Bandersnatch Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, Lacessit said: Ultracrepidarian is a new word for me, thanks. Your hypothesis depends on whether EV zealots have any interest in ICE threads. Maybe they prefer the cachet of exclusivity, plenty of cults in America to attest to that. "reserve is true'? tut tut. You failed to address my main point: Why those who don’t own an EV are so obsessed with telling those of us who do, how rubbish EVs are? Before you accuse EV owners of 3 hours ago, Lacessit said: spurious virtue signalling Remember that ICE cars spew a toxic cocktail into the air for others to breathe. I charge from home solar, even if that means being flexible about when I drive the car. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted August 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2023 41 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said: You failed to address my main point: Why those who don’t own an EV are so obsessed with telling those of us who do, how rubbish EVs are? Before you accuse EV owners of Remember that ICE cars spew a toxic cocktail into the air for others to breathe. I charge from home solar, even if that means being flexible about when I drive the car. Show me where I have said EV cars are rubbish, please. 70% of world electricity still comes from fossil fuels. In the case of Chiang Mai, Lamphun, Lampang etc., it comes from one of the dirtiest power stations on the planet, fuelled by lignite. It spews as much toxic cocktail as all ICE's, with a dash of radon to add flavor. If you are charging from home solar, good for you. Most EV owners are not. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JBChiangRai Posted August 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Lacessit said: If you are charging from home solar, good for you. Most EV owners are not. I charge from solar. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 My grandfather said the family motto is something like semper in excreta sed profundum variat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said: I charge from solar. I think most of us/AN members, in THs are. Somehow that hasn't clicked, as they tell us we're part of the problem ???? _________________________ Hypocrisy - the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense. Edited August 9, 2023 by KhunLA 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBChiangRai Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 First service for my MG4 yesterday, less than an hour and free. I told them I would have an MG4 X-Power when they get them. Lady sales manager says it is coming, she didn’t ask for a deposit, in my experience the staff at MG have more product knowledge about banana’s than their own cars. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, KhunLA said: I think most of us/AN members, in THs are. Somehow that hasn't clicked, as they tell us we're part of the problem ???? _________________________ Hypocrisy - the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense. You have reliable statistics of EV owners charging from renewable energy, against those getting their electricity from a fossil-fuelled power station? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman30 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 On 8/8/2023 at 9:55 AM, KhunLA said: Can't say the same about fossil fuel using machines. when you say fossil fuels, you mean fossil fuels right? "natural gas, which in 2018 generated 65% of Thailand's electricity. Coal-fired plants produce an additional 20%"-wiki???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman30 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said: I charge from solar. Just curious do you charge your car in daylight hours when the solar is producing electricity or do you charge your car at evening/night time like most EV owners do and then use your solar to spin back your meter in the daytime? how do you charge it if on a trip? not many with solar here are off-grid. most people have jobs etc and would be using their car during the day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, patman30 said: when you say fossil fuels, you mean fossil fuels right? "natural gas, which in 2018 generated 65% of Thailand's electricity. Coal-fired plants produce an additional 20%"-wiki???? What is it with the reading comprehension of members ... suggest you reread my post. Hint: ... 'my machines' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBChiangRai Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, patman30 said: Just curious do you charge your car in daylight hours when the solar is producing electricity or do you charge your car at evening/night time like most EV owners do and then use your solar to spin back your meter in the daytime? how do you charge it if on a trip? not many with solar here are off-grid. most people have jobs etc and would be using their car during the day. We have a very weak grid connection, I can't charge more than 2Kw at night, so I choose to charge it during the day at 5.3Kw I commute every 2-3 weeks to Chiang <ai where my daughters go to University, we have a 7.2Kw charging point there but it's not solar. I have only ever charged on one trip at any other public or private CS, obviously that is not solar either. 