metisdead Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 A post with misinformation contravening our Community Standards has been reported and removed: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted November 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, Neeranam said: It's crystal clear, they just can't accept that for some weird reason. So black and white. Ironically, they probably hate Muslims, but no one ever accuses them of being racist. Is Muslim a race? I have a lot of friends that are Muslim. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, Thorgal said: It worked in the past for South Africa and Algeria to implement amnesty. This means, both parties agree that war/conflicts stops and that full forgiveness will be granted. This requires courage, wisdom and intelligence to force yourself and your enemy to live together under any circumstances (conditions). The crimes that the Palestinians have committed in Israel will not be forgotten for such a long time, you will not get your way with wiping these terrorists slates clean. Hamas will never live in peace with Israel and you know it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Neeranam said: It's crystal clear, they just can't accept that for some weird reason. So black and white. Ironically, they probably hate Muslims, but no one ever accuses them of being racist. Islam is not a race, you can hate Islam but not hate muslims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Danderman123 said: Correction: Hamas wants the eradication of Israel. Hamas and about half of Palestine wants the eradication of Israel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, proton said: What makes you think Israel operates and apartheid state? 20%+ of the population are Arabs, are you claiming they have less rights, are bared from jobs and services and are forced to live in certain areas? The UN and Amnesty International say that. https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/03/1114702 https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, Yellowtail said: Hamas and about half of Palestine wants the eradication of Israel And your point about the Palestinian people is ....? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeff the Chef Posted November 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2023 The Duty to End the Occupation: https://www.btselem.org/duty_to_end_occupation 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, Neeranam said: The UN and Amnesty International say that. https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/03/1114702 https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/ All irrelevant in the context of the current war. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, proton said: Islam is not a race, you can hate Islam but not hate muslims Just like you can hate Israel and love Judaism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, Jeff the Chef said: The Duty to End the Occupation: https://www.btselem.org/duty_to_end_occupation Irrelevant in the context of the Gaza war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, Danderman123 said: All irrelevant in the context of the current war. What makes you think it is irrelevant? Highly relevant when discussing the reason for it and also the future peace talks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagoda Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 25 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said: And Religious Zealots and anti semites. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Chef Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, proton said: Od course it is an outrageous untruth, are you a flat earther as well Geoff, how about 9/11 inside job, or was that the Jews as well? As I said, if so please prove otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: When Israel pulled out of Gaza, was it not an attempt at a two-state solution? Palestine wants the eradication of Israel, they do not want a two-state solution. They pretend they want a two-state solution every now and then to keep the money and sympathy coming in. Again, you try to sell me "the free Hasbara basic package for new subscribers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Reposting this because people seem to be under the impression that only a small percentage of Palestinians support hamas. How much trust do you have in the Hamas-led government? A great deal of faith: ~12% Quite a lot: ~17% Not a lot: ~23% ~52% Not at all: ~45% So less than half have no faith in the Hamas-led government. Which party, if any, do you feel closest to? Fatah ~30% Hamas ~27% Palestinian Islamic jihad ~7% Other, ~14% No party ~15% Don't know ~7% So combined, Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad parties are the largest voting bloc in Palestine, and both are terrorist groups, and both want to exterminate all the Jews in Israel, after raping many of them of course. What Palestinians Really Think of Hamas | Foreign Affairs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, Thorgal said: Again, you try to sell me "the free Hasbara basic package for new subscribers". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: And your point about the Palestinian people is ....? That many/most of them want Israel eradicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Chef Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, proton said: What makes you think Israel operates and apartheid state? 20%+ of the population are Arabs, are you claiming they have less rights, are bared from jobs and services and are forced to live in certain areas? https://www.btselem.org/topic/apartheid 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 15 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: When Israel pulled out of Gaza, was it not an attempt at a two-state solution? Palestine wants the eradication of Israel, they do not want a two-state solution. They pretend they want a two-state solution every now and then to keep the money and sympathy coming in. No, it was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted November 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, Neeranam said: It's crystal clear, they just can't accept that for some weird reason. So black and white. Ironically, they probably hate Muslims, but no one ever accuses them of being racist. It's chrystal clear that the poster in question made a racist post and you applauded it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said: And what is the problem with that, is it a lie, if so please prove otherwise. Digging deeper, is our Jeff... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Is Muslim a race? I have a lot of friends that are Muslim. About as believable as @Neeranam's rabbit friend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Hamas and about half of Palestine wants the eradication of Israel Hamas are Palestinian, dear. There is no 'and'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: That many/most of them want Israel eradicated. What do you mean : is it not only Hamas as it happened from Gaza, or is it from Hamas + 1/2 of Palestine or do you mean full Palestine? It's confusing for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted November 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Just like you can hate Israel and love Judaism. Having a pet rabbit is not quite the same thing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, Morch said: About as believable as @Neeranam's rabbit friend. Actually, I worked a week a month for about six years at our plant in the UAE, and for three years at our plant in Malaysia so I do have quite a few Muslim friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I know I've been accused of being a Hamas sympathizer because I pointed out the a growing backlash against the Israeli invasion was inevitable. It seemed obvious. Anyway, here's another Hamas sympathizer to add to the list, the epitome of an appeaser, former PM and Defense Chief Ehud Barak: Israel has only weeks to defeat Hamas as global opinion sours, former PM Ehud Barak says Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu may be digging in for a “long and difficult war” but former leader Ehud Barak fears Israel has only weeks left to eliminate Hamas, as public opinion — most significantly in the U.S. — rapidly swings against its attacks on Gaza. In an exclusive interview with POLITICO, the former prime minister and chief of the Israel Defense Forces also suggested a multinational Arab force could have to take control of Gaza after the military campaign, to help usher in a return of Mahmoud Abbas’ Palestinian Authority to take over from Hamas. Even with that change of the political order in Gaza, however, Barak stressed the return to diplomacy aimed at the creation of a Palestinian state was a very remote prospect. https://www.politico.eu/article/ehud-barak-israel-palestine-war-hamas-global-opinion-sours/ I do wonder why the Arab countries would want to immerse their armed forces in this mess. Still, this is Ehud Barak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Reposting this because people seem to be under the impression that only a small percentage of Palestinians support hamas. How much trust do you have in the Hamas-led government? A great deal of faith: ~12% Quite a lot: ~17% Not a lot: ~23% ~52% Not at all: ~45% So less than half have no faith in the Hamas-led government. Which party, if any, do you feel closest to? Fatah ~30% Hamas ~27% Palestinian Islamic jihad ~7% Other, ~14% No party ~15% Don't know ~7% So combined, Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad parties are the largest voting bloc in Palestine, and both are terrorist groups, and both want to exterminate all the Jews in Israel, after raping many of them of course. What Palestinians Really Think of Hamas | Foreign Affairs Saying one supports Hamas on a survey does not necessarily imply supporting Hamas agenda wholesale. Same thing with Republicans and Trump, or Democrats and Biden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Actually, I worked a week a month for about six years at our plant in the UAE, and for three years at our plant in Malaysia so I do have quite a few Muslim friends. That's great. I'm sure you've spent all that time repeating the sort of views you put on here, and that they were well received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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