spidermike007 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/19/2023 at 7:28 PM, StayinThailand2much said: Many locals don't tip, or slightly round up (e.g. bill is 590 baht, and they tip 10 baht). I personally used to tip about 10 percent, but over time 'went native', i.e. usually now just round up as well. More for good service at the barber, restaurants, or a taxi driver helping with the luggage (which has become rare). No, or minimal tip for mediocre service. And what about a kind hearted waitress, with a genuine smile and efficient service? Does she qualify for a 20 or 30 baht tip from you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitPudding Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 minute ago, spidermike007 said: And what about a kind hearted waitress, with a genuine smile and efficient service? Does she qualify for a 20 or 30 baht tip from you? No. Because I know she doesn't tip. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted August 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Scouse123 said: Thailand is a matriarchal society? I don't think so. Absolutely. Women run this country. Men are just the puppets. Without Thai women, this nation would grind to a halt in 48 hours. Not saying the men are emasculated like in the West. But, women here have alot more control and influence than you think. And that is a good thing. They have better judgment than men! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted August 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, FruitPudding said: No. Because I know she doesn't tip. How does one reply to a statement like that? Did you really consider it, before posting it? A waitress, who is trying to survive on $15-20 a day is expected to tip? And a foreigner who might have an income in the hundreds of thousands of baht a month, with many millions of baht invested is not? And somehow there is some equivalence? Huh? Edited August 21, 2023 by spidermike007 1 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitPudding Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 6 hours ago, Fairynuff said: Whether it’s the norm or not is irrelevant, it’s absolutely right to tip for good service and it will always be appreciated. Not always. I recently tipped 50 baht for a haircut (one of the few things I tip for anymore) after politely thanking him for a good job and the traditional-looking old Thai bloke took it without any sign of appreciation whatsoever. Was he too proud to show appreciation for the tip? Was it not enough? Did I insult him by thinking he needed more than the normal rate? Japanese people, for example, are insulted by tipping. I dunno. Anyway, next time I might not bother with that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: And what about a kind hearted waitress, with a genuine smile and efficient service? Does she qualify for a 20 or 30 baht tip from you? LOL. How do I know about her heart? But yes, efficient and good service deserves tipping. Depends on my order, though. If I ordered for, say, 120 baht, no way I'd tip 30 baht. Anyone who tips more than 10 to 15% is in my eyes either a sucker, or filthy rich, and I'm neither. Edited August 21, 2023 by StayinThailand2much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 38 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Absolutely. Women run this country. Men are just the puppets. Must be a bit like the "Barbie" movie in the beginning. (Didn't see it, but read a review.) - Barbies in control, doing everything, and Kens just hanging out, doing nothing... Reminded me of Thailand, LOL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Brickleberry said: I'm not offended in the slightest. I trust my wife completely, and she handles most of the bills in the home. Just pointing out the state of things. It also happens when we go shopping, if we pay in cash at 7/11, Big C, Makro etc. You know - that never happens to me... I speak Thai and they seem to realize that I mostly handle the money... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, FruitPudding said: No. Because I know she doesn't tip. Agree 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairynuff Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 5 hours ago, Scouse123 said: in your opinion! Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairynuff Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Ralf001 said: Ive done not very well paid jobs. Nobody gave me a tip.... for doing the job I was being paid to do. Am I supposed to be sympathetic ? Am I supposed to understand why you’re stingy? Am I supposed to care? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/19/2023 at 5:16 PM, Brickleberry said: No idea. Servers will always come to me for the money, but will always give the change back to my wife. Thais cannot resist the natural drive to take money from foreigners and give it to other Thais. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, spidermike007 said: And what about a kind hearted waitress, with a genuine smile and efficient service? Does she qualify for a 20 or 30 baht tip from you? What if I'm being even more kind and friendly to her? Do we share the tip? This isn't America. In most countries, basic human decency, or "being polite", isn't something people fake solely to get more money out of someone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, Fairynuff said: Am I supposed to be sympathetic ? Am I supposed to understand why you’re stingy? Am I supposed to care? Dont care to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairynuff Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 53 minutes ago, FruitPudding said: Not always. I recently tipped 50 baht for a haircut (one of the few things I tip for anymore) after politely thanking him for a good job and the traditional-looking old Thai bloke took it without any sign of appreciation whatsoever. Was he too proud to show appreciation for the tip? Was it not enough? Did I insult him by thinking he needed more than the normal rate? Japanese people, for example, are insulted by tipping. I dunno. Anyway, next time I might not bother with that guy. I’ve lost count of the times I’ve regretted leaving a tip. I don’t want anyone to grovel, that’s not why I tip, but to feel like you’ve done something wrong is not on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairynuff Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Ralf001 said: Dont care to be honest. That’s pretty obvious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Just now, Fairynuff said: That’s pretty obvious. Obvious in that I wont be guilt tripped into paying a tip ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, Fairynuff said: Am I supposed to be sympathetic ? Am I supposed to understand why you’re stingy? Am I supposed to care? Ranting? Bigot? only your opinion matters? