Nigel Farage: ‘Brexit has failed’

[candide]

Latest statistics by the OECD:

- UK GDP is still below pre-pandemic level (- 0.5%), but has been joined by Germany,

- UK GDP growth forecast for 2023 is positive (0.3%).

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/

 

[chalawaan]

On 5/17/2023 at 2:11 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

Nigel says that he doesn't think Brexit has been a failure , he says that the Tory Government have failed to implement it properly , like allowing more immigration when Brexit was meant to stop more immigration 

You remind me of the Japanese soldier in the Phillipines who surrendered in 1974.

Nothing could convince him the war was over, a letter from the emperor, his own brother singing school songs, thousands of newspapers past and present.

 

Nigel blamed everyone but reality in that interview, but the fact remains it FAILED, and it doesn't matter who, how, when, or where, it's from the old spivs mouth to your ears.

 

Brexit has failed!

 

The war is over, Mac Mick San.

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, chalawaan said:

You remind me of the Japanese soldier in the Phillipines who surrendered in 1974.

Nothing could convince him the war was over, a letter from the emperor, his own brother singing school songs, thousands of newspapers past and present.

 

Nigel blamed everyone but reality in that interview, but the fact remains it FAILED, and it doesn't matter who, how, when, or where, it's from the old spivs mouth to your ears.

 

Brexit has failed!

 

The war is over, Mac Mick San.

Yep, over. We're out... and it'll cost far too much to rejoin. 

[RuamRudy]

47 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Yep, over. We're out... and it'll cost far too much to rejoin. 

It's already cost us far too much by being out - we can't afford to stay out.

[Chomper Higgot]

48 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Yep, over. We're out... and it'll cost far too much to rejoin. 

It’s costing too much not to be in the EU.

 

And voters have noticed.

[stevenl]

Wasn't Brexit supposed to be greatly beneficial to the UK fishing industry?

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jul/22/we-are-at-50-of-the-quota-we-had-boss-of-uks-last-long-range-trawler-rues-squandered-brexit-hopes

[josephbloggs]

3 hours ago, stevenl said:

Wasn't Brexit supposed to be greatly beneficial to the UK fishing industry?

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jul/22/we-are-at-50-of-the-quota-we-had-boss-of-uks-last-long-range-trawler-rues-squandered-brexit-hopes

Yep, and they all voted for it. Hard to find sympathy. "Project fear" was their cry....

[candide]

4 hours ago, stevenl said:

Wasn't Brexit supposed to be greatly beneficial to the UK fishing industry?

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jul/22/we-are-at-50-of-the-quota-we-had-boss-of-uks-last-long-range-trawler-rues-squandered-brexit-hopes

From the linked article:

“I voted Brexit, all of us did,” he says. “Because of what we were led to believe, not just for the fishing industry, but on other things as well. For any young guy just starting, like my two lads, it’s a worry. And that’s all down to Brexit and losing our quota.”

[Mavideol]

On 5/31/2023 at 11:58 PM, youreavinalaff said:

I look forward to seeing the link where Starmer said " we will not be seeking to rejoin the EU for now but maybe later". If you don't have a link but believe it's on the cards if Labour get a second term, he's lying.

 

As for the EU allowing UK a gradual rejoin, you don't believe that could happen anymore than anyone else, including Labour MPs. 

maybe should ask EU's opinion about the possibility of re-joining, maybe they don't want the UK back, too much winning and finger pointing who wants that

[youreavinalaff]

7 hours ago, Mavideol said:

maybe should ask EU's opinion about the possibility of re-joining, maybe they don't want the UK back, too much winning and finger pointing who wants that

I'm not interested in rejoining. Why would I ask?

[bendejo]

What does this guy do for a living anyway?

 

[JonnyF]

On 7/24/2023 at 12:58 PM, Mavideol said:

maybe should ask EU's opinion about the possibility of re-joining, maybe they don't want the UK back, too much winning and finger pointing who wants that

Why would we want to do that? We're already outperforming the German economy from outside the EU. Looks like they really did need the UK after all. Imagine that!!!

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1795054/uk-economy-jeremy-hunt-germany

 

 

 

Still looking for that cliff edge. ????????????

[Chomper Higgot]

42 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Why would we want to do that? We're already outperforming the German economy from outside the EU. Looks like they really did need the UK after all. Imagine that!!!

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1795054/uk-economy-jeremy-hunt-germany

 

 

 

Still looking for that cliff edge. ????????????

More crystal ball stuff from the rightwing press.

 

 

[JonnyF]

40 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

More crystal ball stuff from the rightwing press.

