McCarthy vows to strip Ukraine money from Pentagon bill after Greene ‘no’ vote

[impulse]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Of course, no leftards helped clean up after that, right?

The polite term is "lefties".  You'll never hear or read me referring to them in that derogatory way.  You racist...

 

 

[ozimoron]

7 minutes ago, impulse said:

The polite term is "lefties".  You'll never hear or read me referring to them in that derogatory way.  You racist...

I'm trying to use words you'd relate to in order to draw a comparison that makes your assertion look as ridiculous as it is.

 

Even more ridiculous is characterising politics as racism. Did you post in the wrong thread?

Edited September 23, 2023 by ozimoron

[impulse]

12 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Even more ridiculous is characterising politics as racism. Did you post in the wrong thread?

But that's what lefties do.  They scream racism every time they disagree with someone.  Just wanted you to feel at home.

 

You still haven't answered my question about the last time you actually met a MAGA person or darkened the shore of the USA.  Or are you relying on the MSM for your characterization of MAGA?

 

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, impulse said:

But that's what lefties do.  They scream racism every time they disagree with someone.  Just wanted you to feel at home.

 

You still haven't answered my question about the last time you actually met a MAGA person or darkened the shore of the USA.  Or are you relying on the MSM for your characterization of MAGA?

 

A person in a MAGA  hat. Non existent in Thailand. I have never been to the US. I understand that many MAGA people there are deeply racist. Is that true?

[impulse]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

I understand that many MAGA people there are deeply racist. Is that true?

Not the ones I knew.  But they are anti-crime.  Which seems to be construed as racist by lefties.    I'm against criminals, so I must be against black people, (obviously because black people are criminals).  And that, itself is racist.  But lefties don't see it that way.

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

Not the ones I knew.  But they are anti-crime.  Which seems to be construed as racist by lefties.    I'm against criminals, so I must be against black people, (obviously because black people are criminals).  And that, itself is racist.  But lefties don't see it that way.

And yet all those anti crime crusaders in MAGA hats were rioting in and ransacking the Capitol? How does that compute?

[impulse]

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

And yet all those anti crime crusaders in MAGA hats were rioting in and ransacking the Capitol? How does that compute?

You mean the ones that had gub'ment issued haircuts and earbuds and all wore the same khaki pants?

 

Never would have happened had the DOJ cracked down during the summer of love and mostly peaceful city burnings.  Dems even raised money to bail out the looters and burners.  Not hard to imagine that emboldened bad behavior on Jan6.

 

Don't you think it's strange that a grandmother who simply walked through a door held open by a cop got more prison time than someone who burned down a city block during the summer of love?  Or that cops who restrained a drug addled criminal (Floyd) while he died with a lethal dose of fentanyl in him got sent to prison, while a capital police officer who shot an unarmed woman (Babbitt) wasn't even investigated?

 

Don't even get me started on how Pelosi made Jan6 happen, deliberately.  By refusing Trump's offer of Nat'l Guard protection.  Because for her cause, Jan6 had to happen.

[ozimoron]

5 minutes ago, impulse said:

You mean the ones that had gub'ment issued haircuts and earbuds and all wore the same khaki pants?

 

Never would have happened had the DOJ cracked down during the summer of love and mostly peaceful city burnings.  Dems even raised money to bail out the looters and burners.  Not hard to imagine that emboldened bad behavior on Jan6.

 

Don't you think it's strange that a grandmother who simply walked through a door held open by a cop got more prison time than someone who burned down a city block during the summer of love?  Or that cops who restrained a drug addled criminal (Floyd) while he died with a lethal dose of fentanyl in him got sent to prison, while a capital police officer who shot an unarmed woman (Babbitt) wasn't even investigated?

 

Don't even get me started on how Pelosi made Jan6 happen, deliberately.  By refusing Trump's offer of Nat'l Guard protection.  Because for her cause, Jan6 had to happen.

It did happen and was all those MAGA anti crime vigilantes you support. You can't blame someone else for their actions and now they have decades to think long and hard about it.

 

That Babbit's killing was not investigated is a flagrant lie. That would be an impossibility.

Edited September 24, 2023 by ozimoron

[earlinclaifornia]

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4220034-mccarthy-backtracks-says-he-will-keep-ukraine-aid-in-pentagon-funding-bill/

[stevenl]

2 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4220034-mccarthy-backtracks-says-he-will-keep-ukraine-aid-in-pentagon-funding-bill/

And another link. So much for the value of McCarthy's vows.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/23/mccarthy-ukraine-aid-00117801

[placeholder]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

You mean the ones that had gub'ment issued haircuts and earbuds and all wore the same khaki pants?

 

Never would have happened had the DOJ cracked down during the summer of love and mostly peaceful city burnings.  Dems even raised money to bail out the looters and burners.  Not hard to imagine that emboldened bad behavior on Jan6.

 

Don't you think it's strange that a grandmother who simply walked through a door held open by a cop got more prison time than someone who burned down a city block during the summer of love?  Or that cops who restrained a drug addled criminal (Floyd) while he died with a lethal dose of fentanyl in him got sent to prison, while a capital police officer who shot an unarmed woman (Babbitt) wasn't even investigated?

