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Breakthrough deal could see either Pita or Srettha take job as Thailand’s 30th PM on July 13th


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58 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

Pheu Thai shows they are the bad losers... They want key positions, while normally the largest party has the House Speaker and PM... On the other side I am wondering why the House Speaker has so much power.. The PM and the cabinet should have this power and the House Speaker isn't needed anymore 

Bad losers or savvy negotiators?

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1 hour ago, ikke1959 said:

Pheu Thai shows they are the bad losers... They want key positions, while normally the largest party has the House Speaker and PM... On the other side I am wondering why the House Speaker has so much power.. The PM and the cabinet should have this power and the House Speaker isn't needed anymore 

seems they are excellent loosers and good negotiators...And since when is a party that got 5% more votes than last time a looser?

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1 hour ago, BKKKevin said:

If Pita is not made Prime Minister they better prepare Lumpini Park at Silom for long term visitors...

Correct. The people in my city in Issaan would be coming down in droves, far more people than last time

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10 minutes ago, h90 said:

seems they are excellent loosers and good negotiators...And since when is a party that got 5% more votes than last time a looser?

They lost to MF 14 million plus votes to 10 million 

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10 minutes ago, bannork said:

They lost to MF 14 million plus votes to 10 million 

they gained 5% in compare to last time...when Prayuth got most votes...So they won but won less than....You can't call that loosing.

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2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

The talks between the coalition parties have been friendly and the formula reached is amicable. As much as detractors want to see the breakup of MFP and PTP, it didn’t happen and democracy survived. No walk out, no dissenting opinions and even Thaksin didn’t make any demand. MFP will get a shoot at nominating Pita, house speakership and 14 “ A” listed ministries.
 

For the majority of voters who voted for the coalition, they will be pleased that negotiation has been transparent and in the right spirit and the junta coalition has been denied the next government. Still hoping that Pita gets the votes to become PM but the task is daunting. Sreetha will be the right alternate with little political baggages and business experience and non controversial. 

The test will be the vote in parliament...before everything is just theory....lets wait for the 4th (it is on the 4th or?)

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6 minutes ago, h90 said:

The test will be the vote in parliament...before everything is just theory....lets wait for the 4th (it is on the 4th or?)

Don’t think the test in Parliament where the pro democracy coalition has overwhelming majority. That aspect is almost a done deal. Real test will be the joint house seating for PM and it’s an open ballot. 

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3 minutes ago, bannork said:

I don't know why so many people have problems spelling lose, losing and loser. 

They lost to MF for gawd's sake. 

They boasted how they would win by a landslide but they got.nearly four and a half million less votes than MF 

That is called losing.

The dark horse, the underdog won and now the loser is smarting.

with more votes, even if less than you hoped for you did not lose.....

Prayut lost

MFP, PTP, BJT won but Thailand has no "winner takes it all" system so even that is not very relevant. The >50% in parliament makes the win. (and the weird senators unfortunately)

 

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1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

Don’t think the test in Parliament where the pro democracy coalition has overwhelming majority. That aspect is almost a done deal. Real test will be the joint house seating for PM and it’s an open ballot. 

There is still red shirts talking about the speaker...If MFP get the speaker but half the PTP doesn't vote him it will still look bad. But if he gets all the votes it will show that the coalition is very stable. I can't imagine that the MFP doesn't get the speaker, but who knows in Thailand....

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7 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Since they did not win? I thought that was the definition of loser .

It isn't a "winner takes it all system" like in USA. And having the most votes doesn't mean much if you are <50% and can't form a coalition.

In Europe often they call some 5% party that got 9% as the winner of the election and the 40% party that only got 33% this time the big looser.

(Which is stupid). With + 5% you aren't a loser. Prayut is a loser. MFP is the strongest party and the biggest winner. If the others make some weird coalition without them (unlikely but mathematically possible)...they still lost at the end.

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2 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Greedy snouts!

Absolutely Right!!:clap2:

They are there as agents of the public to "Negotiate" the best deal for the country ,not for themselves and of how to best line their pockets. 

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2 minutes ago, h90 said:

MFP is the strongest party and the biggest winner. If the others make some weird coalition without them (unlikely but mathematically possible)...they still lost at the end.

Ahhhh, there is a weird coalition.............8 parties! That's a lot of snouts at the trough!

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11 minutes ago, sirineou said:

I don't know why you don't know  that  not everyone in Thailand is a native english  speaker. 

Nothing to do with it, lots of native speakers trip up over the word too. 

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7 minutes ago, h90 said:

It isn't a "winner takes it all system" like in USA.

Yet as even you said "Winner" and not get all but get most. The people in Thailand voted! Pita won, now stop the nonsense and move forward (pun intended)????

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Just now, 2baht said:

Ahhhh, there is a weird coalition.............8 parties! That's a lot of snouts at the trough!

of course...recall when PTP said first that they don't need the speaker because he want to make the health minister.....Because the health minister is big money. The same thing why Prayut wanted to do that himself instead of let Anutin pocket everything.

Nothing to do with helping people...it is about money......one promise that every day is Christmas if you give them their votes, the other give you 1000 Baht now for the vote and the 3rd has some tanks in the garage....

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1 minute ago, sirineou said:

Yet as even you said "Winner" and not get all but get most. The people in Thailand voted! Pita won, now stop the nonsense and move forward (pun intended)????

every single MP who sit in the parliament won his seat....It is nice to have but meaningless....you need the votes in parliament and that a coalition can only win.

And that depends on negotiations, bribery, promises...not who was first second or third.

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3 minutes ago, h90 said:

of course...recall when PTP said first that they don't need the speaker because he want to make the health minister.....Because the health minister is big money. The same thing why Prayut wanted to do that himself instead of let Anutin pocket everything.

Nothing to do with helping people...it is about money......one promise that every day is Christmas if you give them their votes, the other give you 1000 Baht now for the vote and the 3rd has some tanks in the garage....

Health Minister has been given to K Sudarat. Didn’t you know? 

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