earlinclaifornia Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: This exemplifies the collapse of the Republican party. Back in the day, the Bush/Cheney team exerted almost total control over the party. Republicans all followed their Leadership, and pronouncements by Bush or Cheney were thought out ahead of time, and then reinforced all down the line by party members. That rigid command structure was ultimately weakened by the lack of voter confidence in Bush foreign policy, the economy, and Katrina. By 2008, Bush was basically alone, and the party never again had that deference to leadership. Now Trump just makes it up as he goes, no advance planning, no Team to disseminate the Talking Point of the Day. It's all chaos, and so elections are lost, year after year. Phew, That is exactly what KellyAnn's husband said yesterday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Smart move. He probably sees a VP slot just like Ramaswami. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted January 22 Popular Post Share Posted January 22 56 minutes ago, riclag said: Starting to count my chickens before they hatch ,thats me! I like for VP either Vivek or Sara Huckerbey Sanders Trump defeats the Marxist choice by a landslide . imop How did your 2020 predictions go? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 15 hours ago, Social Media said: He took a parting shot at Haley, characterizing her as representative of the "old Republican guard of yesteryear" and advocating for a departure from such "warmed-over corporatism." Careful observation of the front runner, and his policies which are essentially based on racism, hatred of "liberals", and slightly off the wall evangelicism suggest to me that the "old Republican guard of yesteryear" and "warmed-over corporatism" may not be such a bad thing. Personally I am disturbed, amongst many things, by proposals to put people of a particular ethnic grouping (Latino immigrants, and their families) in camps behind barbed wire. Bit of a slippery slope I think, there... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 "This was a spectacular failure, one of the greatest in all American politics," Karl said. "DeSantis, if you go back to about a year ago, was actually beating Donald Trump... He spent some $150 million, if you count the money from his super PAC, and he did nothing but go down and down and down." https://www.rawstory.com/trump-dementia-2667028161/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, connda said: Smart move. He probably sees a VP slot just like Ramaswami. Trump voice: I'd like to introduce my running mate, Meatball Ron. He needed me to get elected in Florida, and I hate his guts, but I'm gonna make him VP" Dream on dude. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, mikebike said: Trump voice: I'd like to introduce my running mate, Meatball Ron. He needed me to get elected in Florida, and I hate his guts, but I'm gonna make him VP" Dream on dude. I agree. Trump chose Pence because he needed the bible vote. He just miscalculated on Pence's willingness to break the law. Trump still needs the bible vote. Look for him choosing a Trumpian evangelist. Certainly nobody who voted against him. Other than that, he might choose Leonard Leo or anyone he nominates because of the essential fund raising aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, riclag said: Starting to count my chickens before they hatch ,thats me! I like for VP either Vivek or Sara Huckerbey Sanders Trump defeats the Marxist choice by a landslide . imop Sarah yes, Vivek no. If I had my choice, it would be Condi, if for no other reason than to see her debate Kamala... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said: Careful observation of the front runner, and his policies which are essentially based on racism, hatred of "liberals", and slightly off the wall evangelicism suggest to me that the "old Republican guard of yesteryear" and "warmed-over corporatism" may not be such a bad thing. Personally I am disturbed, amongst many things, by proposals to put people of a particular ethnic grouping (Latino immigrants, and their families) in camps behind barbed wire. Bit of a slippery slope I think, there... Bla bla bla. Only leftists believe this claptrap. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 35 minutes ago, ozimoron said: I agree. Trump chose Pence because he needed the bible vote. He just miscalculated on Pence's willingness to break the law. Trump still needs the bible vote. Look for him choosing a Trumpian evangelist. Certainly nobody who voted against him. Other than that, he might choose Leonard Leo or anyone he nominates because of the essential fund raising aspect. Trump has the bible vote. He needs suburban mothers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Nice dodge. You have provided zero evidence to back up your hogwash assertion. Do you support Israel in the eradication of Hamas? Are you an "anti-Zionist? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: How did your 2020 predictions go? Better than your 2016 predictions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, ozimoron said: I agree. Trump chose Pence because he needed the bible vote. He just miscalculated on Pence's willingness to break the law. Trump still needs the bible vote. Look for him choosing a Trumpian evangelist. Certainly nobody who voted against him. Other than that, he might choose Leonard Leo or anyone he nominates because of the essential fund raising aspect. correction: Nobody who campaigned against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 8 hours ago, ozimoron said: I agree. Trump chose Pence because he needed the bible vote. He just miscalculated on Pence's willingness to break the law. Trump still needs the bible vote. Look for him choosing a Trumpian evangelist. Certainly nobody who voted against him. Other than that, he might choose Leonard Leo or anyone he nominates because of the essential fund raising aspect. I predict he will choose a woman. Certainly not meatball Ron as some seem to be wetting their pants over. His strategists are smart enough to know what the biggest election issue will be. There are a lot of pissed off women out there. I think they are being massively undercounted. Look at the voting results of attempting to restrict rights even in the reddest states. Edited January 22 by mikebike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 8 hours ago, Yellowtail said: Sarah yes, Vivek no. If I had my choice, it would be Condi, if for no other reason than to see her debate Kamala... Condi would never pair up with Stinky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 17 minutes ago, mikebike said: I predict he will choose a woman. Certainly not meatball Ron as some seem to be wetting their pants over. His strategists are smart enough to know what the biggest election issue will be. There are a lot of pissed off women out there. I think they are being massively undercounted. Look at the voting results of attempting to restrict rights even in the reddest states. Women are being restricted from having their votes count? What are you on about? