ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Please read the whole article.

I read the whole article and what?

[BarraMarra]

Wait for it a dodgy link from Bud .

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Yes, but you have to read all of the link.

 

   You would also have to change some words around, delete some words and add some words of your own and also add a random photo for good measure 

[BarraMarra]

Any thoughts from the gang of why Gaza citizens will die once their generators run out of fuel ?? and why.

[Thorgal]

Just now, BarraMarra said:

Any thoughts from the gang of why Gaza citizens will die once their generators run out of fuel ?? and why.

 

Well Bud, here some facts and figures that might surprise you :

 

Gaza's media office reports that more than 12,000 tonnes of explosives have been used on Gaza since October 7, almost equal to the 15,000 tonnes of TNT used in the atomic bomb that the US dropped on Hiroshima in 1945. The Gaza strip is almost 3 times smaller than the city of Hiroshima.

[Jeff the Chef]

14 minutes ago, transam said:

You have dodged my question again, go back and read it...............🙄

Which question is that, please?

[3NUMBAS]

the head honcho of hamas lives in london in colindale in a cheap council flat  he got at a discount

[Eloquent pilgrim]

2 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

Gaza's media office reports that

 

Any idea who controls Gaza’s Media Office … a wild guess will suffice

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

Well Bud, here some facts and figures that might surprise you :

 

Gaza's media office reports that more than 12,000 tonnes of explosives have been used on Gaza since October 7, almost equal to the 15,000 tonnes of TNT used in the atomic bomb that the US dropped on Hiroshima in 1945. The Gaza strip is almost 3 times smaller than the city of Hiroshima.

 

   How much more explosives will be needed ?

[transam]

1 minute ago, BarraMarra said:

Any thoughts from the gang of why Gaza citizens will die once their generators run out of fuel ?? and why.

Weeell, it wasn't that long ago folk in the region got by with nothing, living in tents etc, so I reckon only lack of water or food over a longish period maybe a problem, but mass death......Noooooo.

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Any thoughts from the gang of why Gaza citizens will die once their generators run out of fuel ?? and why.

 

I was reading earlier that the UN had stated some hospitals could close soon because of lack of fuel, Hamas has plenty stored away of course that could go straight to hospitals and water plants.

 

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1716884494131868138?s=20

 

 

[transam]

1 minute ago, 3NUMBAS said:

the head honcho of hamas lives in london in colindale in a cheap council flat  he got at a discount

Yeh, I read that, but the authorities cannot pin anything on him....Yet.......😉

[3NUMBAS]

they spend all their time digging tunnels and nothing productive

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

Well Bud, here some facts and figures that might surprise you :

 

Gaza's media office reports that more than 12,000 tonnes of explosives have been used on Gaza since October 7, almost equal to the 15,000 tonnes of TNT used in the atomic bomb that the US dropped on Hiroshima in 1945. The Gaza strip is almost 3 times smaller than the city of Hiroshima.

So called facts from Hamas that you believe.......

[3NUMBAS]

Just now, transam said:

Yeh, I read that, but the authorities cannot pin anything on him....Yet.......😉

he could be taken out by an israeli hit squad  like the nazis of thr 60s

[BarraMarra]

There you have it folks. Post about stolen fuel Bud fires off about Bombing Hiroshima lol never mind off-topic he just fell off a cliff with this beuity.

[Wobblybob]

23 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

As you have dodged my questions, try reading my post again, please.

No I have no extended family in either Gaza or Israel, but I still have every sympathy for any of the people killed or tortured by either side.

The other side would not be getting killed had your side not committed these terrible attrocities, and the moral of all this is....... Don't start wars, it will never end in your favour. Shalom. 

[transam]

Just now, 3NUMBAS said:

he could be taken out by an israeli hit squad  like the nazis of thr 60s

Well now he is in the news, anything could happen.....

The bloke advising Hamas from his cosy home in the UK over a number of years may have a future problem...

