flawed. 

 

Removing such ready access to weapons and intelligently addressing root cause is the correct step forward. 

[riclag]

45 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

The gun didn’t kill anyone. It is a piece of metal. 
 

The individual who used the gun was responsible. As long as hate is being stoked by identity politics and the far left baiting the flames of injustice this will continue.

 

Take away the guns while continuing to stoke tensions will result in the type of knife/machete/bomb/vehicle murders that we are currently seeing across Europe.

 

Address the root cause - divisive politics - not the choice of weapon. 

Thanks for that explanation.

“A gun is just a useless piece of steel without the mind set behind the trigger” !

Madeline Brame

Edited April 30, 2023 by riclag

[onthedarkside]

Off topic deflection post and reply to it removed

[jvs]

6 minutes ago, riclag said:

Thanks for that explanation.

“A gun is just a useless piece of steel without the mind set behind the trigger” !

Madeline Brame

Keep it up!

You almost make sense,now take this useless piece of steel away from

people and see how many shootings there are.

 

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

Thanks for that explanation.

“A gun is just a useless piece of steel without the mind set behind the trigger” !

Madeline Brame

No...  a steel ingot is ‘initially’ a useless piece of steel, a gun is connected, designed and engineers with the sole intention of causing destruction, devastation, death, threat, power...  weapons of any sought do not belong in the hands of any civilian without good reason (i.e. licence hunting / shooting ranges).

 

 

You quoted Madeline Brame....   as tragic as the story is, had her son’s attacker held an assault rifle instead of a knife the devastation of that individual tragedy may well have been significant greater, as are the majority when guns are involved. 

 

In comparison - Imagine the extent devastation on the London Bridge in 2017 when ISIS carried out their terrorism and stabbed 8 people and injured 48 if they had assault rifles instead. 

 

 

Note: The absence of access to guns does not mean ‘all' gun deaths will be replaced by knife deaths, that idea is preposterous. 

 

Edited April 30, 2023 by richard_smith237

[LosLobo]

7 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Women lying on top of the children, protecting them. The scene sounds horrific but is almost part and parcel of everyday news in the US.

 

Even FOX is publishing polls asking for more regulations. 

 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/official-polls/fox-news-poll-voters-favor-gun-limits-arming-citizens-reduce-gun-violence

The OP is another tragic story of mass shootings with the weapon of choice, the AR-15.

 

Call me a cynic of Fox's display of civic goodwill, but I thought it was notable that Fox have been very selective in their display of results of their poll.

 

They have quarantined the positive poll results against gun violence in one graphic from the also positive result of banning assault weapons and grouped it with a negative result for carrying guns and also re-jumbled the header and font size.

 

Obviously there is no logical reason not to show all these results together except for disguising the real perception of assault weapons in the US.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

"Two of the women who were killed were found lying on top of the surviving young children in a bedroom, “trying to protect them,” Capers told The Post by phone from the scene.

 

All five victims were shot in the head, Capers said.

 

“It’s horrific,” Capers said. “No one should ever have to look at this scene, the blood, the trauma that went on in that house.”

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/29/cleveland-texas-gunman-kills-five-8-year-old/

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Just the other day:

Colorado governor signs 4 gun control bills after massacre

DENVER (AP) — Colorado’s [Democrat] governor signed four gun control bills Friday, following the lead of other states struggling to confront a nationwide surge in violent crime and mass shootings, despite a recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling that expanded Second Amendment rights.

 

Before the ink was even dry on Gov. Jared Polis’ signature, gun rights groups sued to reverse two of the measures: raising the buying age for any gun from 18 to 21, and establishing a three-day waiting period between the purchase and receipt of a gun.

...

The new laws, which Democrats pushed through despite late-night filibusters from Republicans, are aimed at quelling rising suicides and youth violence, preventing mass shootings, and opening avenues for gun violence victims to sue the long-protected firearm industry. They were enacted just five months after a mass shooting at an LGBTQ club in Colorado Springs.

 

(more)

 

https://apnews.com/article/gun-control-bills-colorado-governor-659ae16adc1275c42bdfd7f1fc094392

 

[malibukid]

give Texas back to Mexico.  problem solved.

[RichardColeman]

7 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

DENVER (AP) — Colorado’s [Democrat] governor signed four gun control bills Friday, following the lead of other states struggling to confront a nationwide surge in violent crime and mass shootings, despite a recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling that expanded Second Amendment rights.

OK, and this will stop violent gun crime committed by criminals getting guns illegally how ? Black gang member kill far more - mostly of each other - with illegal fire arms than mass shootings. Cracking down on obtaining faire-arms is not the issue - its the criminals with them that is the bigger threat

[Credo]

I was just listening to an American news broadcast.  Apparently, this guy is still on the loose and considered armed and dangerous.   The reward is something like $80,000.  

[Tug]

8 minutes ago, Credo said:

I was just listening to an American news broadcast.  Apparently, this guy is still on the loose and considered armed and dangerous.   The reward is something like $80,000.  

Dead or alive?!?I prefer the former to the latter personally 

[Foghorn]

If the victims had of had guns maybe the shooter would of been dead instead 

[Bkk Brian]

Too many guns, not enough regulations:

 

Rene Arevalo Sr., who lives a few houses down, said he heard gunshots around midnight but didn't think anything of it.

"It's a normal thing people do around here, especially on Fridays after work," Arevalo said. "They get home and start drinking in their backyards and shooting out there."

https://abc13.com/cleveland-texas-shooting-5-dead-in-san-jacinto-county-child-killed/13195094/

[jvs]

59 minutes ago, Foghorn said:

If the victims had of had guns maybe the shooter would of been dead instead 

Congratulations!You have the perfect solution!

Did you come up with this al by yourself or is it a

very old line?

Amazing!

[Credo]

1 hour ago, Foghorn said:

If the victims had of had guns maybe the shooter would of been dead instead 

I am pretty sure they had a gun.  It appears that everyone around there did, but when someone shows up with an assault-style weapon, you might as well have a butter knife.   

 

[newnative]

   Cue the crocodile tears from the useless, spineless, corrupt politicians in the pocket of the NRA.  The majority of Americans strongly favor gun control but nothing significant ever gets done.