Popular Post Mr Meeseeks Posted September 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said: Ok, how do you call a prime minister who committed crimes? There was lots of evidence and he was convicted. The fact that a criminal was also a PM doesn't make him innocent. If Thaksin would be innocent then he could point out wrong or fake evidence which was used to convict him. Did he ever do that or even mention this? No. Because there is no doubt that he is guilty as charged. Court cases are not always perfect. And it seems every ex-politician shouts "political prosecution" when they are prosecuted. That does not make them innocent. And about the people who removed Thaksin from power: Maybe they will be prosecuted one day. Or would you like to put them in prison without any court case? You don't seem to understand that even if the cases and evidence had merit, due to him being removed in a coup then any subsequent legal proceedings will be regarded as politically motivated, and rightly so. To suggest that the courts acted impartially or without bias would be absolutely ridiculous, as the junta appointed the panels and committees to 'find' evidence against him. Most notably was the Assets Examination Committee (AEC), which disregarded witnesses and evidence only to charge Thaksin and freeze his accounts. According to the AEC Secretary the “evidence and witnesses are useless” and did not need to be taken into consideration. There were 300 witnesses and over 100 pieces of evidence which were ignored by the AEC. As to your allegation that Thaksin didn't mention fake evidence, thus it must have merit, he pleaded not guilty and had plenty of evidence to support his cases. See the above example. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, rabas said: Lol, almost Thai logic: 1. Thaksin has no need to enrich himself. 2. All Thai do. I don't know how people who do understand Thaksin are coping, but is seems those who don't can't. Why do the people who you claim 'understand Thaksin', seem to be completely obsessed by him, and have made thousands of posts about him, over the period of many years, even decades? ???? More importantly, why are their arguments always emotional and opinionated, rather than factual, logical and evidence-based? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBird Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 On 9/9/2023 at 3:09 AM, OneMoreFarang said: It's not really a surprise that the criminal won't spend too much time in jail. If he wouldn't have a deal, he wouldn't have returned to Thailand. I think the big question for the future is if Thaksin will be quiet and play with his grandchildren or if he will be even more active in politics than he was already when he was officially not involved. And will PT include him on stage as the all-knowing leader? Thaksin's downfall was his big mouth together with his criminal behavior. Will he do more of the same? Will he continue to behave like he is above the law? If yes, then another crisis for Thailand won't be far. I hope the best, but I would be very surprised if he would just shut up. Once the money starts to run out criminal con-men like Thaksin are going to turn to what they know best. Conning people out of their money and making it seem like he is doing you a favor while he is doing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 October the 13th it's a Friday, bad karma on it's way 555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crazykopite Posted September 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just goes to show you money can buy anything in Thailand even your freedom from a risen sentence if you do the crime you should do the time ???????????? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 6 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: You don't seem to understand that even if the cases and evidence had merit, due to him being removed in a coup then any subsequent legal proceedings will be regarded as politically motivated, and rightly so. To suggest that the courts acted impartially or without bias would be absolutely ridiculous, as the junta appointed the panels and committees to 'find' evidence against him. Most notably was the Assets Examination Committee (AEC), which disregarded witnesses and evidence only to charge Thaksin and freeze his accounts. According to the AEC Secretary the “evidence and witnesses are useless” and did not need to be taken into consideration. There were 300 witnesses and over 100 pieces of evidence which were ignored by the AEC. As to your allegation that Thaksin didn't mention fake evidence, thus it must have merit, he pleaded not guilty and had plenty of evidence to support his cases. See the above example. Save your breath. One can never reason with indoctrinated obsessiveness. ....and so it goes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeMachine Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 There is one person I need to mention from Bangkok post forums. Mr lessismore was getting so much flak for his negative review of Thaksin. But by Jingo the chap was absolutely spot on. Regards to you Lessy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bfc1980 Posted September 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2023 On 9/9/2023 at 6:34 AM, 2baht said: Cut to the chase, let him out now, someone sick needs that hospital bed! ???? It's not just 1 bed he's taking up. He has taken over the entire floor of the hospital VIP ward even though he's only using 1 room. Somebody somewhere is bwing paid a fair amount of cash in brown envelope for this to happen as those rooms are supposed to be for top brass police. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Air con, a fridge and sofa: Thaksin Shinawatra’s ‘VVIP’ prison life in Thailand Activists claim the former PM has received special treatment at a special hospital ward, which stands in stark contrast to the overcrowded prison system https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/11/air-con-a-fridge-and-sofa-thaksin-shinawatras-vvip-prison-life-in-thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 On 9/10/2023 at 5:49 AM, Mr Meeseeks said: Why do the people who you claim 'understand Thaksin', seem to be completely obsessed by him, and have made thousands of posts about him, over the period of many years, even decades? ???? More importantly, why are their arguments always emotional and opinionated, rather than factual, logical and evidence-based? The answer about them Anti Thaksin behaving so is : pure frustration ????.... never mind those too much , homecoming it's done and dusted & nothing they can change on that While the whole N- East and Chang mai are celebrating and they welcome his homecoming 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 On 9/10/2023 at 12:15 PM, TimeMachine said: There is one person I need to mention from Bangkok post forums. Mr lessismore was getting so much flak for his negative review of Thaksin. But by Jingo the chap was absolutely spot on. Regards to you Lessy. Mr lessismore was getting so much flak for his negative review of Thaksin. You could ask yourself why he got so much flak ......? Easy .....! Thaksin is loved by so many more than the Thaksin haters 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, david555 said: The answer about them Anti Thaksin behaving so is : pure frustration ????.... never mind those too much , homecoming it's done and dusted & nothing they can change on that While the whole N- East and Chang mai are celebrating and they welcome his homecoming Certainly not in my area of Kalasin, if my wife's family are anything to go by. They pretty much think that PT sold its soul to the devil for the sake of Thaksin and as a result are definitley not cheering about his return. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, GarryP said: Certainly not in my area of Kalasin, if my wife's family are anything to go by. They pretty much think that PT sold its soul to the devil for the sake of Thaksin and as a result are definitley not cheering about his return. Maybe they change their mind in future if they see how in future Thaksin go play his cards ..... remember he is a master in strategy ....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, david555 said: Maybe they change their mind in future if they see how in future Thaksin go play his cards ..... remember he is a master in strategy ....... Difficult when he needs to bow to the junta parties and the elite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, GarryP said: Certainly not in my area of Kalasin, if my wife's family are anything to go by. They pretty much think that PT sold its soul to the devil for the sake of Thaksin and as a result are definitley not cheering about his return. Wait until they get the 10,000thb in crypto ???? People are fickle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, GarryP said: Difficult when he needs to bow to the junta parties and the elite. Things changed apparently and all need each other ..... No hate to MF from me ..., but their popular 112 vote winning plan from the young , plan blocked them for Governing , if not so , together with PT they would became a massive group..... but an impossible to realize promise blocked them by themself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Thaksin is terminally sick. He as no wish other than to die at home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobbyClarke Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Fabulous news. Many many Thai people think the man is marvelous. Of course he will be involved. This situation has been planned for a long time. Very nice to see a big change on the horizon for Thailand. Let's hope things improve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 13 hours ago, RanongCat said: Thaksin is terminally sick. He as no wish other than to die at home. I wouldn’t be so sure. A former boss of mine (a Kiwi with ties to Thailand) told me he was terminally ill, so I would continue to manage his company in Thailand and do his bidding. He was nothing but a manipulator and conman. Unfortunately in this World, there exist people that have no ethics nor morals whatsoever, and Thai politics is full of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quake Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 13 hours ago, RanongCat said: Thaksin is terminally sick. He as no wish other than to die at home. There was me thinking it was just all doom and gloom on this thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 What a farce 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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