Democrats argue Biden is underestimated

[Woof999]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Deflection. Topic is Biden.

 

Deflection? It's directly comparing the criticism of Biden with the holder of the same office that immediately preceded him. That preceding officer also just happens to be the same person that those criticising Biden are trying to get back into office.

 

It's about as on point as you can get. Calling it deflection... is that really the best you've got?

[Hanaguma]

13 hours ago, Woof999 said:

 

Did you ever take a look at Trump's schedule? Typically didn't take first meet until 11am, filled much of the rest of the day with "executive time", time in which he says he was hard at work but insiders report as him watching TV. 3 hours work per day sure does sound better than 5.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42610275

 

He criticised Obama for the amount of golf he played, then played even more himself.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-defends-golf-trips-falsely-claims-less-than-obama-2020-7

Ah yes, "b-b-b-but TRUMP" manages to shoehorn its way into yet another discussion.  If Trump is your gold standard for presidential hard work, then we are all in trouble, my friend. 

 

In any case, you must be happy to know that old Joe is on vacation again, left Friday evening for yet another trip to Delaware. He needs time to recover from his time in the Virgin Islands, sunning himself at the home of one of his billionaire donors. 

 

Oh, and his three day workweek in which exactly one event (2 hours long) was scheduled. 

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

You are so protective of your Orange Jesus that you try to stop people from posting about him.

and that is a deflection. Trump isn't mentioned in the thread title.

[Woof999]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

and that is a deflection. Trump isn't mentioned in the thread title.

 

The post you replied to mentioned Orange Jesus, not Trump. But now that you've brought him up.... fair game.

[ozimoron]

8 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Typical underperformance reported as a good thing by democrats... hiring is still trending at all time lows so comparably is NOT SO GOOD. 

 

When will facts matter? Unemployment is at an all time low. Real wages are rising.

[Woof999]

4 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Ah yes, "b-b-b-but TRUMP" manages to shoehorn its way into yet another discussion.

 

The topic is about Biden being underestimated. Biden loathers have attacked that sentiment by bringing up the hours the Biden works based on his schedule. How can you argue that this schedule is reasonable or not without comparing it to a similar schedule?  Surely the most reasonable schedule to compare it to is the holder of the exact same office immediately prior to Biden.

[Hanaguma]

16 minutes ago, Woof999 said:

 

The topic is about Biden being underestimated. Biden loathers have attacked that sentiment by bringing up the hours the Biden works based on his schedule. How can you argue that this schedule is reasonable or not without comparing it to a similar schedule?  Surely the most reasonable schedule to compare it to is the holder of the exact same office immediately prior to Biden.

And by comparison，both are slothful old f4rts. What is your point?

[Chomper Higgot]

15 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

And by comparison，both are slothful old f4rts. What is your point?

One is fit and takes regular exercise, the other is morbidly obese, slurs terribly and smells worse.

 

 

[candide]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

One is fit and takes regular exercise, the other is morbidly obese, slurs terribly and smells worse.

 

 

The beauty of U.S. politics is that 'Trump stinks' may well end up being  quite effective against him! 😃

[Hanaguma]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

One is fit and takes regular exercise, the other is morbidly obese, slurs terribly and smells worse.

 

 

Calling Biden "fit" is a bit of a stretch. He can't even walk up the regular stairs into an airplane. Now uses the shorter steps. Walks like he has a full diaper. Uses a CPAP machine at night.  

 

Both have "interesting" speech patterns. 

[Jingthing]

37 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Calling Biden "fit" is a bit of a stretch. He can't even walk up the regular stairs into an airplane. Now uses the shorter steps. Walks like he has a full diaper. Uses a CPAP machine at night.  

 

Both have "interesting" speech patterns. 

That's projection.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

Calling Biden "fit" is a bit of a stretch. He can't even walk up the regular stairs into an airplane. Now uses the shorter steps. Walks like he has a full diaper. Uses a CPAP machine at night.  

 

Both have "interesting" speech patterns. 

