ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

[norfolkandchance]

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

If he told you, he'd have to kill you...

When.

[Thorgal]

33 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Running scared then? 

 

There's more news of Iranian involvement:

 

quote from link :

 

"The report notes that the Hezbollah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah agreed the ultimatum with Brigadier General Esmail Qaani, head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' Quds Force, who arrived in Beirut on Tuesday."

 

https://tass.com/world/1700787

 

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

There's more news of Iranian involvement:

 

quote from link :

 

"The report notes that the Hezbollah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah agreed the ultimatum with Brigadier General Esmail Qaani, head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' Quds Force, who arrived in Beirut on Tuesday."

 

https://tass.com/world/1700787

 

Great news! 

[BarraMarra]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Biden said I think we need a pause. Very different from a ceasefire

 

"The White House has refused to call for a cease-fire but has signaled that the Israelis should consider humanitarian pauses to allow civilians to receive aid and for foreign nationals trapped on the strip to leave Gaza."

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-biden-ceasefire-422ed95081e5fe224dd9f0ed7920c4e8

Our PM and others in UK have asked the same a Pause not a ceasefire.

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Our PM and others in UK have asked the same a Pause not a ceasefire.

How is it different? 

[BarraMarra]

I would imagine Air Attacks are stopped for a period for citizens to move to a safe area and humanitarian aid can reach more where it is needed most of the timing is up to Israel. How long they will wait before Opps start again?

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

I would imagine Air Attacks are stopped for a period for citizens to move to a safe area and humanitarian aid can reach more where it is needed most of the timing is up to Israel. How long they will wait before Opps start again?

Oh, so it's different in that only Israel has to stop? 

[BarraMarra]

1 hour ago, owl sees all said:

Watched a show last night.

 

They suggested that tomorrow at dawn something will happen. We will see.

They gonna shoot some Cowards.

[Morch]

20 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

How is it different? 

 

Much shorter, and aimed at achieving specific tasks, fulfilling specified goals.

Usually no official paper.

A ceasefire would be longer, more general in nature and papers will be signed.

[Morch]

9 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Oh, so it's different in that only Israel has to stop? 

 

Not necessarily, but could mean that if Hamas was not into it.

Then again, they'd have a hard time explaining why not - and also not in their interest to refuse.

[BarraMarra]

8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Oh, so it's different in that only Israel has to stop? 

Well yes, i suppose both sides but as Hamas Desecrated dead Israelis could you trust them to uphold a pause in Activitys?

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Not necessarily, but could mean that if Hamas was not into it.

Then again, they'd have a hard time explaining why not - and also not in their interest to refuse.

 

More like they'll pretend to pause until they get a few clear shots. 

[Neeranam]

2 hours ago, Danny Australia said:

 

 

Based on historical events like the Vietnam War, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and the USA's invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, a different narrative emerges. It suggests that those fighting for their freedom tend to ultimately triumph, and the occupying forces are destined to be defeated, sooner or later.

 

In the case of Israel, a few hundred freedom fighters have managed to humiliate Israel and bring it to its knees. What chances does Israel stand when its neighbors come together and initiate a full-scale war, equipped with an army, tanks, air force, and more? This current situation doesn't qualify as a war; it's rather a one-sided assault on a small group of fighters and the civilian population who possess very little.

Indeed. Let's hope the US does the right thing and orders a ceasefire, but I doubt that will happen. 

Good to see Palestine's neighbours supporting them in their time of need. 

[Morch]

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Indeed. Let's hope the US does the right thing and orders a ceasefire, but I doubt that will happen. 

Good to see Palestine's neighbours supporting them in their time of need. 

 

The USA cannot 'order' Hamas to comply with ceasefire. You know that.

What neighbors are helping in which way? And are they helping Hamas? The Palestinians?

Not expecting even a half-coherent, fact based reply, obviously.

[Neeranam]

 

Evidence of Israel’s unlawful use of white phosphorus in southern Lebanon as cross-border hostilities escalate

 

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/lebanon-evidence-of-israels-unlawful-use-of-white-phosphorus-in-southern-lebanon-as-cross-border-hostilities-escalate/#:~:text=The Israeli army fired artillery,2023%2C Amnesty International said today.

[Neeranam]

Israel loses if it doesn't win. Hamas wins if it doesn't lose

 

[Thorgal]

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Israel loses if it doesn't win. Hamas wins if it doesn't lose

 

 

Rocket attack in the north :

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrpZ4cVvQpU

 

 

 

[Morch]

33 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

 

Evidence of Israel’s unlawful use of white phosphorus in southern Lebanon as cross-border hostilities escalate

 

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/lebanon-evidence-of-israels-unlawful-use-of-white-phosphorus-in-southern-lebanon-as-cross-border-hostilities-escalate/#:~:text=The Israeli army fired artillery,2023%2C Amnesty International said today.

