Popular Post Morch Posted November 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2023 36 minutes ago, Thorgal said: Israel bombed all Gaza surface. Israel didn't bombed only Hamas. the bombings are a collective punishment. This was explained multiple times that Gaza civilians participated in the looting, killing, etc.. I understood that Israel works with a target list to bomb in Gaza. How many killers, looters, have been killed already from the 10.300 Gaza fatalities? You can try and twist things as much as you like, not impressed. You made a claim, it was clearly untrue, so you move the goal posts and change the argument. I have no idea - Hamas doesn't release clear details on casualties, at least not verifiable ones. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 36 minutes ago, Thorgal said: Quote from source without monocle : "The Health Ministry said that 10,022 people have been killed in Gaza, including over 4,100 children. More than 2,300 people are missing and believed to be buried under the rubble of destroyed buildings, the ministry said." Yes. And the question was whether they are also counted as casualties. This is not clearly answered by the quote above. Regardless, even the 2300 figure comes from Hamas, so suspect as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 35 minutes ago, Thorgal said: OK, this means guessing. This means read the topic and stop trolling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 37 minutes ago, rabas said: Not sure when it starts, but surely it ends when Hamas puts them directly in the firing line with the IDF. Or tells them to stay above ground as Hamas hides in tunnels, or blocks them from leaving combat zones, or fires rockets from hospitals full of noncombatants, or just bombs the hospitals themselves. So I think your question is wrong. When do noncombatant Palestinians have a right to defend themselves from Hamas? Please do not ask this distorted question again... I will not ask it because I can't get an answer or my question is a disturbing truth that the Gaza resistance is expanding every day and that a cease fire and/or hostage exchange could reduce this disastrous extension of the conflict for both sides. Furthermore it's intellectually correct to call some people freedom fighters in Gaza as they became legit militants for self defense of their communities that are under attack. Some Gazans lost 45 members of their family in one day through IAF bombing. So, I agree with you. Some distorted questions or realities should not be put in question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 39 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: And we trust you will be blaming the instigators of this war....... Hamas right? This topic can only be commented from 7th of October onwards. You might be right if you count the total Israeli-Palestinian conflict from that day on. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 32 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Once they become an enemy combatant for whatever reason, they are no longer civilians and should die or surrender as such. How many IDF hostages are there still alive in Gaza under control from Hamas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Thorgal said: As per international law : YES, if they're non combatants. You're claiming all non combatants are murdered if killed. Can you provide a link to that claim? You may want to note the below first and apologize for your error. Collateral damage is an accepted consequence of warfare. The law of armed conflict (LOAC) permits soldiers to carry out attacks against military objectives with the knowledge that civilians will be killed, provided the attack is consistent with the requirements of the principle of proportionality https://lieber.westpoint.edu/collateral-damage-innocent-bystanders-war/#:~:text=Collateral damage is an accepted,of the principle of proportionality. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Just now, Thorgal said: This topic can only be commented from 7th of October onwards. You might be right if you count the total Israeli-Palestinian conflict from that day on. It might be me but I don't think that the Israelis like rockets fired at them, what ever time of day it is. The Palestinians couldn't live in peace if you gave everyone of them a bamboo bong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Thorgal said: How many IDF hostages are there still alive in Gaza under control from Hamas? Only Hamas knows that and nothing they say can be believed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Thorgal said: I will not ask it because I can't get an answer or my question is a disturbing truth that the Gaza resistance is expanding every day and that a cease fire and/or hostage exchange could reduce this disastrous extension of the conflict for both sides. Furthermore it's intellectually correct to call some people freedom fighters in Gaza as they became legit militants for self defense of their communities that are under attack. Some Gazans lost 45 members of their family in one day through IAF bombing. So, I agree with you. Some distorted questions or realities should not be put in question. Furthermore it's intellectually correct to call some people freedom fighters in Gaza as they became legit militants for self defense of their communities that are under attack. Rubbish, they are terrorist rats fighting from the tunnels using them as cover. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted November 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2023 40 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Here we see the intellect of the terrorist sympathiser on full display …. many thanks for the confirmation Yea, he's back, didn't take long for him to out himself once again 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Seems a rather one-sided war, around 10,000 killed in Gaza since Oct 7, and only 100 killed in Israel. No wonder support for Palestine is growing. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Interesting statistic. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/11/8/israel-hamas-war-live-humanitarian-aid-targeted-amid-gaza-bombardment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Just now, Neeranam said: Seems a rather one-sided war, around 10,000 killed in Gaza since Oct 7, and only 100 killed in Israel. No wonder support for Palestine is growing. Them that start a war don't get to dictate the final score. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: You're claiming all non combatants are murdered if killed. Can you provide a link to that claim? You may want to note the below first and apologize for your error. Collateral damage is an accepted consequence of warfare. The law of armed conflict (LOAC) permits soldiers to carry out attacks against military objectives with the knowledge that civilians will be killed, provided the attack is consistent with the requirements of the principle of proportionality https://lieber.westpoint.edu/collateral-damage-innocent-bystanders-war/#:~:text=Collateral damage is an accepted,of the principle of proportionality. LOL. Apologize for your error. Which error? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted November 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2023 Just now, Thorgal said: LOL. Apologize for your error. Which error? Pathetic troll. Link to your claim is required 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rabas Posted November 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Seems a rather one-sided war, around 10,000 killed in Gaza since Oct 7, and only 100 killed in Israel. No wonder support for Palestine is growing. Far more one sided on October 7. But you always forget that. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Neeranam said: Seems a rather one-sided war, around 10,000 killed in Gaza since Oct 7, and only 100 killed in Israel. No wonder support for Palestine is growing. Perhaps you should have instructed your Hamas team not to go to war then. Plus, I see you have no sympathy for Thai folk who were murdered by them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neeranam Posted November 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Thorgal said: LOL. Apologize for your error. Which error? No error i can see. Edited November 8, 2023 by Neeranam 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarraMarra Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 No remorse from me either Hamas started it they don't give a toss about civvies in Gaza they were warned to leave so blame Hamas for the deaths being inflicted now Tuff put your hand in the fire you get burned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Neeranam said: No error i can see. Thanks, my friend really appreciated. I've no problem if I posted something that wasn't correct, but indeed. No error. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 minute ago, rabas said: Far more one sided on October 7. But you always forget that. I don't forget that. It was a terrorist attack. What is happening now is 10 times worse, and that number will probably rise over the next few months. Over 4,000 kids dead, surely you are not condoning Israel actions, or maybe you are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Just now, Thorgal said: Thanks, my friend really appreciated. I've no problem if I posted something that wasn't correct, but indeed. No error. So provide a link to your claim that non combatants are murdered 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted November 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2023 30 minutes ago, Thorgal said: I will not ask it because I can't get an answer or my question is a disturbing truth that the Gaza resistance is expanding every day and that a cease fire and/or hostage exchange could reduce this disastrous extension of the conflict for both sides. Furthermore it's intellectually correct to call some people freedom fighters in Gaza as they became legit militants for self defense of their communities that are under attack. Some Gazans lost 45 members of their family in one day through IAF bombing. So, I agree with you. Some distorted questions or realities should not be put in question. 'Freedom Fighters' who sacrifice the civilians under their rule, while they stay safe underground. Must be so proud. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eloquent pilgrim Posted November 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, Neeranam said: No error i can see. The bromance continues to blossom; bless 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted November 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2023 Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said: The bromance continues to blossom; bless In all fairness there isn't many posters left he can converse with.🥴 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Just now, Bkk Brian said: So provide a link to your claim that non combatants are murdered Case closed. I follow the good advise of Mr. Neeranam. Can you please report (to moderators) the biased reports of IDF war propaganda of the fake Hamas tunnel at the hospital to be deleted? Forum rules doesn't allow us to post misinformation. I don't know where's the report button by the way. Says something about my integrity... I'm difficult to make friends is OK for me, but I'm not a troll... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted November 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2023 17 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Seems a rather one-sided war, around 10,000 killed in Gaza since Oct 7, and only 100 killed in Israel. No wonder support for Palestine is growing. 100? How about all them Israelis killed on 7/10? 'I'm not a Hamas apologist'..... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted November 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Interesting statistic. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/11/8/israel-hamas-war-live-humanitarian-aid-targeted-amid-gaza-bombardment Pity your precious Hamas doesn't let them into the safety of them tunnels. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rabas Posted November 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Neeranam said: I don't forget that. It was a terrorist attack. What is happening now is 10 times worse, and that number will probably rise over the next few months. Over 4,000 kids dead, surely you are not condoning Israel actions, or maybe you are? ... and that terrorist attack caused this. By Hamas design, this is the only way to stop worse to come. You must connect all the dot's, not just those you choose. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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