[BarraMarra]

He even believes if a ship carries a Helicoptor in his own words it's an Aircraft Carrier lol, and then he thinks we listen to his nonsense and stupid posts. 

[transam]

Hamas could never deal with Israel in an all out war, they thought, let's have an incursion, kill as many Israeli's as possible take a huge number of hostages, so they won't come after us... 

 

Of course, they got it all wrong, Israel did come after them and will finish the job. The West is in the area to make sure that others do not interfere. 

 

Those others are now in fear, because they know they will be slaughter..................

[Yellowtail]

21 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

New York Times (reliable news outlet) confirms what I've said :

 

Quote from source : 

 

"Using satellite imagery to triangulate the launch point in those videos, The Times determined that the projectile was fired toward Gaza from near the Israeli town of Nahal Oz shortly before the deadly hospital blast. The findings match the conclusion reached by some online researchers."

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/24/world/middleeast/gaza-hospital-israel-hamas-video.html

 

Hey Buddy! Have you found the link to support your claim that Israel has killed over a million innocent Palestinians since the 7th yet? 

 

What about your claim that the UK was sending a WW1 aircraft carrier. anything on that yet? 

 

Still waiting...

[Yellowtail]

30 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Yes, but you have to read all of the link.

I read it, and it supports what he said. 

 

 

[Jeff the Chef]

8 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

The other side would not be getting killed had your side not committed these terrible attrocities, and the moral of all this is....... Don't start wars, it will never end in your favour. Shalom. 

I have not got any side in this, and have on every occasion condemned Hamas as terrorists, what your not getting is death and injury on either side is wrong, except it seems if it comes from the Israeli's in an act of revenge on the whole of the Palestinian people, that is what I object too.

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

I have not got any side in this, and have on every occasion condemned Hamas as terrorists, what your not getting is death and injury on either side is wrong, except it seems if it comes from the Israeli's in an act of revenge on the whole of the Palestinian people, that is what I object too.

What, if anything is Israel doing that you do not object to? 

[Jeff the Chef]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

I read it, and it supports what he said. 

 

 

the Gaza Strip, March 27, 2022. (AP Photo/Oded Balilty, File)

Israel has been holding an unknown number of Gazan laborers in West Bank military facilities since October 7, after Hamas stormed 22 southern border towns and communities and massacred over 1,400 Israelis.

The Gazans, whose work permits have meanwhile been revoked, are mostly being detained at the Anatot base northeast of Jerusalem, according to an army spokesperson, who added that they cannot be returned to Gaza for the time being.

Their numbers are estimated to be in the hundreds, with Channel 12 claiming there may be as many as 4,000.

Before Hamas’s attack, Israel issued 17,500 daily permits for Gazans to work in Israel, mostly in agriculture and construction. Jerusalem had been considering increasing the number to 20,000, on condition that Hamas would halt border riots.

Erez, the only land border crossing between Israel and the Gaza Strip, was destroyed by Hamas terrorists on October 7 and has been hermetically sealed ever since. The IDF says that all stranded Gazan laborers were rounded up and transferred to Anatot shortly after the war’s outbreak. Palestinian media and Israeli NGOs have reported, however, that many of them managed to cross into the territories of the Palestinian Authority and sought refuge with local residents. Over the subsequent days, the IDF reportedly sought to locate all Gazans in the West Bank and transfer them to the detention facilities.

 

Anatot is the only base that the IDF stated it has been using, but the Israeli NGO Gisha also mentioned use of the Ofer detention facility north of Jerusalem, as well as other military bases in the West Bank.

 

The Palestinian official news agency Wafa reported that 50 Gazan laborers were arrested in Hebron on October 17, and an additional 40 on October 23, while 50 were reportedly detained as they were sheltering in the Dheisheh refugee camp near Bethlehem on October 19. Several Gazans were also detained during a raid in the town of al-Ram, north of Jerusalem, on October 22, Wafa said.

The Gazans’ detention does not legally amount to an arrest, and will persist until the situation in Gaza allows for their return. The detainees have not been allowed to seek legal representation, and it is unclear whether their internment under the present conditions is lawful.

