Suella Braverman calls for ‘further action’ against pro-Palestine marches

[CharlieH]

 

Suella Braverman has demanded “further action” against pro-Palestine marches, as centrist Conservative MPs expressed despair at Rishi Sunak’s delay in sacking his rogue home secretary.

One senior backbencher predicted “a lot of noise” from angry colleagues when they return to parliament on Monday, with no signs of imminent action from Sunak after a series of controversies involving Braverman.

 

Another MP said: “Every day she remains in office it further undermines the prime minister’s authority.”

In her first public pronouncement since far-right groups fought officers near the Cenotaph, the home secretary made no comment on claims by Labour and the Met police that tensions had been inflamed in part by her own rhetoric.

Condemning violence among both a large pro-Palestine demonstration and what she termed “counterprotesters”, Braverman focused on what she called “sick, inflammatory and, in some cases, clearly criminal chants, placards and paraphernalia openly on display” at the main march.

Writing on X, she said: “This can’t go on. Week by week, the streets of London are being polluted by hate, violence, and antisemitism. Members of the public are being mobbed and intimidated. Jewish people in particular feel threatened. Further action is necessary.”

Last week Braverman provoked fury after she ignored Downing Street’s request that she tone down an opinion piece for the Times, in which she accused the police of bias in how they deal with political protests.

 

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[Chomper Higgot]

Sunak dither’s and delays, as Braverman takes advantage of his weakness.

 

He should have fired her on the spot the moment she broke the ministerial code, the PM has absolute authority to do so.

 

Weakness is allowing a dangerous authoritarian to build her airport base.

 

 

[JonnyF]

Braverman is absolutely correct. The Met police are a disgrace, ignoring the anti semitism, calls for Jihad and violence from the Pro Palestine mob while cracking down hard on the small number of counter protestors (which the BBC and the Guardian then focus their reporting on). Absolutely pathetic.

 

Let's hope Sunak resigns and Braverman gets the top job. The UK needs strong leadership right now, not a weak lily livered PM like Sunak.

 

 

[Wobblybob]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Sunak dither’s and delays, as Braverman takes advantage of his weakness.

 

He should have fired her on the spot the moment she broke the ministerial code, the PM has absolute authority to do so.

 

Weakness is allowing a dangerous authoritarian to build her airport base.

 

 

I agree that Sunak is weak but is it fair to say that the left are scared of Suella Braverman because she has the courage of her convictions. She is the only Tory MP holding the Party together at the moment, get rid of her and Labour will have a easy ride to victory. And I think you'll agree that the last thing that the UK needs at this moment is an anti-Semitic Labour Government!

[Georgealbert]

29 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Braverman is absolutely correct. The Met police are a disgrace, ignoring the anti semitism, calls for Jihad and violence from the Pro Palestine mob while cracking down hard on the small number of counter protestors (which the BBC and the Guardian then focus their reporting on). Absolutely pathetic.

 

Let's hope Sunak resigns and Braverman gets the top job. The UK needs strong leadership right now, not a weak lily livered PM like Sunak.

 

 

Where were you yesterday? You missed your chance to add your one sided narrow minded false facts.

 

Thought you must be locked up for shouting “England to I die”

 

Maybe on a short ban, for some of the other recent posts

[Wobblybob]

1 minute ago, Georgealbert said:

Where were you yesterday? You missed your chance to add your one sided narrow minded false facts.

 

Thought you must be locked up for shouting “England to I die”

 

Maybe on a short ban, for some of the other recent posts

Charm schools not working George.🥱

[Georgealbert]

1 minute ago, Wobblybob said:

Charm schools not working George.🥱

55555

 

 

[JonnyF]

2 minutes ago, Georgealbert said:

Where were you yesterday? You missed your chance to add your one sided narrow minded false facts.

 

Thought you must be locked up for shouting “England to I die”

 

Maybe on a short ban, for some of the other recent posts

 

Awww it's nice to know you missed me.

