placeholder Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Morch said: How does corruption relate to it? Care to elaborate? Instead of spending money meant for weaponry and construction, the leadership lined their pockets with it instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: Only if you are unable to properly comprehend the written word. It appears you have confused yourself into thinking that there has only been a “single incident” when in fact the “single incident” cited is being used as an example - i.e., it is one of many. So it exactly contradicts your point. It's not my task to prove your points. You made a claim, the blog piece you linked does not quite make it. A single incident is, in your mind, enough to make a general sweeping claim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 34 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: Why would the Israeli’s level his house? Aren’t they using precision bombs and only targeting Hamas. Levelling innocent civilian housing would be consistent with committing genocide, and from what I’ve heard - Israel aren’t doing that. You should be asking yourself why would a Palestinian terrorist cut out an unborn baby from its mother and then behead it and then behead the mother, and when you find the answers to this perverted sadism Grasshopper you will find your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, placeholder said: Instead of spending money meant for weaponry and construction, the leadership lined their pockets with it instead. There's surely a whole lot of money lining pockets of higher ups, especially those living outside of the Gaza Strip. That said, the tunnel network is extensive, thousands of rockets, and fighting a guerilla style warfare in urban surrounding does not require inordinate amounts of arms or ammunition. I think that Hamas lost a whole lot of its 'elite' troops on the first two days, and that effects things. Otherwise, the IDF is putting on some serious pressure, and appears to have had some tactical surprises. How well (or badly, depending on point of view) things are may be better answered when fighting underground commences. I do agree (posted earlier) that the IDF's advance was much faster than previously estimated (at least publicly), and that IDF casualties are (so far) on the low side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Morch said: It's not my task to prove your points. You made a claim, the blog piece you linked does not quite make it. A single incident is, in your mind, enough to make a general sweeping claim? Why so obtuse? You're flailing. Can you not understand “THIS” single incident has a different meaning to “A” single incident? I guess not. 🤷🤷🤷 Edited November 9, 2023 by MrMojoRisin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: You should be asking yourself why would a Palestinian terrorist cut out an unborn baby from its mother and then behead it and then behead the mother, and when you find the answers to this perverted sadism Grasshopper you will find your answer. You tell me - why would a Palestinian terrorist cut out an unborn baby from its mother and then behead it and then behead the mother? Did this atrocity occur in a vacuum? Do tell. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: You tell me - why would a Palestinian terrorist cut out an unborn baby from its mother and then behead it and then behead the mother? Did this atrocity occur in a vacuum? Do tell. I would have thought that was most obvious, but before I give you my thoughts can I suggest that you get down from that high horse you have and a change of tone to your posts would be most gratifying, other posters are sick of the way you like to patronise other posters. I asked you the question first and yet you refuse to answer, these people are brainwashed, conditioned and programmed from birth to hate the Israelis and to irradicate Israel and the Israelis, when someone is brainwashed they are capable of any heinous vile crime. HTH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: I would have thought that was most obvious, but before I give you my thoughts can I suggest that you get down from that high horse you have and a change of tone to your posts would be most gratifying, other posters are sick of the way you like to patronise other posters. I asked you the question first and yet you refuse to answer, these people are brainwashed, conditioned and programmed from birth to hate the Israelis and to irradicate Israel and the Israelis, when someone is brainwashed they are capable of any heinous vile crime. HTH How should we, the civilised good folk of the world deal with “these people”? Genocide perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeff the Chef Posted November 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: I would have thought that was most obvious, but before I give you my thoughts can I suggest that you get down from that high horse you have and a change of tone to your posts would be most gratifying, other posters are sick of the way you like to patronise other posters. I asked you the question first and yet you refuse to answer, these people are brainwashed, conditioned and programmed from birth to hate the Israelis and to irradicate Israel and the Israelis, when someone is brainwashed they are capable of any heinous vile crime. HTH Of course the Israeli's are as pure as the driven snow in all this, Israeli's think they are the chosen ones and all non-Jews are nothing more than in their way to colonise the whole region by fair means or foul. Mostly foul, if there is a God Israel will be hell bound forever. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said: Over the last few days any sympathy I had for Israel has gone out the window. Come on Jeff, don’t be so utterly disingenuous, you have never, ever, had any sympathy for Israel. Your very first comment on this thread was on the day of the Hamas massacre, 7th October (page 3) and you said “The Human Race, what a shameful lot we are” not any condemnation whatsoever of the appalling atrocities carried out by Hamas, and not a word of sympathy for the many victims. This was before any Israeli retaliation. Your next comment the following day was to post a chart showing more Palestinians killed than Israelis between 2008 and 2023 (which conveniently didn’t show the 1,400 Israelis killed on 7/10) Since then every one of your posts has been anti-Israeli / pro-Hamas, so don’t claim to have ever had any sympathy for Israel, because you never have had any ….. pants on fire. You are not obliged to have any sympathy for Israel, and are at liberty not to have any at all at your choice; but don’t try and give any weight to any of your comments by saying you have lost something that you never had to begin with. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted November 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2023 For a certain Hamas apologist who thinks Hamas terrorists have to wear uniforms and should be called freedom fighters, footage from Hamas themselves on the intense battles going on in Gaza with IDF 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, MrMojoRisin said: How should we, the civilised good folk of the world deal with “these people”? Genocide perhaps? If that's the best you can come up with, I wouldn't have bothered. Israel have opened humanitarian corridors for the Palestinians so stop banding nonsense words like "genocide" about, it is totally nonsense nor does it have the dramatic effect you seek! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said: Of course the Israeli's are as pure as the driven snow in all this, Israeli's think they are the chosen ones and all non-Jews are nothing more than in their way to colonise the whole region by fair means or foul. Mostly foul, if there is a God Israel will be hell bound forever. Eh? 🥴🥴🥴 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Chef Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Come on Jeff, don’t be so utterly disingenuous, you have never, ever, had any sympathy for Israel. Your very first comment on this thread was on the day of the Hamas massacre, 7th October (page 3) and you said “The Human Race, what a shameful lot we are” not any condemnation whatsoever of the appalling atrocities carried out by Hamas, and not a word of sympathy for the many victims. This was before any Israeli retaliation. Your next comment the following day was to post a chart showing more Palestinians killed than Israelis between 2008 and 2023 (which conveniently didn’t show the 1,400 Israelis killed on 7/10) Since then every one of your posts has been anti-Israeli / pro-Hamas, so don’t claim to have ever had any sympathy for Israel, because you never have had any ….. pants on fire. You are not obliged to have any sympathy for Israel, and are at liberty not to have any at all at your choice; but don’t try and give any weight to any of your comments by saying you have lost something that you never had to begin with. Zionist clap trap, Israel is an Apartheid state, except that or keep out of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: You should be asking yourself why would a Palestinian terrorist cut out an unborn baby from its mother and then behead it and then behead the mother, and when you find the answers to this perverted sadism Grasshopper you will find your answer. He won't answer you, because then he'll be confronted on why this war started on the 7th Oct Edited November 9, 2023 by Bkk Brian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, Jeff the Chef said: Zionist clap trap, Israel is an Apartheid state, except that or keep out of it. Says little Sir Echo. 🥱🥱🥱 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, placeholder said: If it turns out to be the case that the resistance from Hamas ends up being far less than expected, I wonder if that can be attributed, at least in part, to the same cause the bedeviled the Russian armed forces. Namely, corruption. Do you mean that the Palestinians in Gaza lost their Northern territory? According to western media supporting Israeli side : YES. Again, private footages can be seen online and I think it's healthy to count 2 to 5 losses of Israeli armored vehicle losses per day (24H) in Northern Gaza. I saw an unverified source on 7th of October of a total of 113 demolished Merkava's< bulldozers, AIFV's, etc. It's difficult to conclude or to confirm with the available media from both sides if Northern Gaza is fully under Israeli control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eloquent pilgrim Posted November 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said: Zionist clap trap, Israel is an Apartheid state, except that or keep out of it. Says Mojo's nodding dog No 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, Thorgal said: Again, private footages can be seen online and I think it's healthy to count 2 to 5 losses of Israeli armored vehicle losses per day (24H) in Northern Gaza. I saw an unverified source on 7th of October of a total of 113 demolished Merkava's< bulldozers, AIFV's, etc. yes of course you did 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Chef Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, Wobblybob said: Eh? 