Thailand News - 'Central' goes too far with Kid’s Pride event, good economic news : Tim Newton Today - June 16

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Great economic forecast from the Bank of Thailand, Central Pattana 'Kid's Pride Event at their Central Marina store goes too far, Phuket accounting firm raided as NACC investigates Thai nominees on companies set up to purchase property, Pita in Chiang Mai promising to tackle the crippling PM 2.5 air pollution problem, Election Commission set to start announcing elected MPs from next Monday.

 

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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Good report card for the Thai economy from the Bank of Thailand
2:58 - Phuket law firm gets raided over dodgy 'nominee' companies for property sales
5:55 - Latest reports on the 'Broccoli' issue as reported in international media
8:18 - Central Pattana goes too far with promotion of Kid's Pride event in Pattaya
10:52 - Pita visits Chiang Mai to promote response to PM 2.5 air pollution problem
13:29 - Election commission say they will start announcing winning MPs next week
14:44 - Officials investigate cheap and nasty Thai school lunches

 

 

[Yellowtail]

It's nice that they are promoting this stuff. 

[proton]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

It's nice that they are promoting this stuff. 

Why is it? and why are kids always the target of it, you don't see them wanting to do drag shows in old folks homes. 

Edited June 16, 2023 by proton

[Yellowtail]

22 minutes ago, proton said:

Why is it? and why are kids always the target of it, you don't see them wanting to do drag shows in old folks homes. 

Too late to flip the old folks, kids are the future...

[sidneybear]

Why can't these Pride groups leave children out of it? Promoting sexuality to kids is wicked.

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, sidneybear said:

Why can't these Pride groups leave children out of it? Promoting sexuality to kids is wicked.

These events are what saves many children from suicide. Would you rather have a trans child or a dead child? 

[FarAway]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

These events are what saves many children from suicide. Would you rather have a trans child or a dead child? 

Hahahahha you are severely mentally ill

[sidneybear]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

These events are what saves many children from suicide. Would you rather have a trans child or a dead child? 

That's sick.

[JonnyF]

Preaching to kids about LGBTQ+++ and sexuality is quite disturbing  . Especially the really young ones.

 

Take them to the beach and let them have fun building sandcastles or something. Let them make their own minds up on these issues when they are old enough to properly understand them.

[JonnyF]

11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Too late to flip the old folks, kids are the future...

You want to "flip" kids? .

[bignok]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

5:55 - Latest reports on the 'Broccoli' issue as reported in international media

Broccoli got a mention here too.

[Yellowtail]

26 minutes ago, sidneybear said:

That's sick.

You think it's sick to prevent children from committing suicide?  

[Jingthing]

My thoughts. 

 

Probably ill advised from a PR pov from central.

 

The Pride for all signs were lovely.

 

Obviously the Kids Pride thing will attract reactionary attention I'm assuming mostly from westerners.

 

But the fact is there are many kids today that organically identify as gay or ladyboys etc. Not because they were recruited. Because that's how they feel.

 

Obviously they may grow up differently.

 

But regardless it is a positive thing psychologically for them to receive supportive messages from society that they are OK and valued whatever they are.

 

That sort of thing does for a fact reduce depression, poor self esteem, and suicide in LGBT youth.

 

But it was still probably not a great idea for Central to do this.

 

Comforting messages of you're OK regardless can come from other ways and for the sake of LGBTQ youth hopefully do.

 

Another thing. If a message is above a kids current understanding they tend to just filter it out. Like take a kid to a sophisticated movie with adult level themes most often they will just be bored.

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You think it's sick to prevent children from committing suicide?  

The reactionary protect the children at all costs brigade almost never consider protecting LGBTQ children. They generally don't even acknowledge that they even exist.

[Jingthing]

34 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

You want to "flip" kids? .

Kids aren't flipped.

They will grow up to be what they are based on their inner nature.

Being exposed to the existence of queer people doesn't make a kid that will grow up straight queer.

And vice versa.

