I reckon the Savannakhet Embassy is about to become very busy..

[JensenZ]

8 hours ago, NanLaew said:

And yet despite them all being "much more fun", here you are back in Thailand.

Running all over SE Asia to have fun doesn't sound like any fun at all. When I was a young guy I did more than enough travelling. Now I like to stay in one place. In fact, assuming the fun-seeker is a retired old man, the idea of searching for fun is a bit weird. I don't think I even know what fun is. I did live in the Philippines for over 5 years and most definately don't want to go back there.

[Gottfrid]

14 hours ago, bob smith said:

I could easily do that.

 

No problem for me.

Does that mean you will move and pester the Laos forum instead during 185 days?

[EVENKEEL]

14 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Income tax isn't related to anyone's Thailand immigration status or their Thailand long-stay entitlement.

 

If you have a Thai bank account in your name, the Thailand Revenue Department already know where to "find" you.

 

If you are happy to fund your long-stay through credit cards and cash withdrawals from foreign banks via the ATM, you'll be OK.

That's exactly what I'd do, and switch from the 65k monthly route to using an agent. Unless the tax is less than agent

[ToolKit]

15 hours ago, SingAPorn said:

Plan B could be to move out to a more friendly countries in Asia, with less immigration hassles, hotter gals, cheaper prices and great quality of living.

Malaysia. The Philippines. I also lived in Japan for a while, MUCH less expensive than I thought. 20 kilometers north of Tokyo (Koshigaya), I paid USD 450 a month for a two-room apartment. Food is inexpensive too in supermarkets.

[blackcab]

14 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Income tax isn't related to anyone's Thailand immigration status or their Thailand long-stay entitlement.

 

With the exception of those working for a Thai company with a work permit and an extension of stay.

 

When they apply for their annual extension of stay they have to provide their previous year's tax return.

[Lemsta69]

14 hours ago, JeffersLos said:

Very easy.

 

The same as when departure tax had to be paid in cash before exiting, before it was hidden in the ticket price.

 

No pay tax, no leave. It was their immigration system at borders for years. 

It isn't a tax, it's a Passenger Service Charge that is collected by the relevant airport corporation, not immigration or the revenue department.

Edited October 13, 2023 by Lemsta69

[ChaiyaTH]

What part of tax regulations do people in

this post still not get? Leaving in between does not make a difference, specially not if you are also not taxed in your home country while there is a DTA.

 

180 days is 180 days. In a calendar year. That is simply how it is going down if all is implemented as of known now, you can bet on that.

 

You guys are also brilliant naive on the fact that it really isnt hard anymore to track how long you been here, or to then flag you down on not having reported and paid later on.

 

The technology that is coming to your guys of the older generation, must be mind blowing, its gonna be like 20X faster than the past decade, per year. With other words: control.

 

Sure nothing changes for those with means and connections but that doesnt help you or most here.

 

if you think to compare this to the failing systems like their immigration today, you are naive too, they do that on purpose because its a economy within a economy.

 

why you think they can find people so fast when they want to, they have israeli software even. Not to mention thais banking system is one of the more new and advanced ones compared to europe let alone the usa who still lives in pre history.

Edited October 13, 2023 by ChaiyaTH

[thecyclist]

18 hours ago, Prubangboy said:

Laos business visa is very iffy to get. Prob have to pay under the table. I had a cultural visa there for six months. It required a donation.

 

Also, in Laos, if they are unhappy with you, they just drive you to a border and send you on your way. No hearing, no nothing. 2 Christians were handing out Jesus DVD's in Vientiane. They were relieved of their dvd's, allowed to collect their luggage, and dropped at The Friendship Bridge. So a little insecure as a residence.

 

Rent's in Sakanavet? Prob not a lot of places to rent.

 2 Christians were handing out Jesus DVD's in Vientiane.????????????

Jehovah's witnesses or Mormons ?

Jesus DVds?? 

So, basically 2 nutcases were shown the door. 

 

[rattlesnake]

19 hours ago, bob smith said:

Please don’t miss my point.

 

My point is this: If tax is connecting to ones visa, ie marriage extension for example, that would be easy to enforce. The IO could just ask for proof of the funds and tax returns paid on them.

 

But if one is on a Non O multi entry, then unless they start asking for Tax returns at consulates there would be no way to enforce it.

I'm 99% sure this whole thing is going to get so complicated within the first few days that they will drop it… as they usually drop all their "good ideas", such as the "crackdown on agents" a few months ago or the "obligation to show proof of vaccination upon arriving" last year..

[Highlandman]

On 10/13/2023 at 9:12 AM, bob smith said:

And what self respecting foreigner would go through such an arduous process just to legally stay here?

 

People will leave in droves.

 

Thailand isn’t the only place in Asia where one can live comfortably. 