 

I was at the gym in the morning, a long lunch with friends at Wine Connection in the afternoon and then watched Last Stop Larimar on Netflix in the evening. Given the fact you follow me around the forum I'm surprised you haven't noticed I rarely post at weekends, only during office hours in the week. That's what happens when you have a social life.

 

No ban for me. That's why I've had the same account for 16 years. Unlike you with a fresh one every few weeks.

 

I stand by my assessment that the police are too cowardly to arrest the thousands shouting anti semitic chants or calling for Jihad, easier to go after a handful of counter protestors or some grandpa tweeting hurty words, or maybe another autistic girl who noticed an officer looked like her lesbian nana. Or maybe they could go back to shooting the dogs of a homeless man with mental health issues? Low hanging fruit and all that. The Met Police are utterly pathetic. An embarrassment to the nation.

 

 

 

[Georgealbert]

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Awww it's nice to know you missed me.

 

I was at the gym in the morning, a long lunch with friends at Wine Connection in the afternoon and then watched Last Stop Larimar on Netflix in the evening. Given the fact you follow me around the forum I'm surprised you haven't noticed I rarely post at weekends, only during office hours in the week. That's what happens when you have a social life.

 

No ban for me. That's why I've had the same account for 16 years. Unlike you with a fresh one every few weeks.

 

I stand by my assessment that the police are too cowardly to arrest the thousands shouting anti semitic chants or calling for Jihad, easier to go after a handful of counter protestors or some grandpa tweeting hurty words, or maybe another autistic girl who noticed an officer looked like her lesbian nana. Or maybe they could go back to shooting the dogs of a homeless man with mental health issues? Low hanging fruit and all that. The Met Police are utterly pathetic. An embarrassment to the nation.

 

 

 

We do not need you to tell us the history of your day, no one is interested.

 

As you seem to know so much about the Met, can you tell us what your experience, knowledge, training and possible police rank was, so we can judge if you are qualified to pass such comments.

 

Or was it all something you saw on youtube, like normal.

[JonnyF]

12 minutes ago, Georgealbert said:

We do not need you to tell us the history of your day, no one is interested.

 

As you seem to know so much about the Met, can you tell us what your experience, knowledge, training and possible police rank was, so we can judge if you are qualified to pass such comments.

 

Or was it all something you saw on youtube, like normal.

 

You asked me where I was yesterday, so clearly you were interested . I had a lovely day thanks, better than bickering on here.

 

You don't need to have worked for The Met to see that they are ignoring the hate speech of the Pro Palestine marches. In fact, I'd argue someone who has never been involved with such a pathetic, cowardly organization is in a better position to comment than someone who has.

 

Don't tell me, after your long and storied career in fire fighting in the electric car fire thread, you were also a high ranking officer in the Met for 30 years for the purposes of this thread, and no doubt a member of the SAS while posting in the Ukraine war thread?

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Braverman is absolutely correct. The Met police are a disgrace, ignoring the anti semitism, calls for Jihad and violence from the Pro Palestine mob while cracking down hard on the small number of counter protestors (which the BBC and the Guardian then focus their reporting on). Absolutely pathetic.

 

Let's hope Sunak resigns and Braverman gets the top job. The UK needs strong leadership right now, not a weak lily livered PM like Sunak.

 

 

There you go, supporting a extremist rightwing authoritarian.

 

No surprises there whatsoever.

[RayC]

The last thing that the UK needs is an authoritarian, extreme right-wing bigot without an ounce of empathy as leader of one of its' major political parties.

 

Worrying times.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Wobblybob said:

I agree that Sunak is weak but is it fair to say that the left are scared of Suella Braverman because she has the courage of her convictions. She is the only Tory MP holding the Party together at the moment, get rid of her and Labour will have an easy ride to victory. And I think you'll agree that the last thing that the UK needs at this moment is an anti-Semitic Labour Government!

 

The left scared of Braverman?

 

She’s running her mouth on all the issues that are nowhere near the concerns of voters as the General Election approaches.