 

Allegation is not evidence. Consult the dictionary, or your imaginary rabbi friend.

[Wobblybob]

7 hours ago, Thorgal said:

 

There's more news of Iranian involvement:

 

quote from link :

 

"The report notes that the Hezbollah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah agreed the ultimatum with Brigadier General Esmail Qaani, head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' Quds Force, who arrived in Beirut on Tuesday."

 

https://tass.com/world/1700787

 

TASS! 😂😂😂

[Bkk Brian]

8 hours ago, Thorgal said:

 

There's more news of Iranian involvement:

 

quote from link :

 

"The report notes that the Hezbollah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah agreed the ultimatum with Brigadier General Esmail Qaani, head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' Quds Force, who arrived in Beirut on Tuesday."

 

https://tass.com/world/1700787

 

Outed yet again following your Russian mates:

 

A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency, and/or is fake news. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/russian-news-agency-tass/

 

Their latest anti-Semitic conspiracy was claiming the west caused the storming of the Russian airport and attacks on Jews in Russia.

[Bkk Brian]

6 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Israel loses if it doesn't win. Hamas wins if it doesn't lose

 

So you gave up with the religious quotes and decided to make it up as you go along 

[TimeMachine]

If something is so obvious is it necessary to report it as news? For example, they don't report about the sun rising everyday.

 

Israel PM's son not signing up for army service.

 

Shocker!

[Thorgal]

42 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Outed yet again following your Russian mates:

 

A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency, and/or is fake news. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/russian-news-agency-tass/

 

Their latest anti-Semitic conspiracy was claiming the west caused the storming of the Russian airport and attacks on Jews in Russia.

 

Was the information of Tass wrong ? No much western press agencies are allowed in Iran and/or Lebanon...

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

Was the information of Tass wrong ? No much western press agencies are allowed in Iran and/or Lebanon...

Who knows. They provide no link to source

[Wobblybob]

Just now, Thorgal said:

 

Was the information of Tass wrong ? No much western press agencies are allowed in Iran and/or Lebanon...

For a news source that specialises in Russian propaganda one would have to assume yes it is wrong and anybody that reads TASS are desperate for news that satisfies their own warped mentality.

[Thorgal]

49 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

For a news source that specialises in Russian propaganda one would have to assume yes it is wrong and anybody that reads TASS are desperate for news that satisfies their own warped mentality.

 

I think many Russian AN members in SE Asia like to follow their news through Tass.

 

I use mostly the French channel. Russian and French people have a long tradition in having good/stable diplomatic relationships.

 

Tass also informed me that 2 Chinese fleets went to the Persian Gulf this week.

There was little or no news coverage in the Western media and it can be relevant for the US carrier fleet coming in the same direction in front of Iran...

 

That's why I've put the Iranian/Hezbollah meeting and possible involvement in the latest Gaza war.

 

Again, no much western press agencies are allowed in Iran and/or Lebanon...

 

That some news outlets are "blacklisted" like : Aljazeera, BBC, Tass, RT  is OK for me, but some news in this Gaza-war topic comes sometimes first hand from these "blacklisted" news outlets.

Edited November 3, 2023 by Thorgal

[Wobblybob]

Just now, Thorgal said:

 

I think many Russian AN members in SE Asia like to follow their news through Tass.

 

I use mostly the French channel. Russian and French people have a long tradition in having good/stable diplomatic relationships.

 

Tass also informed me that 2 Chinese fleets went to the Persian Gulf this week.

There was little or no news coverage in the Western media and it can be relevant for the US carrier fleet coming in the same direction in front of Iran...

 

That's why I've put the Iranian/Hezbollah meeting and possible involvement in the latest Gaza war.

 

Again, no much western press agencies are allowed in Iran and/or Lebanon...

 

That some news outlets are "blacklisted" like : Aljazeera, BBC, Tass, RT  is OK for me, but some news in this Gaza-war topic comes sometimes first hand from these "blacklisted" news outlets.

I don't care which language you watch TASS in, it is still funded by the Kremlin. 

[Yellowtail]

9 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Israel loses if it doesn't win. Hamas wins if it doesn't lose

 

Yeah, as long as hamas does not run out of women to rape and children to kill, you see it as a win.  

[Morch]

9 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

 

More like they'll pretend to pause until they get a few clear shots. 

 

A better option (for Hamas) would be to ignore the pleas, let Israel accept a unilateral 'humanitarian pause'.

When this 'pause' is on, Hamas can then try to provoke an Israeli attack, later spinning it as Israel-broke-the-ceasefire.

[Thorgal]

9th November 2023 : Palestinian Authority will prosecute Israel in the International Crime Court (ICC) at Den Hague for genocide (art. 6).

 

Palestinian State has been recognized since 5/02/2021 for East Jerusalem, Gaza and the West Bank.