How-To Paint/Coat Unfinished-Rubberwood Door: Protect From Oils, Standing-Water

[GammaGlobulin]

Or, perhaps, it is not NONSENSE that people object to, around here...but maybe they....

 

Just prefer PRUDISHNESS....

 

 

Maybe they don't like to talk about.....

 

Anything alien to their ken.....?

 

 

YES...Cedric......

What?

You want to ban me?

Really?

Why?

 

 

 

Edited October 12, 2023 by GammaGlobulin

[GammaGlobulin]

All I can tell you is that Thailand Rubberwood is....

BETTER THAN

 

Norwegian Wood....

 

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

Since I have recently been accused of spouting NONSENSE....

 

What is Nonsense, anyway?

 

Is it the absurd?

 

Do you even know, CEDRIC, how to distinguish nonsense from sense?

I think NOT.....

 

There are ALL kinds of nonsense, Cedric.

 

 

YOU, Cedric...are an IDIOT!

 

Who would even hire you as a MOD, anyway?

 

 

 

IF I were talented enough to post, here, some NEW VERSION of the Jabberwocky....

Then would you, CEDRIC, ban me for doing so?

 

You TRULY are an idiot, Cedric.....

 

 

 

Cedric, the MOD here, would not know the meaning of NONSENSE if it hit him in the ass.

 

SUCH a little mind, has Cedric.

 

How can he even QUALIFY as a Mod on this great forum?

 

Such a tiny mind!

 

Get rid of this guy!

 

I mean.....

Who would even wish to post on a forum with Cedric around?

 

 

 

 

Edited October 12, 2023 by GammaGlobulin

[GammaGlobulin]

Anyway:  Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.

 

Please inform Cedric.

 

 

[sometimewoodworker]

8 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

My hands are now so sticky...

And, this stuff just cannot be washed off the hands....

No Way

No How.

 

WEAR GLOVES!

I have used the protego products, I always use surgical gloves but when they break I can clean off my hands using one of the thinners AAA, acetone, alcohol or another specialist one. However all are vey nasty and must then be washed off immediately or you can get chemical burns.
 

As for washing them off I will usually use alcohol then detergent then soap and may need several different washings, my experience is I have never found anything I couldn’t wash off the same day, but then I have at least 5 or 6 things I can use including super concentrated, virtually pure, detergent.

 

9 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

bb.  So therefore, since I was COMPLETELY UNABLE to buy Polyurethane, which is WHAT I WANTED, after reading all your good suggestions....  

poly is available, both solvent and water based, I use it on most of my projects and have been using the water based stuff for over 10 years, it used to be called Rothenberg but is now RTB it was only available in HomrPro, that I ever found, but now is almost exclusively on Lazada 

 

Under, from 2012 

Edited October 13, 2023 by sometimewoodworker

[Wongkitlo]

On 8/31/2023 at 7:09 AM, Pogust said:

Any polyurethan will be fine. Use well diluted for primer. then sand off the fibers that raise up before next layer. It can be brushed on thicker than most other varnishes when it is two part. But consider putting a third layer on,  it will look so much better and create a better seal of the wood.

 

You say  'well diluted' am guessing you mean with a thinner. Is it truecthat if you use a primer instead you do not need to dilute it. 

 

[sometimewoodworker]

I personally use shellac as my primer as it goes over everything and everything goes over it.

 

after the first coat I never thin finish unless it can’t be sprayed because it’s too viscous.

Edited October 16, 2023 by sometimewoodworker

[GammaGlobulin]

On 10/13/2023 at 1:57 AM, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Maybe...

Maybe one should just ask oneself....

 

What would Slocum use......?

 

 

Joshua Slocum, the SUPREME yacht builder and single-handed sailor of ALL F'ng time... chased by headhunters,... 

 

I just really wonder what JUICE he might have used on my doors... 

 

Of course... I should know.. Or I should be able to find out... Because... Slocum also documented much of his boat building, caulking, and varnishing, too! 

 

Slocum seems to have been an amazing woodworker as well as one of the finest seamen to come out of New England. 

 

Any guy here interested in woodworking should surely be interested in reading his accounts... 

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Joshua Slocum, the SUPREME yacht builder and single-handed sailor of ALL F'ng time... chased by headhunters,... 

 

I just really wonder what JUICE he might have used on my doors... 