 

Her politics of division and negativity were well in place ahead of the recent bi-elections and yet the Tories got trounced.

 

She’s courting rightwing extremists who figure high in the Tory Party but low in amongst the voting public.

 

She’s a gift to opponents of this failing Government.

 

[Georgealbert]

9 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

You asked me where I was yesterday, so clearly you were interested . I had a lovely day thanks, better than bickering on here.

 

You don't need to have worked for The Met to see that they are ignoring the hate speech of the Pro Palestine marches. In fact, I'd argue someone who has never been involved with such a pathetic, cowardly organization is in a better position to comment than someone who has.

 

Don't tell me, after your long and storied career in fire fighting in the electric car fire thread, you were also a high ranking officer in the Met for 30 years for the purposes of this thread, and no doubt a member of the SAS while posting in the Ukraine war thread?

Standard reply from you, no qualifications or experience to what you claim you know. You have no facts and just post falsehoods, or trolling.

 

You seem to think the fire service does not work with the police, 55555. Maybe if you had incident command knowledge, you would know about the UK gold, silver and bronze incident command structures. I have been silver and bronze commander on many incidents, protest demonstrations and political conferences. If you really interested I was seconded for two years to the Met, for the implementation of the UK, Crime and Disorder Bill 1998, and enjoyed going through the police riot and civil disturbance training.

 

My experience has taught me that you are the type of persons that would not survive one day in the police, without sh**ting your pants.

 

So end of discussion, with a final thought.

[bignok]

59 minutes ago, Georgealbert said:

55555

 

 

Plenty of colourful ones now.

[JonnyF]

10 minutes ago, Georgealbert said:

I have been silver and bronze commander on many incidents, protest demonstrations and political conferences. If you really interested I was seconded for two years to the Met, for the implementation of the UK, Crime and Disorder Bill 1998, and enjoyed going through the police riot and civil disturbance training.

 

Yeah, somehow I thought you might have been .

 

I bet you're a black belt in Karate as well .

 

[Georgealbert]

Just now, bignok said:

Plenty of colourful ones now.

5555 Thanks

[Georgealbert]

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Yeah, somehow I thought you might have been .

 

I bet you're a black belt in Karate as well .

 

What is your problem? You seem to think no one has more knowledge, training or experience on any subject. Seem to also think on you are every right.

 

Do you have inferiority complex? Is your IQ that low? Do you just Troll? Has your life been that unsuccessful?

 

Bye, stay with youtube for your knowledge, sad …… …..

[spidermike007]

God forbid the people be allowed to protest extremist and genocidal Israeli policy. That's not to say that I sympathize with Hamas, I don't on any level, but the constant slaughter of women and children is not accomplishing anything but the generation of additional hatred, animosity, and the delaying of anything resembling a solution. 

[JonnyF]

1 minute ago, Georgealbert said:

What is your problem?

 

No problem, I just prefer not to waste my time with Walter Mitty types, of which there are many in Thailand...

[Danderman123]

24 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

God forbid the people be allowed to protest extremist and genocidal Israeli policy. That's not to say that I sympathize with Hamas, I don't on any level, but the constant slaughter of women and children is not accomplishing anything but the generation of additional hatred, animosity, and the delaying of anything resembling a solution. 

It's okay to sympathize for the Gazans, another to support Hamas.

 

Although not many people sympathized with German citizens who were being bombed during WWII.

[Wobblybob]

1 hour ago, RayC said:

The last thing that the UK needs is an authoritarian, extreme right-wing bigot without an ounce of empathy as leader of one of its' major political parties.

 

Worrying times.

Only for the left, the Tories need to move further to the right to have any chance at the GE. Braverman would make a superb leader!

[Wobblybob]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

The left scared of Braverman?

 

She’s running her mouth on all the issues that are nowhere near the concerns of voters as the General Election approaches.

 

Her politics of division and negativity were well in place ahead of the recent bi-elections and yet the Tories got trounced.