90% of my charging is from my solar system during the day here in Chiang Rai. I didn't buy EV's or Solar for the greenness they may have, it's purely economic for solar and mostly pleasure for EV, I love the way they drive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said: I didn't buy EV's or Solar for the greenness they may have, it's purely economic for solar and mostly pleasure for EV, I love the way they drive. yep ... savings savings and .... savings. No trips to petrol station, minimal to dealer for check ups, and they are fast. Last time, done before I finished my coffee ???? That we don't contribute to the local air pollution is a plus, as I hate being behind ICEV spewing their vile exhaust when on the scooter. That the govt & grid are at the control of fossil fuel corporations is out of my control. What I can control, I do, and try to be as eco friendly as possible. Hypocrisy - the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandersnatch Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Lacessit said: Show me where I have said EV cars are rubbish, please How about this post of yours linking to article that claimed that airtight sealed EV batteries would spontaneous combust if the car comes into contact with salt water. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said: How about this post of yours linking to article that claimed that airtight sealed EV batteries would spontaneous combust if the car comes into contact with salt water. Strange how some of you EV owners fear questions regarding them, I wouldn't fear questions regarding any of my petrol cars, even the one with a 1000psi gas bottle in the boot.........???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said: How about this post of yours linking to article that claimed that airtight sealed EV batteries would spontaneous combust if the car comes into contact with salt water. You use the word rubbish in your response, I don't. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Just now, Lacessit said: You use the word rubbish in your response, I don't. Hmmm, yes, well, I suppose EV owner deniers are now on the back foot not being able to really answer any sensible questions put to them.......???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JBChiangRai Posted August 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, transam said: Strange how some of you EV owners fear questions regarding them, I wouldn't fear questions regarding any of my petrol cars, even the one with a 1000psi gas bottle in the boot.........???? What are you smoking? I haven’t seen any EV owners here. Afraid of questions. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, transam said: Hmmm, yes, well, I suppose EV owner deniers are now on the back foot not being able to really answer any sensible questions put to them.......???? They claim to want an open-minded discussion, as long as it is in positive terms only. One hand clapping. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 27 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said: What are you smoking? I haven’t seen any EV owners here. Afraid of questions. Sorry, I don't smoke, but perhaps you do, but hopefully not your car.....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBChiangRai Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, transam said: Sorry, I don't smoke, but perhaps you do, but hopefully not your car.....???? No I only smoke the anti-EV’ers silly arguments 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confuscious Posted August 9, 2023 Author Share Posted August 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said: No I only smoke the anti-EV’ers silly arguments I don't have an EV, but I would like to know if they are sold with a portable electric generator on diesel or do you need to buy it yourself,? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said: No I only smoke the anti-EV’ers silly arguments Who are the anti-EV-ers, I see blokes asking questions and putting points forward, it seems you don't like facing questions and go down the anti-rout. How many times have I said we will ALL be driving electric cars in the future...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandersnatch Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, Lacessit said: They claim to want an open-minded discussion, as long as it is in positive terms only. One hand clapping. I have already proved that you are happy to post fact-free links bashing EVs. If you could stick to the facts instead of the FUD we could have a discussion. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Just now, Bandersnatch said: I have already proved that you are happy to post fact-free links bashing EVs. If you could stick to the facts instead of the FUD we could have a discussion. Oh, no you couldn't.................... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBChiangRai Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, Confuscious said: I don't have an EV, but I would like to know if they are sold with a portable electric generator on diesel or do you need to buy it yourself,? My came with a new fangled Nuclear Backup Battery 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBChiangRai Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, transam said: Oh, no you couldn't.................... Oh yes we could cue: pantomime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandersnatch Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, Confuscious said: don't have an EV, but I would like to know if they are sold with a portable electric generator on diesel or do you need to buy it yourself,? EVs are starting to be sold with solar panels attached so you don’t have to use the ones attached to your house. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBChiangRai Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, transam said: . How many times have I said we will ALL be driving electric cars in the future...???? Some of the enlightened already are 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Bandersnatch said: EVs are starting to be sold with solar panels attached so you don’t have to use the ones attached to your house. In Thailand............? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Just now, JBChiangRai said: Some of the enlightened already are Chopping my posts again..................???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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