Back on the bar stool.

[bignok]

10 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

Last time i went to a bar i only met losers and alkies, so i left.

Who did you expect to meet? Elon Musk wont be there.

[Neeranam]

9 hours ago, bignok said:

Who did you expect to meet? Elon Musk wont be there.

Indeed. 

Maybe he should go to a chess club or similar. 

[Rimmer]

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[Acharn]

21 hours ago, Neeranam said:

I meant to say all alcoholics are welcome. 

Non alcoholics are, of course, not welcome. Sadly, nowadays there are more and more, partly, IMHO, due to the short form. 

The short form of tradition 3 was written for treatment centres. 

 

Sorry, I'm pretty out of touch. What is the short form of Tradition 3? The whole thing reads, “The only requirement for A.A. membership is a desire to stop drinking.” I sobered up in 1976, and that's the way it read back then. Are you thinking of the substance problem? Back in the '70s a lot of drug addicts were coming to AA because Narcotics Anonymous was just being formed, and a lot of older alcoholics felt uncomfortable with them. The Tradition means what it says, you cannot keep someone out of an AA group who says they want to quit drinking. They don't have to have become homeless or even suffered a hangover.

ETA: Sorry, my bad. I looked up the Traditions and there is a long form. I knew about that back when I was stationed in the states, and forgot.