The land of compromise. For some.

Nothing bad about good connections. Records are cleaned for the whole family.

Congrats democracy😂

14 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

She run away from an arrest warrant (or was she already under arrest). She should be punished for that one. 

 

If you were in her shoes at the time, do you honestly believe you'd do any different? 

 

13 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Tell that to America!

 

Only fools and poor people stick around there to be locked up too... 

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

The list is endless..... only in Thailand you find people willing to be paid to go blind.

 

Really? have you never been to the rest of Asia, Africa, South America?

35 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

What about the people , the electorate in a pseudo democacy ?

They are supposed to just stay where they are and not move foreward in any case .

They are needed to legitimize an autocracy .

That's all .

The people voted in 2001. Thaksin's party won.

 

The people voted in 2005, Thaksin's party won.

 

The people voted in 2006, Thaksin's party was set to win, so there was a military coup.

 

The people voted in 2008. Thaksin's party won.

 

The military arranged the installation of the losing party in government.

 

The people voted in 2011. Thaksin's party won.

 

The people voted in 2014. Thaksin's party was set to win, so there was a military coup.

 

The people voted in 2019. Thaksin's party won more seats than any other party, the Junta managed to scrape together a slim coalition majority and remained in power.

 

Legitimising Autocracy, hmm?

 

 

Edited December 27, 20232 yr by herfiehandbag

3 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

The people voted in 2001. Thaksin's party won.

 

The people voted in 2005, Thaksin's party won.

 

The people voted in 2006, Thaksin's party was set to win, so there was a military coup.

 

The people voted in 2008. Thaksin's party won.

 

The military arranged the installation of the losing party in government.

 

The people voted in 2011. Thaksin's party won.

 

The people voted in 2014. Thaksin's party was set to win, so there was a military coup.

 

 

 

MFP won the last elections .

Elected officials should be held to the highest standard and procecuted  if corrupt witmout special deals to escape justice. 

This personnel transfer "charge" was spurious, at best. Most think it was all they could come up with at the time.

 

 

I think she's still facing a 5-year sentence for the Rice Scheme. One assumes the King would reduce that to one year, or less.

 

 

UPDATE:

Yingluck ruling lays bare conservative hypocrisy
by Cod Satrusayang

 

The recent ruling by Thailand’s Supreme Court’s Criminal Division for Holders of Political Positions to drop the case against former Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra is a significant development in Thai politics.

 

Yingluck was accused of abusing her power in the transfer of Thawil Pliansri from his role as the secretary-general of the National Security Council to an adviser position in 2011.

 

The court’s decision, underlining the lack of evidence against Yingluck, is not just a legal judgement but also a symbolic moment that compels a reevaluation of the longstanding conservative case against the Shinawatra family.

 

For years, the Shinawatras have been at the epicenter of Thailand’s turbulent political landscape. Yingluck’s brother, Thaksin Shinawatra, also a former prime minister, faced similar accusations and legal challenges.

 

The consistent pattern of charges and the nature of the political discourse around these cases strongly suggest a narrative driven more by political motivations than by legal or ethical concerns.

 

This narrative has been central to the conservative factions in Thailand, who have positioned themselves as champions of traditional values and national stability, often juxtaposed against the supposed corruption and mismanagement of the Shinawatras.

 

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And so the cycle of corruption and misused power ist completed 

Let's not get too excited about a change in strategy by the powers-that-be. They have many tools in their suppression toolkit, and hypocrisy seems to be a Thai political feature and not a bug.

 

 

The "case" against Pita Limjaroenrat and MFP rests with the Constitutional Court, with a ruling due 31 January 2024.

 

MFP could be dissolved, and Pita charged with various crimes (media share ownership, Lese Majeste). Given the weakness and illegitimacy of the current government and his continued popularity, he could be "enticed" to flee the country, ahead of countless 112 charges at 15 years each.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 27, 20232 yr by bamnutsak

38 minutes ago, zyphodb said:

 

If you were in her shoes at the time, do you honestly believe you'd do any different? 

 

Sorry, but does that somehow make it the right thing to do?

14 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

I really don't want to hear that stupid argument anymore.

A politician does something wrong. Is that a political crime and it should not be prosecuted?

And if a politician commits a crime and the opposition publishes evidence about this crime and demands that that politician should be prosecuted, what then? Should we call that politically motivated prosecution and ignore it?

Or is a crime a crime, independent of who commits it and independent of how it was discovered? 

You pretend that what is grey and complex is black'nwhite & simple.