Edited June 16, 2023 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

39 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Preaching to kids about LGBTQ+++ and sexuality is quite disturbing  . Especially the really young ones.

 

Take them to the beach and let them have fun building sandcastles or something. Let them make their own minds up on these issues when they are old enough to properly understand them.

I don't think the Central promotion was wise but it is hardly preaching.

When a school holds a dance and assumes all the couples will be heteronormative, is that preaching?

[Hanaguma]

15 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I don't think the Central promotion was wise but it is hardly preaching.

When a school holds a dance and assumes all the couples will be heteronormative, is that preaching?

No, it is normal. As you said, hetero NORMATIVE.   No sense in spending time worried about the 2% who are not. 

 

Tolerance is fine, I don't think anyone is against tolerating people in all their iterations. But messaging to children is gruesome.

[sidneybear]

5 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Tolerance is fine, I don't think anyone is against tolerating people in all their iterations. But messaging to children is gruesome.

Agreed - consenting adults can do what they like, but people who pitch their sex lives to innocent children are warped, evil and belong in prison. 

[PremiumLane]

1 hour ago, proton said:

Why is it? and why are kids always the target of it, you don't see them wanting to do drag shows in old folks homes. 

I am sure if old folks homes wanted them they would, and I am sure they have before. So what is your point? Kids are exclusively hetrosexual till they turn 18, or something? We should hide gay people away? 

[PremiumLane]

2 minutes ago, sidneybear said:

Agreed - consenting adults can do what they like, but people who pitch their sex lives to innocent children are warped, evil and belong in prison. 

It is you that is projecting sex on to it 

[sidneybear]

34 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The reactionary protect the children at all costs brigade almost never consider protecting LGBTQ children. They generally don't even acknowledge that they even exist.

They don't exist. Childen should be left to do what children do, without being sexualised by predatory adults.

[Jingthing]

16 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

No, it is normal. As you said, hetero NORMATIVE.   No sense in spending time worried about the 2% who are not. 

 

Tolerance is fine, I don't think anyone is against tolerating people in all their iterations. But messaging to children is gruesome.

The percentage of LGBTQ people in Thailand is definitely much higher than 2 percent!

[sidneybear]

14 minutes ago, PremiumLane said:

It is you that is projecting sex on to it 

LGBTQIA is an expression of sexuality, which should be done between adults. Is twerking in front of a child sexual? How about promoting drag shows to 1 - 6 year olds, as was the case recently in Australia? That is, until the organisers received death threats from concerned parents.

 

Leave the kids alone.

Edited June 16, 2023 by sidneybear

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, sidneybear said:

They don't exist. Childen should be left to do what children do, without being sexualised by predatory adults.

They do exist.

I'll ignore your fear mongering.

[sidneybear]

Just now, Jingthing said:

The percentage of LGBTQ people in Thailand is definitely much higher than 2 percent!

Have you done a survey?

[sidneybear]

Just now, Jingthing said:

They do exist.

I'll ignore your fear mongering.

In your own head.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, sidneybear said:

Have you done a survey?

No need. I have eyes.

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, sidneybear said:

In your own head.

Ask a typical gay man when they knew they were different.

Most will give a quite young age.

In retrospect I knew at age 5.

In my day people didn't come out super early which is quite common now.

Edited June 16, 2023 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, sidneybear said:

In your own head.

It's quite offensive to suggest people that obviously exist that they don’t.

It's sort of a psychological genocide.

[jonclark]

44 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The reactionary protect the children at all costs brigade almost never consider protecting LGBTQ children. They generally don't even acknowledge that they even exist.

I would hope that all children have no understanding of Lesbian, Gay, Bi-sexual, Trans or Queer (LGBTQ) sexuality or gender preference as they are children (and I would include hertero sexuality as well). As children transition to adulthood then that discussion should be available. but for children no. 

 

So when is the straight pride festival - In the interests of gender and sexual balance shouldn't all us old boring straights have the opportunity to parade our sexuality around town?