Security forces have been investigating whether any of the laborers provided information to Hamas regarding Israeli towns and communities surrounding Gaza, thereby helping them in their deadly mission to locate targets and maximize the impact of their onslaught.

Several Israeli human rights groups sent a letter to Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and Attorney General Gali Baharav Miara on October 12, lamenting the fact that no charges had been presented for holding the laborers in custody, and asserting that their “most fundamental rights, particularly protection for their rights to due process, legal counsel, and judicial review,” were being violated.

The letter, signed by the Center for the Defense of the Individual, the Gisha Legal Center for Freedom of Movement, the Association for Civil Rights in Israel, Physicians for Human Rights and the Adalah Legal Center, alleged that the measure was an act of vengeance, forbidden during hostilities according to international law, and that all Gazan laborers had been admitted into Israel and received work permits following “diligent screening” by Israel’s security.

[transam]

Just now, Jeff the Chef said:

I have not got any side in this, and have on every occasion condemned Hamas as terrorists, what your not getting is death and injury on either side is wrong, except it seems if it comes from the Israeli's in an act of revenge on the whole of the Palestinian people, that is what I object too.

My mum dodged death on a daily basis in London by the Germans, all part of war. Sadly the German folk had to suffer the same to end their leader's aggression....🥴

[Yellowtail]

12 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

He even believes if a ship carries a Helicoptor in his own words it's an Aircraft Carrier lol, and then he thinks we listen to his nonsense and stupid posts. 

No, remember he changed it to the WW1 aircraft carrier of the same name, remember? 

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

the Gaza Strip, March 27, 2022. (AP Photo/Oded Balilty, File)

Israel has been holding an unknown number of Gazan laborers in West Bank military facilities since October 7, after Hamas stormed 22 southern border towns and communities and massacred over 1,400 Israelis.

The Gazans, whose work permits have meanwhile been revoked, are mostly being detained at the Anatot base northeast of Jerusalem, according to an army spokesperson, who added that they cannot be returned to Gaza for the time being.

Their numbers are estimated to be in the hundreds, with Channel 12 claiming there may be as many as 4,000.

Before Hamas’s attack, Israel issued 17,500 daily permits for Gazans to work in Israel, mostly in agriculture and construction. Jerusalem had been considering increasing the number to 20,000, on condition that Hamas would halt border riots.

Erez, the only land border crossing between Israel and the Gaza Strip, was destroyed by Hamas terrorists on October 7 and has been hermetically sealed ever since. The IDF says that all stranded Gazan laborers were rounded up and transferred to Anatot shortly after the war’s outbreak. Palestinian media and Israeli NGOs have reported, however, that many of them managed to cross into the territories of the Palestinian Authority and sought refuge with local residents. Over the subsequent days, the IDF reportedly sought to locate all Gazans in the West Bank and transfer them to the detention facilities.

 

Anatot is the only base that the IDF stated it has been using, but the Israeli NGO Gisha also mentioned use of the Ofer detention facility north of Jerusalem, as well as other military bases in the West Bank.

 

The Palestinian official news agency Wafa reported that 50 Gazan laborers were arrested in Hebron on October 17, and an additional 40 on October 23, while 50 were reportedly detained as they were sheltering in the Dheisheh refugee camp near Bethlehem on October 19. Several Gazans were also detained during a raid in the town of al-Ram, north of Jerusalem, on October 22, Wafa said.

The Gazans’ detention does not legally amount to an arrest, and will persist until the situation in Gaza allows for their return. The detainees have not been allowed to seek legal representation, and it is unclear whether their internment under the present conditions is lawful.

Security forces have been investigating whether any of the laborers provided information to Hamas regarding Israeli towns and communities surrounding Gaza, thereby helping them in their deadly mission to locate targets and maximize the impact of their onslaught.