🥴🥴🥴 Having reading problems, Israel is an Apartheid state, end of. Israeli's will be going to hell if there is one, and they are no better than Hamas in my opinion, disgusting Zionist's since 2006. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Come on Jeff, don’t be so utterly disingenuous, you have never, ever, had any sympathy for Israel. Your very first comment on this thread was on the day of the Hamas massacre, 7th October (page 3) and you said “The Human Race, what a shameful lot we are” not any condemnation whatsoever of the appalling atrocities carried out by Hamas, and not a word of sympathy for the many victims. This was before any Israeli retaliation. Your next comment the following day was to post a chart showing more Palestinians killed than Israelis between 2008 and 2023 (which conveniently didn’t show the 1,400 Israelis killed on 7/10) Since then every one of your posts has been anti-Israeli / pro-Hamas, so don’t claim to have ever had any sympathy for Israel, because you never have had any ….. pants on fire. You are not obliged to have any sympathy for Israel, and are at liberty not to have any at all at your choice; but don’t try and give any weight to any of your comments by saying you have lost something that you never had to begin with. Haaretz (with subscription) published an online list of all Israeli citizens who died since the 7th of October attack. The list has 683 causalities since 23rd of October. Some 331 victims were police force + IDF soldiers (48,4%) read combatants. Are you sure this 1.400 figure is correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Chef Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: Says little Sir Echo. 🥱🥱🥱 Deaf dumb and blind, so expected, chosen people my arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said: Zionist clap trap, Israel is an Apartheid state, except that or keep out of it. It would be exceptional not to except that Do you accept that ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Thorgal said: Haaretz (with subscription) published an online list of all Israeli citizens who died since the 7th of October attack. The list has 683 causalities since 23rd of October. Some 331 victims were police force + IDF soldiers (48,4%) read combatants. Are you sure this 1.400 figure is correct? Are you sure this 1.400 figure is correct? Yes its correct and includes IDF killed, please provide a credible link to disprove it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Chef Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, Nick Carter icp said: It would be exceptional not to except that Do you accept that ? Give me that in plain English, try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Thorgal said: Do you mean that the Palestinians in Gaza lost their Northern territory? According to western media supporting Israeli side : YES. Again, private footages can be seen online and I think it's healthy to count 2 to 5 losses of Israeli armored vehicle losses per day (24H) in Northern Gaza. I saw an unverified source on 7th of October of a total of 113 demolished Merkava's< bulldozers, AIFV's, etc. It's difficult to conclude or to confirm with the available media from both sides if Northern Gaza is fully under Israeli control. I did preface my comment with this: "If it turns out to be the case that the resistance from Hamas ends up being far less than expected..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: If that's the best you can come up with, I wouldn't have bothered. Israel have opened humanitarian corridors for the Palestinians so stop banding nonsense words like "genocide" about, it is totally nonsense nor does it have the dramatic effect you seek! I can think of at least 4,104 Palestinian children who won’t be able to access the “humanitarian” corridor. So no genocide, okay. How about a little indiscriminate bombing of residential areas that kills innocent civilians at a rate unseen anywhere for decades - is that how we civilised folk should respond to “these people”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted November 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said: Having reading problems, Israel is an Apartheid state, end of. Israeli's will be going to hell if there is one, and they are no better than Hamas in my opinion, disgusting Zionist's since 2006. A proven anti semite would say that wouldn't he, even to justify the disturbing events that happened on the 7th, just one month ago infact. Even your poor attempt at whataboutery will not negate those vile attacks. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: Are you sure this 1.400 figure is correct? Yes its correct and includes IDF killed, please provide a credible link to disprove it Why don't you search yourself : https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-19/ty-article-magazine/israels-dead-the-names-of-those-killed-in-hamas-massacres-and-the-israel-hamas-war/0000018b-325c-d450-a3af-7b5cf0210000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, MrMojoRisin said: I can think of at least 4,104 Palestinian children who won’t be able to access the “humanitarian” corridor. So no genocide, okay. How about a little indiscriminate bombing of residential areas that kills innocent civilians at a rate unseen anywhere for decades - is that how we civilised folk should respond to “these people”? You'll be blaming that on Hamas then, no, thought not.🥴 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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