Pure projection of Trump’s failings.

 

 

[Jingthing]

23 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Pure projection of Trump’s failings.

 

 

Yes and with #TrumpSmells and #TrumpStinks reaching the top of the charts, more people are becoming aware of that. It's the classic Trumpist propaganda game -- accuse others of what you are or have done. That works until it doesn't work. 

Edited January 7 by Jingthing

[Walker88]

Job creation under the last two Presidents, including the one who barks about 'best economy ever'.

 

POTUS 45

 

2017: +2.2 million

2018: +2.7 million

2019: + 2.1 million

2020: -9.4 million

 

President Biden

 

2021: +6.4 million

2022: +4.8 million

2023: +2.7 million

 

(Source: US Bureau of Labor Statistics)

 

POTUS 45 was the first President since Herbert Hoover in 1932 to leave office with fewer Americans working than when he took over from President Obama. Obama left POTUS 45 4.8% unemployment (after inheriting 10% UE from Bush), and POTUS 45 left Biden 6.8% UE.

 

Yes, Joe is underestimated.  Toss in economic growth (after Biden inherited a Recession from POTUS 45, 800,000 new manufacturing jobs, and finally a bipartisan Infrastructure Bill, and old Joe has done a pretty good job.

 

(As for "blah blah blah" about Covid, note that Covid had zero impact in the US until March-April 2020, fully 38 months into POTUS 45's 48 month tenure.)

[Jingthing]

If it's about the economy Biden definitely deserves a second term.

But his PR machine is awful. 

[Hanaguma]

47 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Pure projection of Trump’s failings.

 

 

Nothing to do with Trump, the topic is Biden. And he is most definitely physically infirm.  I mean it isnt surprising- the guy is 80 after all. But to ignore it and instead focus on 'the other guy' is foolish. 

[Hanaguma]

16 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

If it's about the economy Biden definitely deserves a second term.

But his PR machine is awful. 

I disagree. The Democrat PR machine is talented. They spun abortion rights into almost a victory in 2022. But the American people just aren't buying what they are selling. Now that may not last, as interest rates start to fall over the course of the year, but for now it is an albatross around the President's neck. 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Nothing to do with Trump, the topic is Biden. And he is most definitely physically infirm.  I mean it isnt surprising- the guy is 80 after all. But to ignore it and instead focus on 'the other guy' is foolish. 

Biden is not infirm.

 

Get a grip of some reality for a change.

 

 

[Hanaguma]

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Biden is not infirm.

 

Get a grip of some reality for a change.

 

 

Just watch him walk.

 

… the President’s gait appears to be perceptibly stiffer and less fluid than it has been in the past… the differential diagnosis for a gait disturbance can include a variety of neurologic pathologies which would be important to assess for”

 

 https://rockymountainbrainandspineinstitute.com/gait-analysis/

 

 

[Tug]

2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Just watch him walk.

 

… the President’s gait appears to be perceptibly stiffer and less fluid than it has been in the past… the differential diagnosis for a gait disturbance can include a variety of neurologic pathologies which would be important to assess for”

 

 https://rockymountainbrainandspineinstitute.com/gait-analysis/

 

 

Yup he’s an elderly guy that has brought our enemies to their knees tamed inflation revitalized nato adding 2 more top tier members stood tall for supporting democracy in Ukraine stood tall for labor is presiding over an outstanding stockmarket and outstanding unemployment numbers has passed meaning full legislation and is fighting an authoritarian movement in my country……not to shabby for an old duffer ehh he ROCKS!!he could be in a wheelchair for all I care just like FDR who lead this nation through WW2 …….

[illisdean]

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

One is fit and takes regular exercise, the other is morbidly obese, slurs terribly and smells worse.

