The number of Thais suffering from diabetes is forecast to increase to about 5.3 million in 2040,  from this year’s 4.8 million, with the possibility of an increasing number of cases among children and adolescents, according to forecasts by the International Diabetes Federation and the Diabetes Association of Thailand.

 

On World Diabetes Day today, Piyada Prasertsom, manager of the Network of Thai Children against Sugar, said that the most worrisome aspect of diabetes in Thailand is that more Thai youngsters are suffering from it, due to their eating habits.

 

Although most diabetes cases are found in middle-aged people, she noted that Type 2 diabetes has been detected in Thai children, aged just 10 or 11, due to eating too much sugar.

 

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Full story: Thai PBS 2023-11-14

 

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15 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

due to eating too much sugar.

Garbage, it's junk food, too much of it, fat sugar combo is what's doing it. While people keep blaming sugar the problem will only get worse.

 

They don't want to stop people eating at kfc, McDonald's, 7 Eleven etc, easier to blame sugar

Edited November 14, 20232 yr by scubascuba3

I tend to see more fat Thai kids in urban setting than rural settings.  McDonalds and 7/11 have yet to make it this far out into the rice fields or nowhereville.  The normal village kids, as a whole, are definitely well fed, often taller and fuller built than their parents and grand-parents, but not obese.  I find it really sad to to see little porkers who as adolescents are clinically obese.  Especially when they are portrayed as "normal" and cute on Thai advertisements.  Obese is neither normal, healthy, or cute.

I guess that almost all Thai food has sugar

Not really surprising as Thai food is full of sugar.

Sugar is a big problem in Thailand. they put sugar in everything 

Every once in a while like to make Pizza from scratch. 

and while at Macro I saw Hunts tomato sauce n abd being familiar with the brand from the US I bought some 

After making the pizza it tasted sweet, and I was perplexed, Did I put too much sugar in the yeast proof?

Before I use my yeast for the dough I put it in my warm water with a small pinch of sugar for yeast food, to see if it is still alive, If after 5 minutes it starts to bubble up, then I am good to go. 

So I thought that inadvertently some how I put too much sugar.

There was a bit of  tomato sauce left in the sauce  pot and I don't know why i decided to taste some. 

It was loaded with sugar. It seems that even international brands change their recipe  for import into Thailand. 

I used to eat the old retro sweets.  Proper wagon wheels.  Kit kats in the foil.  Quality Street at Christmas.  But I can't eat this modern crap.  The quality has gone down.  Can't even tell the flavors anymore.  Just a slimey bar of chemicals.

Edited November 14, 20232 yr by Chris Daley

It's not the sugar per se, it's the sedentary lifestyle and the abundance; sugar just exacerbates the problem. Lots of sugar around when I was kid, it rotted our teeth, but I and my peers were pretty skinny.

Hi can I get a sandwich, with sugar pork, and sugar mayo and 4 slices of sweet bread to a ratio of 3 fillings?  Oh wait no because that is <deleted> disgusting and Thailand didn't get the memo on what a sandwich is.

4 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Garbage, it's junk food, too much of it, fat sugar combo is what's doing it. While people keep blaming sugar the problem will only get worse.

 

They don't want to stop people eating at kfc, McDonald's, 7 Eleven etc, easier to blame sugar

 

Plenty of sugar in McDonald's "food"… among other things. In any case, I have seen overweight Thai people in villages where there is no fast food outlet in a 100 km radius. But there is a lady who drives by every day selling coffee. I ordered an iced tea once and watched her make it. 1, 2, 3, 4 tablespoons of white sugar…

 

I have also noticed that people have gained weight since Covid, no doubt because they are eating less protein and more carbohydrates as it is cheaper, which leads to weight gain. Ultimately, sugar is always the culprit… as well as additives which disrupt the metabolism.

 

 

 

Edited November 14, 20232 yr by rattlesnake

4 hours ago, Chris Daley said:

I used to eat the old retro sweets.  Proper wagon wheels.  Kit kats in the foil.  Quality Street at Christmas.  But I can't eat this modern crap.  The quality has gone down.  Can't even tell the flavors anymore.  Just a slimey bar of chemicals.

Weren’t ‘Wagon Wheels’ a bit artificial too. Not real chocolate and a an marshmallow concoction inside. Not exactly a natural product. 

Removed two troll posts.