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 50 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Women are being restricted from having their votes count? What are you on about? i know right. its like calling trump a fascist. both totally crazy things that are not based on any kind of reality. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlinclaifornia Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Tim Scott is my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiochaser Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Ditto: Disapproving of Biden’s response to the Israel Hamas war does not equate to “‘support Hamas in their effort to eradicate Israel’.“ You did open and read the article, did you not? You did see the graph right? You know the graph which specifies a percentage democrat's overall which indicates that 44% of democrats do not think that the U.S. of A. is not supportive enough of Palestinians. You know the Palestinians that support hamas by about 80% of the population. So if you support the Palestinians, who by a large majority, support hamas, then de facto, democrats support hamas! Depending on which poll you look at, Palestinians support of hamas ranges from 72 - 90%. (And why did you post the, almost, same response twice? Why ditto?) Democrats are divided on US support for Israelis and Palestinians An AP-NORC poll finds most Democrats who disapprove of Joe Biden's handling of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict want more support for the Palestinians, while fewer approvers agree. Percent of Democrats who say the U.S. support of the following is... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, stoner said: i know right. its like calling trump a fascist. both totally crazy things that are not based on any kind of reality. Trump is a fascist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said: Tim Scott is my guess. Very possible. That's a pick that wouldn't do much to help or hurt him. Yes some would say he would help a lot with the black vote. I seriously doubt it. His skin is black, but ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, Jingthing said: Trump is a fascist. no he really isn't. the fact you keep repeating this lie on here with no recourse amazes me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: His skin is black, but but what.....finish your racist remark. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, radiochaser said: You did open and read the article, did you not? You did see the graph right? You know the graph which specifies a percentage democrat's overall which indicates that 44% of democrats do not think that the U.S. of A. is not supportive enough of Palestinians. You know the Palestinians that support hamas by about 80% of the population. So if you support the Palestinians, who by a large majority, support hamas, then de facto, democrats support hamas! Depending on which poll you look at, Palestinians support of hamas ranges from 72 - 90%. (And why did you post the, almost, same response twice? Why ditto?) Democrats are divided on US support for Israelis and Palestinians An AP-NORC poll finds most Democrats who disapprove of Joe Biden's handling of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict want more support for the Palestinians, while fewer approvers agree. Percent of Democrats who say the U.S. support of the following is... Like everything to do with the conflict, it's more complicated than that. It's very obvious that the majority of Palestinians definitely do want Israel to end the Jews expelled and/or killed. But Americans that support Palestine are quite often unaware of that. So your logic doesn't really hold up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, stoner said: but what.....finish your racist remark. It starts with Uncle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, Jingthing said: It starts with Uncle. your true color showing well with this one. what vile remarks to make. disgusting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 8 minutes ago, stoner said: no he really isn't. the fact you keep repeating this lie on here with no recourse amazes me. It's not a lie. It's my considered opinion. The “Is Donald Trump a Fascist?” Debate Has Been Ended—by Donald Trump | The Nation The “Is Donald Trump a Fascist?” Debate Has Been Ended—by Donald Trump The former president’s rhetoric in a recent speech and on social media veered into openly eliminationist threats. Edited January 22 by Jingthing 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, stoner said: your true color showing well with this one. what vile remarks to make. disgusting. That's how I see him and I can guarantee to you that's how many blacks see him as well. VP picks don't need to help get the top elected. They usually don't historically. Their main job is to be totally loyal (Scott is perfect for that) and not to hurt the ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiochaser Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Like everything to do with the conflict, it's more complicated than that. It's very obvious that the majority of Palestinians definitely do want Israel to end the Jews expelled and/or killed. But Americans that support Palestine are quite often unaware of that. So your logic doesn't really hold up. The logic stands. I did an informal poll of some protestors in Philadelphia PA that were in support of the Palestinian people and asked this very question. Do you know that support of the Palestinian people is de facto support of hamas. Out of about 20-25 protestors only 2 said they did not support hamas the rest of them said they did. That was before I was threatened with physical violence if I did not leave the area! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: It's not a lie. It's my considered opinion. The “Is Donald Trump a Fascist?” Debate Has Been Ended—by Donald Trump | The Nation whatever you want. keep making racist comments while calling others racist on a constant basis. the hypocrisy is astounding. no need to reply to weasel out of it. it is all here for everyone to see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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