 

 

Here are some actual results for you from your beloved left wing Guardian.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/25/germany-economy-falls-into-recession-high-prices-take-toll

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/mar/31/uk-avoids-recession-as-economy-stronger-than-first-thought-at-end-of-2022

[RayC]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Why would we want to do that? We're already outperforming the German economy from outside the EU. Looks like they really did need the UK after all. Imagine that!!!

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1795054/uk-economy-jeremy-hunt-germany

 

 

 

Still looking for that cliff edge. ????????????

Nice bpit of cherry picking there.

 

IMF revised GDP growth  projections for 2023:

 

UK: 0.4%; Eurozone: 0.9%; EU: 1%

[JonnyF]

21 minutes ago, RayC said:

Nice bpit of cherry picking there.

 

IMF revised GDP growth  projections for 2023:

 

UK: 0.4%; Eurozone: 0.9%; EU: 1%

Crystal Ball stuff. 

 

The IMF consistently underestimates UK growth. They're a laughing stock where it comes to UK predictions. 3 whole % out in 2021. I posted the real figures above. So tell me, where is the cliff edge that Project Fear hyped up? Didn't happen, did it...

 

https://www.cityam.com/why-have-the-bank-of-england-and-the-imf-been-so-wrong-on-the-uk-economy-a/

 

https://theboar.org/2023/02/uk-growth/

 

[candide]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Why would we want to do that? We're already outperforming the German economy from outside the EU. Looks like they really did need the UK after all. Imagine that!!!

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1795054/uk-economy-jeremy-hunt-germany

 

 

 

Still looking for that cliff edge. ????????????

From the linked article:

"The UK is still expected to be the second slowest growing nation in the G7 group of leading economies this year"

 

The good news is also that UK may finally catch-up the pre-pandemic level at the end of this year! ????

[JonnyF]

1 minute ago, candide said:

From the linked article:

"The UK is still expected to be the second slowest growing nation in the G7 group of leading economies this year"

Germany, the powerhouse and largest economy in the EU being the slowest. ????

 

1 minute ago, candide said:

 

The good news is also that UK may finally catch-up the pre-pandemic level at the end of this year! ????

You should really do some research before posting this type of drivel.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/af5820bf-0af6-4228-8223-4cb79cc5a6d6

 

[candide]

14 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Germany, the powerhouse and largest economy in the EU being the slowest. ????

 

You should really do some research before posting this type of drivel.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/af5820bf-0af6-4228-8223-4cb79cc5a6d6

 

Well , Germany is the lowest and we know why. UK is the second lowest and we also know why.

 

As to the FT article, it is based on outdated data. According to the latest data available, the current level of UK GDP is below pre-pandemic level.

You can check here (updated 25 July)

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/#:~:text=In Q1 2023%2C the UK,0.5% fall in Q4 2022.

 

And also here

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/grossdomesticproductgdp

Edited July 27, 2023 by candide

[RayC]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Crystal Ball stuff. 

 

The IMF consistently underestimates UK growth. They're a laughing stock where it comes to UK predictions. 3 whole % out in 2021. I posted the real figures above. So tell me, where is the cliff edge that Project Fear hyped up? Didn't happen, did it...

 

https://www.cityam.com/why-have-the-bank-of-england-and-the-imf-been-so-wrong-on-the-uk-economy-a/

 

https://theboar.org/2023/02/uk-growth/

 

Only believe the figures that suit your narrative, eh?

 

I also posted the 'real' projected figures which show that the UK is predicted to grow more slowly than the Eurozone and the wider EU this year.

 

Falling off a cliff edge? Maybe not - although the 10% overnight decline in sterling when the referendum result was announced was quite a descent - more like, a steady slide down a steep hill. 

 

Where's those sunny uplands we were promised?

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Here are some actual results for you from your beloved left wing Guardian.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/25/germany-economy-falls-into-recession-high-prices-take-toll

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/mar/31/uk-avoids-recession-as-economy-stronger-than-first-thought-at-end-of-2022

Is that you admitting the the Express article you linked is a forecast?

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Crystal Ball stuff. 

 

The IMF consistently underestimates UK growth. They're a laughing stock where it comes to UK predictions. 3 whole % out in 2021. I posted the real figures above. So tell me, where is the cliff edge that Project Fear hyped up? Didn't happen, did it...

 

https://www.cityam.com/why-have-the-bank-of-england-and-the-imf-been-so-wrong-on-the-uk-economy-a/

 

https://theboar.org/2023/02/uk-growth/

 

Did you just say ‘Crystal Ball’?!