Yellowtail Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 29 minutes ago, RanongCat said: You can disagree all you wish. It does not make you correct. Proof read? I am not a journalist . Are you an AN Editor in Chief? <deleted> ! I said I do not disagree. So, you can't read or write. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Yellowtail said: I think you're making it up, yes. Do you have anything that supports your claim or not? What the heck does: "If you need question then you have doubt in support." mean? You have just confirmed your incapacity to have or recognize original thought. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danny Australia Posted November 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said: I hear what you are saying. Yes neither 'side' is innocent, but one side wants peace, and the other does not. How many rockets has Hamas indiscriminantly fired into Israel in the last 20 years? Over 50,000 - with 5,000 as part of this current act of terror. They are aiming at anyone and anything in Israel (Jew or not) - they are not targetting military targets. Iron Dome (Israel anti-rocket defence system, stops about 90% of them). How many rockets has Israel indiscriminantly fired into Gaza in the last 10 years? None. Yes some during a military strike have 'missed', but they were all aimed at a military and/or terrorist targets. Israel used to 'occupy' Gaza until as part of a negotiated peace deal they left and handed power to the PLO. Things were never been 'great' between Israel and PLO - but since Hamas took out the PLO and took over, things have got very bad and after their latest atrtocity Israel has had enough. Israel is going to re-occupy Gaza - and I doubt they will withdraw anytime over the next 5-10 years (maybe longer). Based on historical events like the Vietnam War, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and the USA's invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, a different narrative emerges. It suggests that those fighting for their freedom tend to ultimately triumph, and the occupying forces are destined to be defeated, sooner or later. In the case of Israel, a few hundred freedom fighters have managed to humiliate Israel and bring it to its knees. What chances does Israel stand when its neighbors come together and initiate a full-scale war, equipped with an army, tanks, air force, and more? This current situation doesn't qualify as a war; it's rather a one-sided assault on a small group of fighters and the civilian population who possess very little. 2 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: I think you're making it up, yes. Do you have anything that supports your claim or not? What the heck does: "If you need question then you have doubt in support." mean? Seems a bit recursive.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Danny Australia said: In the case of Israel, a few hundred freedom fighters have managed to humiliate Israel and bring it to its knees. What chances does Israel stand when its neighbors come together and initiate a full-scale war, equipped with an army, tanks, air force, and more? Are you unaware that that has happened previously ? All of Israel's neighbours attacked Israel all at the same time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Danny Australia said: Based on historical events like the Vietnam War, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and the USA's invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, a different narrative emerges. It suggests that those fighting for their freedom tend to ultimately triumph, and the occupying forces are destined to be defeated, sooner or later. How long will it be before the occupying forces in Australia will be defeated and the Aborigines get their land and Country back ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted November 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Danny Australia said: Based on historical events like the Vietnam War, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and the USA's invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, a different narrative emerges. It suggests that those fighting for their freedom tend to ultimately triumph, and the occupying forces are destined to be defeated, sooner or later. In the case of Israel, a few hundred freedom fighters have managed to humiliate Israel and bring it to its knees. What chances does Israel stand when its neighbors come together and initiate a full-scale war, equipped with an army, tanks, air force, and more? This current situation doesn't qualify as a war; it's rather a one-sided assault on a small group of fighters and the civilian population who possess very little. Israel on its knees? Do you have anything to support that? Last I heard the terrorists were crying about their dead, and their neighbors were begging for a ceasefire, no? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Danny Australia said: Based on historical events like the Vietnam War, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and the USA's invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, a different narrative emerges. It suggests that those fighting for their freedom tend to ultimately triumph, and the occupying forces are destined to be defeated, sooner or later. In the case of Israel, a few hundred freedom fighters have managed to humiliate Israel and bring it to its knees. What chances does Israel stand when its neighbors come together and initiate a full-scale war, equipped with an army, tanks, air force, and more? This current situation doesn't qualify as a war; it's rather a one-sided assault on a small group of fighters and the civilian population who possess very little. Estimate of Hamas forces involved in the initial attack run between 2000-3000. There were, for various reasons, less IDF combatants to handle this at first. They were followed by a mob of armed gazans. Bring to it's knees? Lets not get carried away, most of the attackers were killed by the second day. Which neighbors do you imagine will 'come together'? What would be their respective interests to do so? Hamas does not fight for freedom. It's declared goal is to destroy Israel, not simply to free the Gaza Strip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, Morch said: Seems a bit recursive.... Probably . But I get bored with drones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, Danny Australia said: Based on historical events like the Vietnam War, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and the USA's invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, a different narrative emerges. It suggests that those fighting for their freedom tend to ultimately triumph, and the occupying forces are destined to be defeated, sooner or later. The Palestinian invasion of Israel was rather insignificant , when making comparisons between Palestinians invading Israel and USA invading Iraq , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkandchance Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 30 minutes ago, RanongCat said: You can