 

None of this is going to happen anyway. It’s all pure speculation. They would be fools to implement such draconian measures. 

 

Yeah I don't see them doing that either. The tax certificate nonsense from the early 90s might have worked back then when hardly anyone traveled in or out of Thailand by land (at the time, effectively only the Malaysian border was open anyway) and not that many expats were living in Thailand and not many foreigners came to Thailand in general. These days are different, I don't see them going back to that.

 

Anything is possible, though I don't see it happening.

[Highlandman]

On 10/14/2023 at 2:33 AM, thecyclist said:

 2 Christians were handing out Jesus DVD's in Vientiane.????????????

Jehovah's witnesses or Mormons ?

Jesus DVds?? 

So, basically 2 nutcases were shown the door. 

 

Laos doesn't permit religious proselytizing. Malaysia only allows it for Islam, not other religions. Thailand offers the greatest amount of religious freedom in mainland SE Asia. 

[Highlandman]

On 10/14/2023 at 2:21 AM, ChaiyaTH said:

What part of tax regulations do people in

this post still not get? Leaving in between does not make a difference, specially not if you are also not taxed in your home country while there is a DTA.

 

180 days is 180 days. In a calendar year. That is simply how it is going down if all is implemented as of known now, you can bet on that.

 

You guys are also brilliant naive on the fact that it really isnt hard anymore to track how long you been here, or to then flag you down on not having reported and paid later on.

 

The technology that is coming to your guys of the older generation, must be mind blowing, its gonna be like 20X faster than the past decade, per year. With other words: control.

 

Sure nothing changes for those with means and connections but that doesnt help you or most here.

 

if you think to compare this to the failing systems like their immigration today, you are naive too, they do that on purpose because its a economy within a economy.

 

why you think they can find people so fast when they want to, they have israeli software even. Not to mention thais banking system is one of the more new and advanced ones compared to europe let alone the usa who still lives in pre history.

We're talking about a country where police officers manually switch traffic lights, 1953 style.

 

I don't doubt anything is possible, but I don't see immigration as enforcers of tax regulations. Only 6% of Thais even pay tax, so clearly the Thai government isn't very efficient with tax collection.

[Highlandman]

On 10/13/2023 at 10:03 AM, ThomasThBKK said:

 

Cambodia has taxes on worldwide income. Far worse than the new Thailand laws. 

 

 

Except Cambodia has zero enforcement mechanism and thus its a non issue. 

[PJ71]

On 10/13/2023 at 12:55 AM, bob smith said:

No, its not my plan B.

 

How would they enforce tax collection for people on Non O Multiple entry visas?

 

Is the tax man going to be knocking on my door when he doesn’t know where I live??

Your first mistake is thinking they don't know where you live.

[ChaiyaTH]

 

16 hours ago, Highlandman said:

We're talking about a country where police officers manually switch traffic lights, 1953 style.

 

I don't doubt anything is possible, but I don't see immigration as enforcers of tax regulations. Only 6% of Thais even pay tax, so clearly the Thai government isn't very efficient with tax collection.

You clearly know little about IT. They even check every 500K transfer, maybe you never even did such sizes. The reason only 6% of Thai people pay tax is because they not earn enough, ffs, this forum really holds few brains. The fact a country is run backwards, doesn't mean it's banking system is, let alone to know who is due for taxes. 

Edited October 24, 2023 by ChaiyaTH

[brianthainess]

On 10/13/2023 at 7:44 AM, bob smith said:

If Thailand does indeed bring in this ridiculous tax policy on foreign income generated abroad then it should be relatively easy for us married folk to dodge the bullet.

Good job I'm not rich then, I don't have enough money to earn any interest above my yearly allowance in my home country, there is a lot of fear mongering about this tax policy.

[Fortunateson]

Savannakhet does not have an embassy.  Consulate?

Edited October 24, 2023 by Fortunateson

[brianthainess]

16 hours ago, Highlandman said:

Laos doesn't permit religious proselytizing. Malaysia only allows it for Islam, not other religions. Thailand offers the greatest amount of religious freedom in mainland SE Asia. 

But it's all fiction so why make a fuss about it? may as well ban 'Wind in The Willows' or' Alice through the Looking Glass'

[bob smith]

1 hour ago, brianthainess said:

Good job I'm not rich then, I don't have enough money to earn any interest above my yearly allowance in my home country, there is a lot of fear mongering about this tax policy.

Fear mongering indeed.

It won’t happen.

 

but on the off chance that it does, I’ve got my Khmer residence complete with personal maid all lined up..

[brianthainess]

53 minutes ago, bob smith said:

Fear mongering indeed.

It won’t happen.

 

but on the off chance that it does, I’ve got my Khmer residence complete with personal maid all lined up..

You'll need 10 on the tenth day of xmas.