It is not all Mcdonalds or sugar.  It is the base of most meals being rice and noodles.  And, instant noodles is one of the worst 

things to eat leading to Diabetes.  Vegetables can rarely be found in the cheap food consumed.  Some fried meat and mostly rice or noodles. Or, kids slurping instant noodle box.   This situation will just get much worse.

Edited November 14, 20232 yr by bkk6060

8 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

They don't want to stop people eating at kfc, McDonald's, 7 Eleven etc, easier to blame sugar

 

It's carbohydrates in all their forms, too many carbs of all kinds - and everything they eat here is overloaded with carbs - for example - rice and noodles - pure carbs.

 

Carbs of course are just another form of sugar once they get digested. Eating rice is almost as effective as drinking liquid glucose which is the highest form of concentrated carbohydrate (read sugar) of them all. So anything high in starch (rice, potato, noodles, etc) and of course sugar itself are all carbohydrates and when combined together as they often are = this is the issue.

 

Edited November 14, 20232 yr by ukrules

5 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Plenty of sugar in McDonald's "food"… among other things. In any case, I have seen overweight Thai people in villages where there is no fast food outlet in a 100 km radius. But there is a lady who drives by every day selling coffee. I ordered an iced tea once and watched her make it. 1, 2, 3, 4 tablespoons of white sugar…

 

I have also noticed that people have gained weight since Covid, no doubt because they are eating less protein and more carbohydrates as it is cheaper, which leads to weight gain. Ultimately, sugar is always the culprit… as well as additives which disrupt the metabolism.

 

 

 

As i said previously which you ignored, it's the fatty sugary junk food from places like 7 Eleven. I eat loads of sugar and slim and athletic, it's not the enemy, until they and you realise what the real enemy is you'll remain overweight

1 hour ago, ukrules said:

 

It's carbohydrates in all their forms, too many carbs of all kinds - and everything they eat here is overloaded with carbs - for example - rice and noodles - pure carbs.

 

Carbs of course are just another form of sugar once they get digested. Eating rice is almost as effective as drinking liquid glucose which is the highest form of concentrated carbohydrate (read sugar) of them all. So anything high in starch (rice, potato, noodles, etc) and of course sugar itself are all carbohydrates and when combined together as they often are = this is the issue.

 

Carbs are fine, i eat high carb low fat, slim and athletic, how about you? most falangs are overweight with their poor diet, some go keto which they regret after 7+ years

Correct and healthy eating habits start at home, not in schools, and nod not controlled by the government, it will be very hard to wane kids of bad eating habits but not impossible, but it is a long, long road to get adults and young ones to comply after many years of neglect..

22 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Carbs are fine, i eat high carb low fat, slim and athletic, how about you? most falangs are overweight with their poor diet, some go keto which they regret after 7+ years

 

Why are you atheletic? Most of us are not athletes.

 

6 minutes ago, ukrules said:

 

Why are you atheletic? Most of us are not athletes.

 

eat a good high carb low fat diet and exercise, simple when you do the right things

13 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

eat a good high carb low fat diet and exercise, simple when you do the right things

 

I was more interested in your athleticism, do you train extensively to maintain an athletic physique?

 

Because if you do then your high energy diet is going to be perfect for you

3 minutes ago, ukrules said:

 

I was more interested in your athleticism, do you train extensively to maintain an athletic physique?

 

Because if you do then your high energy diet is going to be perfect for you

Cycle 400km a week, but the slim thing is the diet, plenty of overweight cyclists about

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

As i said previously which you ignored, it's the fatty sugary junk food from places like 7 Eleven. I eat loads of sugar and slim and athletic, it's not the enemy, until they and you realise what the real enemy is you'll remain overweight

 

You clearly have it all sussed out, including my BMI. I am humbled by your clairvoyance.

12 hours ago, indyo said:

I guess that almost all Thai food has sugar

When I first came to Thailand 23 years ago rarely ever did you see a fat person. Then aspirational food like 'Muck' Donald's (my pseudonym) started off. Over the years the taste for sugar increased and of course thr new, younger chefs started putting more sugar in food too.

Once about 5 years ago in a nice Ferrang/Thai restaurant my mate and I watched a Pumpui Thai family come in and the young lad orders spaghetti  bolognese. I was thinking  good. Until it arrived on the table and he ladles a heaped spoon of sugar over the top ffs!! T.I.T.

I'm not surprised. All the food here is laced with high amounts of salt and sugar.