 

She’s courting rightwing extremists who figure high in the Tory Party but low in amongst the voting public.

 

She’s a gift to opponents of this failing Government.

 

The trouncing at the bi elections has nothing to do with Braverman, it more to do with a weak Tory Government under the weak control of its leader Sunak.

[CRUNCHER]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

God forbid the people be allowed to protest extremist and genocidal Israeli policy. That's not to say that I sympathize with Hamas, I don't on any level, but the constant slaughter of women and children is not accomplishing anything but the generation of additional hatred, animosity, and the delaying of anything resembling a solution. 

Quite right. 

 

Israel wants to eradicate Hamas; instead they are on a Hamas recruitment drive.

Edited November 13, 2023 by CRUNCHER

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Wobblybob said:

The trouncing at the bi elections has nothing to do with Braverman, it more to do with a weak Tory Government under the weak control of its leader Sunak.

No please, get rid of Sunak and replace him with Braverman.

 

Just do it.

[Wobblybob]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No please, get rid of Sunak and replace him with Braverman.

 

Just do it.

Take that as a given.👍

[RayC]

2 hours ago, Wobblybob said:

Only for the left, the Tories need to move further to the right to have any chance at the GE. Braverman would make a superb leader!

 

Imo the second worse thing that could happen to the UK is this bigoted nutjob becoming Tory leader. The worst thing doesn't bear thinking about.

 

[spidermike007]

3 hours ago, CRUNCHER said:

Quite right. 

 

Israel wants to eradicate Hamas; instead they are on a Hamas recruitment drive.

 

In the world of political studies it is known as blowback, and the blowback from this one is going to last decades. 

[Wobblybob]

Just now, RayC said:

 

Imo the second worse thing that could happen to the UK is this bigoted nutjob becoming Tory leader. The worst thing doesn't bear thinking about.

 

The country is collapsing beneath the very feet of its inhabitants, the left are running every establishment they can lay their hands on, same with the BBC the public pay a licence to hear luvvie Gary Lineker preaching about everything and nothing, the programs do not reflect the viewing audience. The police go on woke courses now before they are allowed to paint their faces with the LGBT rainbows, they are a joke.

 

Why the left are not happy with a Tory Govt is a mystery to me as they are more of a Socialist party than Labour, and how anyone can vote for a antisemitic Labour party defies all logic, but it's looking like they just might, but as Harold Wilson once said "a week is a long time in politics". The Tories could pull it off but that would mean changing tack and that would inflame the all ready inflammatory left of our society.

 

But to finish Braverman is only disliked by the left, but she is what's needed to revigorate the now defunct Tories, they need to become more conservative and go back to what they are supposed to represent, for at this moment in time they have squandered an eighty seat majority and failed to deliver on their manifesto. She would get the backing from the country but obviously not from snowflakes or the loony left, btw, I have not pigeon holed you in either category. 🤔

[Chomper Higgot]

58 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

The country is collapsing beneath the very feet of its inhabitants, the left are running every establishment they can lay their hands on, same with the BBC the public pay a licence to hear luvvie Gary Lineker preaching about everything and nothing, the programs do not reflect the viewing audience. The police go on woke courses now before they are allowed to paint their faces with the LGBT rainbows, they are a joke.

 

Why the left are not happy with a Tory Govt is a mystery to me as they are more of a Socialist party than Labour, and how anyone can vote for a antisemitic Labour party defies all logic, but it's looking like they just might, but as Harold Wilson once said "a week is a long time in politics". The Tories could pull it off but that would mean changing tack and that would inflame the all ready inflammatory left of our society.

 

But to finish Braverman is only disliked by the left, but she is what's needed to revigorate the now defunct Tories, they need to become more conservative and go back to what they are supposed to represent, for at this moment in time they have squandered an eighty seat majority and failed to deliver on their manifesto. She would get the backing from the country but obviously not from snowflakes or the loony left, btw, I have not pigeon holed you in either category. 🤔

 14 years of Tory Government and you are blaming the left.