 

 

And one is dumb as a rock and also polls in the toilet, and goes on Christmas vacation in St.Croix for two weeks, then gives a 32 minute speech in Blue Bell PA where he muttered Trumps name 29 times and NEVER talked about how poorly voters perceive his bidenomics failure then goes home for a weekend rest in DE. Real bag of energy and useless to boot compared to Trump especially in brain function. Majority of voters think Biden lacks the mental soundness for the job and they also say Trump managed the economy and most everything better than turnip brain Biden, as for how they smell, who would know or care, except maybe you but if it's all you got, pretty sad existence for those obsessed on how Trump and Biden smell. Maybe you would like to give Biden a real good sniff job? LOL

 

[Hanaguma]

13 minutes ago, Tug said:

Yup he’s an elderly guy that has brought our enemies to their knees tamed inflation revitalized nato adding 2 more top tier members stood tall for supporting democracy in Ukraine stood tall for labor is presiding over an outstanding stockmarket and outstanding unemployment numbers has passed meaning full legislation and is fighting an authoritarian movement in my country……not to shabby for an old duffer ehh he ROCKS!!he could be in a wheelchair for all I care just like FDR who lead this nation through WW2 …….

Breathe. It's good for the health.

 

Not sure what enemies Joe brought to their knees.  The rest is fluff. And the American people ain't buying it. 

[illisdean]

7 minutes ago, Tug said:

12 minutes ago, Tug said:

all I care just like FDR who lead this nation through WW2 …….

The 

 Biden's weakness as a leader and failures starting with Afghanistan along with his payments and funding to Iran have empowered US enemies and could lead him straight into WW3 with the main dance party being Putin all in time to cancel 2024 elections in the name of stopping Trump. Desperate and corrupt people will do anything to stop Trump. 

[Neeranam]

On 1/2/2024 at 10:30 AM, CharlieH said:

Biden faces challenges going into 2024, but I’m baffled by seemingly smart political people writing his chances off,” said Jim Kessler, co-founder of the centrist think tank Third Way.

I don't understand how anyone would ever consider him a candidate. Any other job, he'd have been put out to pasture years ago. 

He looks like someone with advanced dementia. 

[Jingthing]

22 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I don't understand how anyone would ever consider him a candidate. Any other job, he'd have been put out to pasture years ago. 

He looks like someone with advanced dementia. 

Appearances can be misleading. 

[Tug]

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Breathe. It's good for the health.

 

Not sure what enemies Joe brought to their knees.  The rest is fluff. And the American people ain't buying it. 

Projecting much?lol as for enemies just ask trumps BFF 👯 Mr Putin you know the one that’s trying to exterminate a nation 

[thaibeachlovers]

13 hours ago, Woof999 said:

 

The topic is about Biden being underestimated. Biden loathers have attacked that sentiment by bringing up the hours the Biden works based on his schedule. How can you argue that this schedule is reasonable or not without comparing it to a similar schedule?  Surely the most reasonable schedule to compare it to is the holder of the exact same office immediately prior to Biden.

LOL. Biden stands or falls based on his own activities, not by comparing to anyone else- why don't you bring up a former president that fell asleep in meetings if going to do that?

 

Most of us can work out if Biden is earning his wages or not by what HE does, or does not do.

 

Next.

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, Walker88 said:

POTUS 45 was the first President since Herbert Hoover in 1932 to leave office with fewer Americans working than when he took over from President Obama. Obama left POTUS 45 4.8% unemployment (after inheriting 10% UE from Bush), and POTUS 45 left Biden 6.8% UE.

You are just amazing, really!

 

You complain that Trump left office with less people working than when started and ignore the effect covid had. You even claim that it had no effect on job numbers.

 

Edited January 7 by thaibeachlovers

[candide]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL. Biden stands or falls based on his own activities, not by comparing to anyone else- why don't you bring up a former president that fell asleep in meetings if going to do that?

 

Most of us can work out if Biden is earning his wages or not by what HE does, or does not do.

 

Next.

Obviously, you are not part of them..... ("most of us")

[Skipalongcassidy]

16 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

And by comparison，both are slothful old f4rts. What is your point?

Their "slothful old fart" is their party pick so he is the best thing since sliced bread... they just don't get it... they like rotten eggs over rotten apples.