 

When Western governments make mistakes - as they all do - does the PM/Pres get charged with criminal actions?  Perhaps in Usofa but not in real democracies.

55 minutes ago, zyphodb said:

 

Really? have you never been to the rest of Asia, Africa, South America?

No

1 hour ago, zyphodb said:

 

If you were in her shoes at the time, do you honestly believe you'd do any different? 

 

Please don't apologise for them, they are crooks!

48 minutes ago, Accidental Tourist said:

And so the cycle of corruption and misused power ist completed 

 

Continued, surely?

Pure coincidence that big brother is back in charge.

30 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Please don't apologise for them, they are crooks!

I am confused who you refering to. Here the list for you to contemplate.

- Rolls-Royce and Thai Airways bribery case. Case grind to a halt

- Red Bulll heir mowed down Police Senior sgt - nothing heard

- Bangkok police chief received montly payment of 50k since 2017 - matter closed

- Theft of funds for the poor - nothing heard

- Suthep's police station corruption case - acquitted

By the way Yingluck not charged and convicted for corruption. You can pinned malfeasance on all governments if you need a political expedient reason. 

Just now, Eric Loh said:

I am confused who you refering to. Here the list for you to contemplate.

- Rolls-Royce and Thai Airways bribery case. Case grind to a halt

- Red Bulll heir mowed down Police Senior sgt - nothing heard

- Bangkok police chief received montly payment of 50k since 2017 - matter closed

- Theft of funds for the poor - nothing heard

- Suthep's police station corruption case - acquitted

By the way Yingluck not charged and convicted for corruption. You can pinned malfeasance on all governments if you need a political expedient reason. 

Does the name Shinawatra ring a bell? Who is the topic of THIS OP??? 

15 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

I really don't want to hear that stupid argument anymore.

A politician does something wrong. Is that a political crime and it should not be prosecuted?

And if a politician commits a crime and the opposition publishes evidence about this crime and demands that that politician should be prosecuted, what then? Should we call that politically motivated prosecution and ignore it?

Or is a crime a crime, independent of who commits it and independent of how it was discovered? 

 

Bottom line, she broke the law, plain and simple, she broke the law.

15 hours ago, BritScot said:

Unbelievable people on here. She was ousted by what is the most serious criminal act in a democracy  "a military coup". She did the right thing and called an election and the opposition went into meltdown and tried to stop the ballot knowing she would easily win so some land was purchased and a coup was bought. The country again dragged down with Unbelievably high levels of coruption and incompetence. The real criminals walk free with justice pushed aside and any who protested thrown in prison.  Temple murders, gold mine, toyota shack down, military corruption, slavery one could go on and on. However, these are not crimes but currupt officials who stole in the rice pledge scheme are the then serving pm fault, oh what happened to all the money when the rice was sold off? 

Here here. I second your assessment. She had been arrested, detained and charged by an illegal regime. Why wouldn’t she flee? The real criminals are still in our midsts living without fear of retribution. 
What this whole episode highlights is that the Supreme Court is in the pocket of whoever is in power and is not there to make any decisions based on the point of law. They are only there to add legitimacy to decisions of corrupt government. 

2 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Does the name Shinawatra ring a bell? Who is the topic of THIS OP??? 

Sure does ring louder for you as though corruption is a novelty in Thailand.  

Just now, Eric Loh said:

Sure does ring louder for you as though corruption is a novelty in Thailand.  

Innocent people don't sleaze over the Cambodian border and disappear into exile for years on end!

Still has the rice pledging scheme malfeasance charges, the elite are definitely running scared from these new younger candidates from the move forward party, they are slowly splitting the voters and better the devil you know like Thaksin than this new breed of politicians that want unilateral changes to the country 

16 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Tell that to America!

US citizen based Grand Juries heard the evidence presented before they handed down criminal indictments on 91 charges. Same as in Thailand? And now most charges will be heard by US citizen based Jury Trials. Same as in Thailand. I respect each peoples right to decide their own countries justice system but ... there appears to be substantial differences.

Any charges laid by coup leaders really should be called illegitimate as the result will always be aimed at shutting down the previous democratically elected leaders. 

Just in case there was even the slightest doubt that Thaksin was back in charge

And still no charges for her (OK, the Shinawtra family's) massively corrupt rice-pledging scheme that almost bankrupted the country. If I was loong Prayut, the man who removed her from office, I think I'd be looking for an escape route from Thailand ASAP.

"Money: Money changes everything " as the song goes