Several Israeli human rights groups sent a letter to Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and Attorney General Gali Baharav Miara on October 12, lamenting the fact that no charges had been presented for holding the laborers in custody, and asserting that their “most fundamental rights, particularly protection for their rights to due process, legal counsel, and judicial review,” were being violated.

The letter, signed by the Center for the Defense of the Individual, the Gisha Legal Center for Freedom of Movement, the Association for Civil Rights in Israel, Physicians for Human Rights and the Adalah Legal Center, alleged that the measure was an act of vengeance, forbidden during hostilities according to international law, and that all Gazan laborers had been admitted into Israel and received work permits following “diligent screening” by Israel’s security.

So, I was right, thanks jeffie....

[Morch]

4 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

I have not got any side in this, and have on every occasion condemned Hamas as terrorists, what your not getting is death and injury on either side is wrong, except it seems if it comes from the Israeli's in an act of revenge on the whole of the Palestinian people, that is what I object too.

 

No sides, eh?

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1309894-the-gaza-diplomacy-of-biden-sunak-and-co-seems-to-be-heading-for-failure/page/10/#comment-18448864

[Morch]

3 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

the Gaza Strip, March 27, 2022. (AP Photo/Oded Balilty, File)

Israel has been holding an unknown number of Gazan laborers in West Bank military facilities since October 7, after Hamas stormed 22 southern border towns and communities and massacred over 1,400 Israelis.

The Gazans, whose work permits have meanwhile been revoked, are mostly being detained at the Anatot base northeast of Jerusalem, according to an army spokesperson, who added that they cannot be returned to Gaza for the time being.

Their numbers are estimated to be in the hundreds, with Channel 12 claiming there may be as many as 4,000.

Before Hamas’s attack, Israel issued 17,500 daily permits for Gazans to work in Israel, mostly in agriculture and construction. Jerusalem had been considering increasing the number to 20,000, on condition that Hamas would halt border riots.

Erez, the only land border crossing between Israel and the Gaza Strip, was destroyed by Hamas terrorists on October 7 and has been hermetically sealed ever since. The IDF says that all stranded Gazan laborers were rounded up and transferred to Anatot shortly after the war’s outbreak. Palestinian media and Israeli NGOs have reported, however, that many of them managed to cross into the territories of the Palestinian Authority and sought refuge with local residents. Over the subsequent days, the IDF reportedly sought to locate all Gazans in the West Bank and transfer them to the detention facilities.

 

Anatot is the only base that the IDF stated it has been using, but the Israeli NGO Gisha also mentioned use of the Ofer detention facility north of Jerusalem, as well as other military bases in the West Bank.

 

The Palestinian official news agency Wafa reported that 50 Gazan laborers were arrested in Hebron on October 17, and an additional 40 on October 23, while 50 were reportedly detained as they were sheltering in the Dheisheh refugee camp near Bethlehem on October 19. Several Gazans were also detained during a raid in the town of al-Ram, north of Jerusalem, on October 22, Wafa said.

The Gazans’ detention does not legally amount to an arrest, and will persist until the situation in Gaza allows for their return. The detainees have not been allowed to seek legal representation, and it is unclear whether their internment under the present conditions is lawful.

Security forces have been investigating whether any of the laborers provided information to Hamas regarding Israeli towns and communities surrounding Gaza, thereby helping them in their deadly mission to locate targets and maximize the impact of their onslaught.

Several Israeli human rights groups sent a letter to Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and Attorney General Gali Baharav Miara on October 12, lamenting the fact that no charges had been presented for holding the laborers in custody, and asserting that their “most fundamental rights, particularly protection for their rights to due process, legal counsel, and judicial review,” were being violated.

The letter, signed by the Center for the Defense of the Individual, the Gisha Legal Center for Freedom of Movement, the Association for Civil Rights in Israel, Physicians for Human Rights and the Adalah Legal Center, alleged that the measure was an act of vengeance, forbidden during hostilities according to international law, and that all Gazan laborers had been admitted into Israel and received work permits following “diligent screening” by Israel’s security.

 

Yes, and?