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Ralf001 said: Obvious in that I wont be guilt tripped into paying a tip ? Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairynuff Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 59 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said: LOL. How do I know about her heart? But yes, efficient and good service deserves tipping. Depends on my order, though. If I ordered for, say, 120 baht, no way I'd tip 30 baht. Anyone who tips more than 10 to 15% is in my eyes either a sucker, or filthy rich, and I'm neither. Yeah you’d have to be filthy rich to leave more than 12 baht tip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairynuff Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ralf001 said: Obvious in that I wont be guilt tripped into paying a tip ? No, obvious that you really don’t care, particularly about people less fortunate than yourself. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexomike Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/19/2023 at 6:56 PM, Ralf001 said: Already paid to do their job, why should I spunk more on top ? Thailand isn't like western countries where the service people make better money, feel sorry for some of these people working for very low wages, doesn't bother me one bit to leave a little tip to make their day better. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairynuff Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Scouse123 said: Ranting? Bigot? only your opinion matters? What on earth are you on about? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, spidermike007 said: Absolutely. Women run this country. Men are just the puppets. Without Thai women, this nation would grind to a halt in 48 hours. Not saying the men are emasculated like in the West. But, women here have alot more control and influence than you think. And that is a good thing. They have better judgment than men! No, I don't accept. Government as in PM and DPM , males, cabinet nearly all males, military all males, Senate- males, house of representatives - males, Province governors nearly all male. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 3 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said: you berate me for what you accuse me of dictating - the other guy - you berate him for having an opinion... start your own forum and make a rule that nobody can post something you don't agree with.... You and the other guy resort to the name calling when other people do not share your views on tipping, you then try to force these views but belittling people who have different or opposing views. Why don't you start a forum? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsomeTallFarang Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) I tend to tip delivery people generously, even for (not unreasonably) late food delivery. I can more than afford it and I like to see the faces light up with a surprised smile, as they usually probably expect nothing. Round up a 220b cash delivery to 300b and watch the astonishment. ???? Edited August 21, 2023 by HandsomeTallFarang 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said: read some history if you are capable - why do you think there is sin sod? Ladies have value... but you are probably an 'i dont pay no sin sod' type guy - - assimilation must be really challenging with limited means. I have managed to be in the country and run a successful business and been here 30 years and also managed to be with the same partner for 27 years. Further managed to get myself educated and learn the Thai language and also managed to educate two girls , one who has finished university and the second, just about to finish this next year. I didn't need sin sod, I think I have managed to assimilate myself reasonably well. Ladies have value? Does that mean that males don't? What a weird thing to say. And here you go again with your posts,..... back to petty or snide insults. Can you not debate without sliding into insults or pretending you have a superior intellect or background? Because I doubt you do. Edited August 21, 2023 by Scouse123 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsomeTallFarang Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) On 8/19/2023 at 7:32 PM, Jingthing said: One thing I can't shake. Overtipping barbers especially if I'm using them regularly. It's definitely not the Thai custom but I just can't help it. Wow now that I think of it I'm guilty of this too. Used to see a guy here down sukhumvit and always left a good amount for tip, haircut was dirt cheap. 100 baht tip every time. Best haircuts ever and fresh razor blade straight razor line up neckline+ sideburns. He does a good job and it's only once a month or so. Edited August 21, 2023 by HandsomeTallFarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 give it to the girl as t he owners keep it and dont hand it over to the staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitPudding Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, spidermike007 said: How does one reply to a statement like that? Did you really consider it, before posting it? A waitress, who is trying to survive on $15-20 a day is expected to tip? And a foreigner who might have an income in the hundreds of thousands of baht a month, with many millions of baht invested is not? And somehow there is some equivalence? Huh? Let's suppose I have a bill of 1000 and I tip her 20% (200 baht). Then, she goes to a Thai restaurant with table service and spends the 200 baht on her food and a drink. Do you think she would tip 20% (40 baht) to the less fortunate waitress there? No chance. 20 baht? I don't think so. 10 baht? I doubt it. 5 baht? Maybe. 2-3 baht? Probably, if she doesn't want shrapnel in her purse. Now, just imagine that waitress is your own kid. ???? I happen to have Thai family who have worked service jobs. They get tipped nothing. Zero. Edited August 21, 2023 by FruitPudding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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