 

Of course... I should know.. Or I should be able to find out... Because... Slocum also documented much of his boat building, caulking, and varnishing, too! 

 

Slocum seems to have been an amazing woodworker as well as one of the finest seamen to come out of New England. 

 

Any guy here interested in woodworking should surely be interested in reading his accounts... 

 

 

PS...to all you MODS out there....

 

If you do not like the way my mind wanders from painting doors to the singlehanded navigation of world, while heading down into the Southern Seas, then I feel sorry for you.

 

But, if you check it out, Slocum was a woodworker, and knew the best coatings for wood, which kept his boat tight in the harshest of conditions....

 

CEDRIC, Man....

 

Where are you now, My Friend....?

 

YOU are the MOD who should be banned, and NOT I.....me thinks....

 

Haha....

What a FOOL (buffoon) you are!!!!!

 

 

Edited October 16, 2023 by GammaGlobulin

[GammaGlobulin]

By the way, guys.....

 

I have ABSOLUTE RESPECT for all you great woodworkers, out there....!

 

Joshua Slocum is my WOODWORKER HERO, because, not only was he a peerless woodworker, but he could also sail anywhere he wanted, and repair his wooden boat, come what may....!

 

 

 

This guy is NOT such a learned person....

But...this OLD GUY is quite "cute".

 

JOSHUA SLOCUM is really my hero...

I have read a LOT about Joshua....

 

What a F'ng Woodworker....

 

Maybe somebody else might want to add, here, some more INFO about Joshua Slocum....?

 

Ups to you!

 

 

Woodworking is a talent that has been with us since Christ....(haha!)

 

 

[retarius]

I can't help thinking you are overthinking this. Take it to a carpenter and ask him to finish it. 

[GammaGlobulin]

25 minutes ago, retarius said:

I can't help thinking you are overthinking this. Take it to a carpenter and ask him to finish it. 

No, Man!

Not overthinking in ANY way!!!!

 

But, I always think....

If I were Joshua Slocum....such a GENIUS woodworker, AND peerless seafarer of wooden boats....

 

Then...

 

What wood I do, with my doors?

 

(Also, my doors have failed....because....the surface of the doors feels like SANDPAPER....very ROUGH!!!!  I think it must have been because I did not sand enough between coats of this DECKING OIL....   (This product, I wish I had NEVER used, in the first place....))...

 

Oh well...

 

Maybe in my NEXT life...

I will get things right, for a change....

 

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Woodworking is a talent that has been with us since Christ....(haha!)

You know....even though this guy is just working on a "model"....

STILL, he is a STICKLER for detail ......

 

And he cares so much about getting the stains right, and EVERYTHING done so well....

 

Any woodworker, I think, might enjoy this video of the building of the reproduction of Slocum's SPRAY!!!!

 

 

[retarius]

36 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

No, Man!

Not overthinking in ANY way!!!!

 

But, I always think....

If I were Joshua Slocum....such a GENIUS woodworker, AND peerless seafarer of wooden boats....

 

Then...

 

What wood I do, with my doors?

 

(Also, my doors have failed....because....the surface of the doors feels like SANDPAPER....very ROUGH!!!!  I think it must have been because I did not sand enough between coats of this DECKING OIL....   (This product, I wish I had NEVER used, in the first place....))...

 

Oh well...

 

Maybe in my NEXT life...

I will get things right, for a change....

 

 

 

Joshua Slocum might have been working with real wood grown on actual trees and stuff and oils made from. actual fruit, not drilled from the wells in the ground then refined. Who knows. I know it doesn't sound believable but it used to happen....people chopped trees down with axes and made garden furniture with them. I remember going to Muir Woods once and they have 2000 year old redwood trees there..... I couldn't believe that loggers wanted to fell the trees and make decking from it. Barbarians in my opinion. 

In my own experience I could never do jobs around the house because all jobs turned out <deleted>ty because  your eye goes immediately to the flaw. At least when a "craftsman" has screwed a job up, say with a glaring sludge of oil dripping all the way down to the carpet, you only look at it once. When you do it yourself you are condemned to looking at it every time you use the door. 

[GammaGlobulin]

One more thing....

 

I realize that most people here believe that.... I have NO CLASS...when it comes to the appreciation of wood.

 

But....

Not TRUE, guys!

 

Take a look at this:!!!!

 

 

My love of wood, and getting wood, has a long history....