 

And US fast food chains have taken over. KFC, Krispy Kreme, McDonalds, Burger King, you name it.

 

You never saw fat Thai people a couple of decades ago. Now there are many, including many fat kids.

14 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Garbage, it's junk food, too much of it, fat sugar combo is what's doing it. While people keep blaming sugar the problem will only get worse.

 

They don't want to stop people eating at kfc, McDonald's, 7 Eleven etc, easier to blame sugar

The problem is actually the refined sugar.

Of course, foods containing carbohydrates become glucose or blood sugar when digested, but these are no way as detrimental to health as the refined sugar.

First, what you refer to as junk food, someone can eat some from time to time.

But refined sugar, people in Thailand cannot eat only from time to time. Refined sugar is in all food, that they eat 3 times a day in their meals, and then added sweet snacks.

Refined sugar is the poison here.

I had not bought refined sugar for some 40 years or so. No refined sugar in my house.

The food that I cooked then did not contain refined sugar.

When I started to have some health issues, I looked for possible causes. Sugar. Then I started looking for sources of this sugar. Only to find out that all food here, yes all, contain added sugar. Even the bottled sauces from the mini-marts contain typically some 20% of added refined sugar.

So I stopped completely to eat Thai food, that I now consider as a slow acting poison.  When I discussed this with a fellow from my country also, I remember him saying: 'I thought that I was eating healthy'. Vegetables, chicken, rice, all sound good doesn't it?

 

Here are two photos of refined sugar delivered to the Super Cheap mini-mart close by. Taken about 10 days apart. They do not even take the time to take the sugar inside the store...

People are slowly poisoning themselves here. So no more Thai food for me.

I have  Thai acquaintance  who was in charge of Supply Chain for a well known and respected Thai fruit juice company. The company claims "sugar free" or "no added sugar" on its packaging. She was buying in 20 tonnes of sugar per month!

3 hours ago, Andre0720 said:

The problem is actually the refined sugar

No it's not, i eat a lot of it along with other carbs

12 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

No it's not, i eat a lot of it along with other carbs

Well, you start off with a sophism, a fallacy. Which typically can be identified when one can reply: 'It is not because this or that, that a conclusion could be right'.

In this instance, "it is not because YOU eat a lot of sugars and carbs, and has yet to develop health problems, that these products are then not dangerous to health."

So just give it a try. It is not that complicated after all.

Yes, one can eat a lot of slow acting poisons, before health can be affected. You will find the reasoning behind that in the word 'SLOW' .

 

From Google: It is common knowledge that white-sugar is a high risk-factor for heart ailments, weight-gain, type-2 diabetes and cancer. Excess white-sugar consumption leads to frequent blood sugar spikes that stress the body's cells and increase the risk for type-2 diabetes.

 

Why is refined sugar poisonous?

Over time, this can lead to a greater accumulation of fat, which may turn into fatty liver disease, a contributor to diabetes, which raises your risk for heart disease. Consuming too much added sugar can raise blood pressure and increase chronic inflammation, both of which are pathological pathways to heart disease.

3 hours ago, Andre0720 said:

Well, you start off with a sophism, a fallacy. Which typically can be identified when one can reply: 'It is not because this or that, that a conclusion could be right'.

In this instance, "it is not because YOU eat a lot of sugars and carbs, and has yet to develop health problems, that these products are then not dangerous to health."

So just give it a try. It is not that complicated after all.

Yes, one can eat a lot of slow acting poisons, before health can be affected. You will find the reasoning behind that in the word 'SLOW' .

 

From Google: It is common knowledge that white-sugar is a high risk-factor for heart ailments, weight-gain, type-2 diabetes and cancer. Excess white-sugar consumption leads to frequent blood sugar spikes that stress the body's cells and increase the risk for type-2 diabetes.

 

Why is refined sugar poisonous?

Over time, this can lead to a greater accumulation of fat, which may turn into fatty liver disease, a contributor to diabetes, which raises your risk for heart disease. Consuming too much added sugar can raise blood pressure and increase chronic inflammation, both of which are pathological pathways to heart disease.

are you overweight?

3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

No it's not, i eat a lot of it along with other carbs

I'll eat some sugar if it (diabetes) doesn't catch up to you in time!

Slim and athletic here too (and scuba diver) but got pre-diabetic and reversed it eating very little processed food.

Being slim doesn't exclude you.