 

Don't even get me started on how Pelosi made Jan6 happen, deliberately.  By refusing Trump's offer of Nat'l Guard protection.  Because for her cause, Jan6 had to happen.

Mostly silly rhetorical questions.  The one actual assertion I see here is the claim that  "Pelosi made Jan6 happen, deliberately.  By refusing Trump's offer of Nat'l Guard protection." Got any evidence to support that beyond an assertion made by Donald Trump? Remember, this is the same person who denied he watched the insurrectionists as they invaded the Capitol even though members of his own staff and others present during the event said otherwise.

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Mostly silly rhetorical questions.  The one actual assertion I see here is the claim that  "Pelosi made Jan6 happen, deliberately.  By refusing Trump's offer of Nat'l Guard protection." Got any evidence to support that beyond an assertion made by Donald Trump? Remember, this is the same person who denied he watched the insurrectionists as they invaded the Capitol even though members of his own staff and others present during the event said otherwise.

Pelosi had no authority to refuse the national guard.

[placeholder]

3 hours ago, impulse said:

But that's what lefties do.  They scream racism every time they disagree with someone.  Just wanted you to feel at home.

 

You still haven't answered my question about the last time you actually met a MAGA person or darkened the shore of the USA.  Or are you relying on the MSM for your characterization of MAGA?

 

Actually, this post demonstraties what right-wingers like you do. Basically, they post over-the-top generalizations such as "But that's what lefties do.  They scream racism every time they disagree with someone.  Just wanted you to feel at home."

[placeholder]

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Pelosi had no authority to refuse the national guard.

That is an excellent point. What impulse posted is based on an assertion made by Trump. Anyone who makes assertions solely based on claims made by Donald Trump, is treading on very shaky grounds.

[ozimoron]

3 hours ago, impulse said:

You mean the ones that had gub'ment issued haircuts and earbuds and all wore the same khaki pants?

 

Never would have happened had the DOJ cracked down during the summer of love and mostly peaceful city burnings.  Dems even raised money to bail out the looters and burners.  Not hard to imagine that emboldened bad behavior on Jan6.

 

Don't you think it's strange that a grandmother who simply walked through a door held open by a cop got more prison time than someone who burned down a city block during the summer of love?  Or that cops who restrained a drug addled criminal (Floyd) while he died with a lethal dose of fentanyl in him got sent to prison, while a capital police officer who shot an unarmed woman (Babbitt) wasn't even investigated?

 

Don't even get me started on how Pelosi made Jan6 happen, deliberately.  By refusing Trump's offer of Nat'l Guard protection.  Because for her cause, Jan6 had to happen.

Fact Check: Did Pelosi Reject Trump’s Request for National Guard Troops on January 6?

A claim from Donald Trump Jr. is false.

 

https://thedispatch.com/article/fact-check-did-pelosi-reject-trumps-request-for-national-guard-troops-on-january-6/

[Purdey]

If only America wasn't a two party system, at least people would have more choice. Like in a democracy.

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Purdey said:

If only America wasn't a two party system, at least people would have more choice. Like in a democracy.

Agree. It needs preferential voting or ranked voting as Americans call it. It does exist in some states. Without that, they'll never get a decent democracy.

[eisfeld]

9 hours ago, impulse said:

I live in a neighborhood in Texas surrounded by guys in MAGA hats and Trump flags in their yards.  They're the guys who were out helping their neighbors that summer when we had 4 tropical storms blow through and flood the whole neighborhood 4 times in a summer.  They're the guys cooking brisket, sausage and fish at the church barbeque.  They're the guys who organize the neighborhood holiday golf cart parades and the Easter egg hunt for the kids.   They're the guys offering the elderly shut-ins rides to go shopping and to get their jabs.

 

So don't pretend to lecture me about the behavior of MAGA people.  I live with them.  It's especially rich coming from a crowd here, 75% of whom haven't even been to the States since MAGA came into being.

 

 

Nobody said that 100% of MAGA supporters are bad. But in reverse just because some are good does not mean they all are good. That's just one more logical fallacy. Like I said, disingenuous at best.

[xylophone]

9 hours ago, impulse said:

You mean the ones that had gub'ment issued haircuts and earbuds and all wore the same khaki pants?

 

Never would have happened had the DOJ cracked down during the summer of love and mostly peaceful city burnings.  Dems even raised money to bail out the looters and burners.  Not hard to imagine that emboldened bad behavior on Jan6.

 

Don't you think it's strange that a grandmother who simply walked through a door held open by a cop got more prison time than someone who burned down a city block during the summer of love?  Or that cops who restrained a drug addled criminal (Floyd) while he died with a lethal dose of fentanyl in him got sent to prison, while a capital police officer who shot an unarmed woman (Babbitt) wasn't even investigated?

 

Don't even get me started on how Pelosi made Jan6 happen, deliberately.  By refusing Trump's offer of Nat'l Guard protection.  Because for her cause, Jan6 had to happen.