 

Artisans who are talented enough to create TRUE BEAUTY from wood....

Are guys to be valued for their true gifts!

 

I just think that the guys who are able to create this beauty are NOT appreciated enough, by most people.

 

Today....it's all about IKEA garbage...!!!!

And so, we become lesser mortals just through our acceptance of IKEA Crappola!

 

https://www.stagandsquire.co.uk/shop/early-20th-century-windsor-chair-by-druce-and-co

 

Beauty is something that is still important.

 

 

Edited October 19, 2023 by GammaGlobulin

[Elkski]

The epoxy coating seems best for cooking. 

[GammaGlobulin]

1 hour ago, Elkski said:

The epoxy coating seems best for cooking. 

Cooking can have a different meaning among the druggies.

 

I hope that this was not your allusion....

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

There is just something about wood, and the beauty of it, and the pure design of it.....

 

Quite special, ....really....

 

 

I love beautifully worked wood.

 

But, I am just too much an A-hole to even attempt it....

 

And, I am too cheap to buy it.

 

Still.....

I APPRECIATE it.....!

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

Also, speaking of being "wooden"....

 

Jeff Beck was NEVER wooden in his playing.

 

This is why, even today, it's possible to listen to Jeff Beck....always like new.

 

JS Bach and J Beck are birds of a feather....

 

Although one was greater than the other, why should I care????

 

 

 

There is BEAUTY in Beck's mastery of his guitar.

There is, obviously, BEAUTY in JS Bach, playing for his God.

And, in woodworking, when you see something of beauty, then there IS NO difference....

 

You just gotta cry!

 

 

Edited October 19, 2023 by GammaGlobulin

[GammaGlobulin]

1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said:

You just gotta cry!

Well, although it might be unreasonable to cry over a chair...

 

Still, it IS reasonable to weep over the perfection of a beautifully crafted wooden chair....

 

And, this ain't no lie....

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

I'm talking BEAUTY, now, my friends.

 

When you see it....

You recognize it.

 

Beauty can happen almost ANYWHERE....

 

It can easily happen in the art of woodworking, especially....

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

23 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Beauty can happen almost ANYWHERE....

In my opinion, J. Beck is the REINCARNATION of JS Bach.

I know the same magnificence when I hear it.

 

And, it's really the same for TRUE BEAUTY, almost anywhere.

 

Have I gone off the deep end?

NO!

 

Shipwrights  have been singing, rhapsodic, for thousands of years....about their woodcraft.

 

I am no different in the praises I sing here.

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

Plastic VS Wood....

 

You decide....

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

I was born in a world of WOOD and, maybe, Bakelite....

 

But, most of you guys reading my words have been born in a world filled with NOTHING but PLASTIC....

 

Says a lot about BOTH you and me....

 

Right?

 

You guys don't even know what BAKELITE might be....right?

 

Polyoxybenzylmethyleneglycolanhydride!

 

 

 

WOOD is Good!

 

And, Bakelite is not bad.....

 

Polymerization is the KEY to Organic Chemistry.

 

I have NOTHING against polymerization, actually....

 

After all....POLYURETHANE is......what?

 

Some sort of long chain molecule?

 

 

 

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

Anyway....ANY TIME...you see a POLY........

 

The FIRST thing you need to think about is a VERY LONG chain molecule....

 

Why do you think they call POLYPEPTIDES ....POLY?

 

If it were not for POLLY...that girl....

Nobody would even be HUMAN!

 

I think, if you really want to become a TRUE woodworker, then...

It's always good to know a bit of Organic Chemistry....

 

And, I am NOT talking Sniffing Glue, here, guys....!

 

 

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

 

Looks like a few HEXAGONAL BONDS here....

 

Maybe sounds like BENZENE ring....but....NOT.

 

I am just saying...

 

By now...I have forgotten ALMOST ALL the organic chemistry I once knew...

Which was not much....

 

Still...

I have GREAT respect for outstanding Chemists worth their salt....

 

Richard Smalley....for one...

 

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

9 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

This guy is NOT such a learned person....

But...this OLD GUY is quite "cute".

Anytime I see someone who has a passion and a talent for METICULOUS model building, whether it be out of wood, or some other material....I am very impressed.

 

And I am ALSO always reminded of this film, too....

 

 

Joshua Slocum MUST have been a very unique individual...because..otherwise....

 

WHY Would I be talking about him, after all these years, if he had not been.