disagree all you wish. It does not make you correct. Proof read? I am not a journalist . Are you an AN Editor in Chief? <deleted> ! <deleted>. Classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 23 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Yes proof read, its always a good idea, something I should also do more often before I press submit: 4. Proofread your post first as poor grammar and spelling can make a post difficult to understand. Posts regarding spelling and grammar can derail a topic and can also appear intolerant and unhelpful. Sorry. I was distracted a moment while trying to establish a connection between polo and polio. I decided it was a spelling mistype that was the cause for distraction. Now what was it you were lecturing me about ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, Danny Australia said: Based on historical events like the Vietnam War, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and the USA's invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, a different narrative emerges. It suggests that those fighting for their freedom tend to ultimately triumph, and the occupying forces are destined to be defeated, sooner or later. In the case of Israel, a few hundred freedom fighters have managed to humiliate Israel and bring it to its knees. What chances does Israel stand when its neighbors come together and initiate a full-scale war, equipped with an army, tanks, air force, and more? This current situation doesn't qualify as a war; it's rather a one-sided assault on a small group of fighters and the civilian population who possess very little. Gaza has had it's freedom since 2005, not the same as the other places you quoted. Butchering 1400 innocent civilians did not bring Israel to it's knees. You might not have noticed Israel has been fighting off it's neighbours attacks for 75 years, it's going nowhere and call it a war or not Hamas are finished, islamic hate however will go on. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, RanongCat said: Sorry. I was distracted a moment while trying to establish a connection between polo and polio. I decided it was a spelling mistype that was the cause for distraction. Now what was it you were lecturing me about ? You were just about to support one of your silly claims....(kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, RanongCat said: Sorry. I was distracted a moment while trying to establish a connection between polo and polio. I decided it was a spelling mistype that was the cause for distraction. Now what was it you were lecturing me about ? That's the second time you've replied to the same post. This time however a pure troll post 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Angry and tired, Gazan mothers stuck in Israel after medical care want to get home https://www.timesofisrael.com/angry-and-tired-gazan-mothers-stuck-in-israel-after-medical-care-want-to-get-home/ Interesting read. Shows how a lot about this is complicated, entangled. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Morch said: Angry and tired, Gazan mothers stuck in Israel after medical care want to get home https://www.timesofisrael.com/angry-and-tired-gazan-mothers-stuck-in-israel-after-medical-care-want-to-get-home/ Interesting read. Shows how a lot about this is complicated, entangled. If nothing else it indicates that claims of civilian support for Hamas is a distortion that does not justify being made collateral damage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Senior member of Hamas interviewed. Asked why Hamas did not build bomb shelters for the civilian population in Gaza. His reply? We fight from the tunnels, its up to the UN to protect the civilians 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Just now, Bkk Brian said: Senior member of Hamas interviewed. Asked why Hamas did not build bomb shelters for the civilian population in Gaza. His reply? We fight from the tunnels, its up to the UN to protect the civilians Few would debate that. The question is why does israel not value the lives of Gazan civilians ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Senior member of Hamas interviewed. Asked why Hamas did not build bomb shelters for the civilian population in Gaza. His reply? We fight from the tunnels, its up to the UN to protect the civilians Unbiased source : IDF... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Just now, RanongCat said: Few would debate that. The question is why does israel not value the lives of Gazan civilians ? If they did not value the lives there would be far more dead. Fact 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, RanongCat said: If nothing else it indicates that claims of civilian support for Hamas is a distortion that does not justify being made collateral damage. What percentage of Gazans do you think support hamas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Thorgal said: Unbiased source : IDF... No not unbiased, they are fighting a war with the terrorists. However it is the senior Hamas member being interviewed not IDF 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, RanongCat said: If nothing else it indicates that claims of civilian support for Hamas is a distortion that does not justify being made collateral damage. How? Some seem to support Hamas, some does not. Don't think anyone seriously claimed all Gazans or all Palestinians support Hamas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: If they did not value the lives there would be far more dead. Fact Fact ? bloody silly declaration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, RanongCat said: The question is why does israel not value the lives of Gazan civilians ? Well, it seems to value their lives more than their government, Hamas, do; although in fairness that is not saying a great deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Just now, RanongCat said: Fact ? bloody silly declaration. Yes fact, I doubt you wanted more deaths........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted November 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, RanongCat said: Few would debate that. The question is why does israel not value the lives of Gazan civilians ? Why is that the question? I think a better question is: Why should Israel value Gazan civilians over their own? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Morch said: How? Some seem to support Hamas, some does not. Don't think anyone seriously claimed all Gazans or all Palestinians support Hamas. My intended point. Yellowbelly demands I submit an estimate of the unknown. But I would venture a minority . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, RanongCat said: Few would debate that. The question is why does israel not value the lives of Gazan civilians ? The Israeli government cares more about it's own civilians. That's pretty much how most countries and governments work. Why should the Israeli government care more about Gazan civilian than their own government? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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