Absolute and utter poppycock and codswallop again........not difficult to see how trump's lies found fertile ground in amongst the MAGA crew.

[khunJam]

6 hours ago, placeholder said:

Mostly silly rhetorical questions.  The one actual assertion I see here is the claim that  "Pelosi made Jan6 happen, deliberately.  By refusing Trump's offer of Nat'l Guard protection." Got any evidence to support that beyond an assertion made by Donald Trump? Remember, this is the same person who denied he watched the insurrectionists as they invaded the Capitol even though members of his own staff and others present during the event said otherwise.

Do you have actual evidence that doesn’t support it? No you don’t. Yet there are witnesses of the fact that were not called to testify in the commie leftist jan 6 circus that gave you a thrill 

[khunJam]

6 hours ago, Purdey said:

If only America wasn't a two party system, at least people would have more choice. Like in a democracy.

The dream of the invidious extremist left. Here’s a test, if anyone thinks it’s a good idea to and wants to abolish all republicans and conservatives from the USA government, then absolutely they are an extremist leftist, as in Xi, Hugo C and the idol C Marx. 
The United States legislative system is the best in the world except for those who want to change it-easily identified here of the anti American freedom gang. 

[rudi49jr]

1 hour ago, khunJam said:

The dream of the invidious extremist left. Here’s a test, if anyone thinks it’s a good idea to and wants to abolish all republicans and conservatives from the USA government, then absolutely they are an extremist leftist, as in Xi, Hugo C and the idol C Marx. 
The United States legislative system is the best in the world except for those who want to change it-easily identified here of the anti American freedom gang. 

The United States legislative system is the best in the world
 

Except it’s not, as was demonstrated by Trump and his cronies who almost managed to overthrow the result of a legitimate election. Why can’t you guys do like most (real, normal) democracies do: one man/woman, one vote. No one has to register to vote, when you turn 18 you’re automatically allowed to vote. It’s really very simple and that is what a democracy is, not that silly system that you have with the electors and the gerrymandering and whatnot.

And maybe you should look up what communist and radical left and such mean before you accuse everyone and their uncle of being a commie or extremist left, just because you happen to disagree with them. Just a suggestion…

[placeholder]

2 hours ago, khunJam said:

Do you have actual evidence that doesn’t support it? No you don’t. Yet there are witnesses of the fact that were not called to testify in the commie leftist jan 6 circus that gave you a thrill 

So, whenever Trump claims something, no matter how nonsensical, if there are no witnesses to refute it, that counts as solid evidence?

First off, we know that Nancy Pelosi had no power to approve or disapprove the stationing of troops at the Capitol. Second, we also know from multiple witnesses that Trump didn't send troops to the Capitol even though the White House was repeatedly contacted by various persons imploring assistance, including Mike Pence.  Finally, we also know that Trump denied watching the insurrectionists even though, by the accounts of a number of people in the White House, he was glued to the TV set showing the insurrection in progress.

[stevenl]

2 hours ago, khunJam said:

The dream of the invidious extremist left. Here’s a test, if anyone thinks it’s a good idea to and wants to abolish all republicans and conservatives from the USA government, then absolutely they are an extremist leftist, as in Xi, Hugo C and the idol C Marx. 
The United States legislative system is the best in the world except for those who want to change it-easily identified here of the anti American freedom gang. 

Karl Marx, so a 'K' please.

[placeholder]

2 hours ago, khunJam said:

The dream of the invidious extremist left. Here’s a test, if anyone thinks it’s a good idea to and wants to abolish all republicans and conservatives from the USA government, then absolutely they are an extremist leftist, as in Xi, Hugo C and the idol C Marx. 
The United States legislative system is the best in the world except for those who want to change it-easily identified here of the anti American freedom gang. 

Congratulations for utterly misunderstanding the point that Purdey was making. He is clearly calling for more, not less, political parties than the 2 that have predominated in Congress, the Presidency and the individual states for the last 160 years. 

Edited September 24, 2023 by placeholder

[earlinclaifornia]

On 9/24/2023 at 5:41 AM, impulse said:

I live in a neighborhood in Texas surrounded by guys in MAGA hats and Trump flags in their yards.  They're the guys who were out helping their neighbors that summer when we had 4 tropical storms blow through and flood the whole neighborhood 4 times in a summer.  They're the guys cooking brisket, sausage and fish at the church barbeque.  They're the guys who organize the neighborhood holiday golf cart parades and the Easter egg hunt for the kids.   They're the guys offering the elderly shut-ins rides to go shopping and to get their jabs.

 

So don't pretend to lecture me about the behavior of MAGA people.  I live with them.  It's especially rich coming from a crowd here, 75% of whom haven't even been to the States since MAGA came into being.

 

 

I seriously doubt all of you implications as Trump supporters are losers and never the sort to help the needy. Your claims are so different from the reality of the hatred I'v known of MAGA's. Wishful thinking on your parts at best. I left America because of this hateful Trump supporters.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/texas-became-homebase-white-nationalist-100002032.html