 

What an inspiration he was, and is....

 

Models, SOMETIMES, are NOT just models.

 

And we build models to test in wind tunnels, made out of wood, sometimes....

 

Our first aircraft were of wood....

 

And, Even The Great Waldo Pepper flew aircraft made out of wood and glue.....and canvas 

 

 

Such a shame that anyone needs to die in war, though.

 

Still, the Blue Max is good for those wondering how to make an airplane out of cloth, glue and wood, maybe....

 

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

Looking at the doors that I finished...

 

I am reminded of why I did not continue to study SHOP in 7th grade....

 

I had not the ARTISTIC touch....

 

It was not that I botched everything I touched, willingly...

 

I just was not good at it.

 

I was like a potter without a wheel.

 

Thankfully, I left public school, in the USA, after 7th grade....

NO MORE SHOP, for me in boarding school.

 

Still, I might have stayed in public school, ...

IF only I had been better at SHOP classes....

 

The PROBLEM with SHOP in 7th grade is that they never asked the students to make something BEAUTIFUL, from wood.

 

Always the same old things...

Like a coat rack to hang on the wall....

 

And, there are just TOO MANY coat racks in this world, already....

 

Why didn't they TEACH US to carve wood....INSTEAD?
 

 

[degrub]

15 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Post trimmed.
 

(Also, my doors have failed....because....the surface of the doors feels like SANDPAPER....very ROUGH!!!!  I think it must have been because I did not sand enough between coats of this DECKING OIL....   (This product, I wish I had NEVER used, in the first place....))...

 

Oh well...

 

Maybe in my NEXT life...

I will get things right, for a change....

 

>> lkely you have either 1) air bubbles, and/or  2) dust/dirt / sanding debris from between coats.  You will have to sand it out again lightly and recoat.  You may have to take it back to bare wood if really bad. 

 

 

 

 

>> lkely you have either 1) air bubbles, and/or  2) dust/dirt / sanding debris from between coats.  You will have to sand it out again lightly and recoat.  You may have to take it back to bare wood if really bad. 

 

Edited October 20, 2023 by degrub
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[GammaGlobulin]

Just an update, Folks, about PROTEGO Deck Coating product:

 

a.  I love it.  I used the matte finish of Protego Deck Coating.

 

b.  Using it the first time, I was unaware just how caustic it can be.  But, if one is very careful to not get the stuff on the hands, then all is good.

 

c.  The first time I used this product, I was not careful enough.  For example, when part of my foam applicator fell apart and drowned in the bucket of Protego, I dipped both hands, up to the wrists, in the bucket of this goo, and I had no inkling of it's effects on exposed skin.

 

d.  Also, the only reason I did this was because I had drunk about a half-bottle of Rémy Martin, the expensive vintage, and I could have cared less about my hands, at the time.  And, it was about 6 weeks before the skin of my hands got back to half-way normal.  Still, the old hands are the worse off for my stupidity.

 

Therefore, either wear gloves, or just be very careful when you apply Protego Deck Coating.

 

e.  Protego, according to my experience, seems to provide an extremely resilient finish for a computer desk, or a study desk.  Also, if you use the matte finish, you won't need a mouse pad, either.  My mouse tracks VERY well when using it on Protego....

 

f.  Protego is probably not the CHEAPEST product you might choose.  I paid about Bt.500 for, like, about, not even a liter. Still, the learning curve of ruining the skin on my hands was well worth the final result.

 

g.  One thing though...  I chose to apply the Protego at night, at about 3:00 AM, and there were plenty of bugs about, and they embedded themselves in the surface before it was dry.  So, try to avoid this, if you can.

 

h.  Am I very satisfied with the Protego?  Yes.  I am.  I rarely give RAVE REVIEWS to any product.  But, I like this stuff.

 

i.  Also, I have never worn surgical gloves, myself, while using this product.  After my first experience, I chose to just be super careful.  I was careful to not get even one drop on my skin.  And, if you don't drink half a bottle of Rémy Martin cognac while doing this application, then you should have no difficulties, either.

 

Now, I am a happy camper with PLENTY of desk space.

I have just this moment finished up my SIXTH Rubberwood Unfinished Door, each 1 meter by 2 meters.  Therefore, I now have 12 square meters of workspace.  Plenty of room for computers, books, scanners, and even a GF, if I only had one...

 

Cheers!