BenStark Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 My question is for a friend. His daughter has dual nationality, can she enter Thailand with an expired Thai passport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) Yes Is her other pp valid? She can exit on that pp and enter Thailand on her expired thai pp. Edited May 20, 2023 by DrJack54 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marin Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 9 hours ago, DrJack54 said: Yes Is her other pp valid? She can exit on that pp and enter Thailand on her expired thai pp. Hmmm... When my daughter came in September she had a valid US and an expired Thai passport. She told the IO she wanted to enter on the expired passport, they said better on the US as you have to leave on the same passport. She explained her parents were at the airport and the first stop was the passport agency on CW. So entered on the old expired Thai passport and had a new one in 5 days to exit on. She told me "IO said if I enter on one passport and I must exit on the same." Yes it was new but biometrically tied to her old one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 1 hour ago, marin said: Hmmm... When my daughter came in September she had a valid US and an expired Thai passport. She told the IO she wanted to enter on the expired passport, they said better on the US as you have to leave on the same passport. She explained her parents were at the airport and the first stop was the passport agency on CW. So entered on the old expired Thai passport and had a new one in 5 days to exit on. She told me "IO said if I enter on one passport and I must exit on the same." Yes it was new but biometrically tied to her old one. The IO can't refuse a Thai with a expired passport. Maybe she have 'lost' the US passport at the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marin Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Neeranam said: The IO can't refuse a Thai with a expired passport. Maybe she have 'lost' the US passport at the airport. She came in on the expired passport. The IO was advising her to use the US to both enter and leave on. She declined. As I said less than a week later she had the new Thai passport. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritTim Posted May 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2023 2 hours ago, marin said: She came in on the expired passport. The IO was advising her to use the US to both enter and leave on. She declined. As I said less than a week later she had the new Thai passport. This makes perfect sense. If she enters on the Thai passport, she cannot leave on the US passport. The IO sensibly pointed that out. Once she made clear that she intended leaving on a renewed Thai passport, the IO was happy to stamp her in as a Thai. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marin Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, BritTim said: This makes perfect sense. If she enters on the Thai passport, she cannot leave on the US passport. The IO sensibly pointed that out. Agreed mate. I only posted it up in response to a post saying something quite different above mine. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, BritTim said: This makes perfect sense. If she enters on the Thai passport, she cannot leave on the US passport. Wouldn't she need a "visa" (incl. VFE) to enter Thailand with a foreign passport? If so, for a longer stay, entering with the Thai passport would make sense. Edited May 21, 2023 by StayinThailand2much 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marin Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said: Wouldn't she need a "visa" (incl. VFE) to enter Thailand with a foreign passport? My kid was coming for 3 weeks. On a US passport she could arrive Visa exempt. She chose not to do so, but the option was there as offered by the Thai IO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preacher Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 You can enter Thailand on an exipred Thai passport. But entering on an expired Thai passport means that you need to leave on a Thai passport and that you can not do aon an expired Thai passport.. So you have to get a new passport in Thailand, for which both parents must agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 On 5/21/2023 at 9:49 AM, Neeranam said: The IO can't refuse a Thai with a expired passport. Maybe she have 'lost' the US passport at the airport. Or never mentioned that she was carrying 2 passports. Just show the Thai pp and mention 'it's expired'. US passport tucked away, never seen or menioned at the arrival airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenStark Posted August 3, 2023 Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 Follow up on this thread, I forwarded this thread to my friend, and explained that his daughter should enter on her expired Thai passport. Yesterday I found out that they decided to go against my advice, and she entered on her foreign passport anyway. The stamp she got expired end of July. They made a new Thai passport just the other day, and he said they got a document, not sure if it was from the passport office or the Amphur where they made a Thai ID card, since she didn't have one yet, that rectifies everything, and she can just exit on her Thai passport. Is this possible, or is he just a dumb ass, and will she be charged overstay on her exit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 She will not be charged overstay upon departure from Thailand with her Thai passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Without seeing any new stamps in the foreign and Thai passports, and precisely what the document referred to consists of, we cannot say. Fines are still possible. There is a procedure followed in Thailand for a change to newly acquired Thai citizenship that cleanly terminates the stay on the foreign passport. I do not think that is possible here, but maybe there is something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenStark Posted August 3, 2023 Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 She didn't aquire new Thai citizenship, since she has been Thai since birth. She was born in Europe, but she has never lived in Thailand, that's why she didn't have a Thai ID card yet. Her first Thai passport was issues buy the Embassy and had expired, To renew the passport here, she had to apply for an ID card first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 hour ago, BenStark said: Follow up on this thread, I forwarded this thread to my friend, and explained that his daughter should enter on her expired Thai passport. Yesterday I found out that they decided to go against my advice, and she entered on her foreign passport anyway. The stamp she got expired end of July. They made a new Thai passport just the other day, and he said they got a document, not sure if it was from the passport office or the Amphur where they made a Thai ID card, since she didn't have one yet, that rectifies everything, and she can just exit on her Thai passport. Is this possible, or is he just a dumb ass, and will she be charged overstay on her exit? I advise going to immigration to get them to write something in the US passport. I have this in my UK passport, something along the lines of 'this person has acquired Thai citizenship'. This was recommended to me to avoid any hassle at the airport, as some have been fined, especially if the visa has not expired by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 4 hours ago, BenStark said: She didn't aquire new Thai citizenship, since she has been Thai since birth. She was born in Europe, but she has never lived in Thailand, that's why she didn't have a Thai ID card yet. Her first Thai passport was issues buy the Embassy and had expired, To renew the passport here, she had to apply for an ID card first I understand that. It is not a unique case, and (by entering as a foreigner) has created a complicated situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiaussie Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 She entered on her foreign passport, she should exit on it. If she's under 15, no stress, as their is no fine. You should always enter and exit thailand on the same passport. https://www.thaicitizenship.com/traveling-as-a-dual-citizen/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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