GammaGlobulin Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Anybody have any thoughts concerning which ASUS motherboard might work best with the Intel CPU: INTEL CORE I5-13500 2.5 GHz (SOCKET LGA 1700)? My need is to simultaneously connect to four computer displays. And, these displays must work at Full HD 1080p resolution, which will be suitable for normal office work, but not for high-resolution engineering purposes. a. I will NEVER buy a GPU to be connected to the mainboard. I do not like the noise. I do not like the fact that they burn out after limited use. b. So, I need to choose a motherboard (ASUS) which will be able to connect 4 monitors operating at standard resolution, not high resolution. Why do I NEED 4 monitors? This is NOT the question. I just need 4 monitors, for sure. The Intel i5 CPU that I have listed is capable of supporting 4 monitors. But, which mainboard will provide the sockets required to attach 4 monitors. Any thoughts? Regards, Note: I hate discrete GPUs. HATE is probably not a strong enough word. Tks Note: I think this CPU, listed above, is a great CPU for the money. Note2: Not on topic, but what power supply might be the most reliable for a new build? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 Actually, this CPU is better at a slightly higher cost: CPU (ซีพียู) INTEL CORE I5-13600K 3.5 GHz (SOCKET LGA 1700) But, which mainboard can I use with this CPU to attach 4 monitors, and this question still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 a. This CPU should be plenty to run four computer displays. b. The only question might be which ASUS mainboard would be suitable for the task. c. As someone already stated, one should not scrimp when choosing a decent CPU. d. This CPU has decent integrated graphics, and enough power to last for, maybe, another 8 years. e. But, how long with socket 1700 be popular? If the mainboard dies, will I be able to buy a new motherboard during the next three or four years, socket 1700? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 (edited) Also, while I am at it.... Would you go for a cheaper cooler than this one, for the 13600K CPU? Why doesn't Intel just supply an Intel stock cooler, anyway???!!! I do not understand this. In the past, Intel supplied stock coolers for its K CPUs, in fact. (By the way, I never intend to overclock this CPU....) Note: I do not like third-party CPU coolers! I have had very bad luck with them. The best coolers are the stock coolers from Intel..... Edited January 30 by GammaGlobulin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said: Also, while I am at it.... Would you go for a cheaper cooler than this one, for the 13600K CPU? Why doesn't Intel just supply an Intel stock cooler, anyway???!!! I do not understand this. In the past, Intel supplied stock coolers for its K CPUs, in fact. (By the way, I never intend to overclock this CPU....) Seems like a lot. Check Noctua prices. If you're not going to overclock the CPU, why buy the K series? With the money you could buy an F and a cheap graphics card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Seems like a lot. Check Noctua prices. If you're not going to overclock the CPU, why buy the K series? With the money you could buy an F and a cheap graphics card. I will NEVER again buy a discrete GPU. I will ONLY buy CPU with integrated graphics. This is certain. So, I just need Intel 770 integrated graphics, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 10 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Seems like a lot. Check Noctua prices. If you're not going to overclock the CPU, why buy the K series? By the way, in December of 2012, as I recall, I bought an i5-2500K CPU in Taipei, the year that the i5 CPU was a big deal. That CPU is still going strong in one of my desktop computers. Works great. I replaced the mainboard twice. But, the CPU is still fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 (edited) Furthermore: a. My main concern is to get the very best Intel integrated graphics. And, I could not care less about which Intel CPU I choose. b. I do NOT want to buy a third-party CPU cooler. Third-party coolers suck. They always die. c. I will NEVER, EVER choose a discrete GPU card. These SUCK THE BIG ONE! They always die, in the end, long before the Intel CPU. Just saying.... Edited January 30 by GammaGlobulin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 17 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said: I will NEVER again buy a discrete GPU. I will ONLY buy CPU with integrated graphics. This is certain. So, I just need Intel 770 integrated graphics, it seems. I can't imagine why. I had a i9-9900K but the onboard graphics wouldn't support a newer monitor, can't recall what it was. I forked out AUD $150 for a graphics card to fix the problem. At that ;price you can throw away a graphics card that fails out of warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, GammaGlobulin said: Furthermore: a. My main concern is to get the very best Intel integrated graphics. And, I care less about which Intel CPU I choose. b. I do NOT want to buy a third-party CPU cooler. Third-party coolers suck. They always die. c. I will NEVER, EVER choose a discrete GPU card. These SUCK THE BIG ONE! They always die, in the end, long before the Intel CPU. Just saying.... a. You're going to spend money unnecessarily. b and c. That isn't my experience and isn't what I'd advise anyone if they asked me. btw, you asked me, stop shouting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: I can't imagine why. I had a i9-9900K but the onboard graphics wouldn't support a newer monitor, can't recall what it was. I forked out AUD $150 for a graphics card to fix the problem. At that ;price you can throw away a graphics card that fails out of warranty. Never buy a discrete GPU! This is just one more thing to go wrong. If you can use integrated graphics, then you will save a lot of money. Discrete GPU sucks the Big One! As Torvalds told us.... NVIDIA: fU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, ozimoron said: a. You're going to spend money unnecessarily. b and c. That isn't my experience and isn't what I'd advise anyone if they asked me. btw, you asked me, stop shouting. Sorry... Tks for your input....which... Is very much appreciated, by the way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted January 30 Popular Post Share Posted January 30 (edited) If you really want a reliable computer cheap with nothing third party, just buy an Apple mac mini. In the end you'll be better off. edit: that won't work, the mac mini only supports 2 or 3 monitors. Edited January 30 by ozimoron 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, ozimoron said: If you really want a reliable computer cheap with nothing third party, just buy an Apple mac mini. In the end you'll be better off. They do support 4 monitors. Well, in fact, I will =====never===== use Apple products. Anyway, I am, here, speaking of Intel CPUs, integrated graphics, and four monitors, only. Not discussing Apple, actually. I am not considering AMD, also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 10 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said: Never buy a discrete GPU! This is just one more thing to go wrong. If you can use integrated graphics, then you will save a lot of money. Discrete GPU sucks the Big One! As Torvalds told us.... NVIDIA: fU! My boss had a dedicated video card that he needed to support 4 trading monitors. That card lasted for 5 years without a problem, and it had no fan to make noise. It was cheap, simple, and made attaching monitors easy. You are not trying to achieve record breaking frame rates in Call of Duty. You do not need some supercharged nvidia GPU. You just need a simple video card that supports 4 monitors. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, GammaGlobulin said: Well, in fact, I will =====never===== use Apple products. Anyway, I am, here, speaking of Intel CPUs, integrated graphics, and four monitors, only. Not discussing Apple, actually. I am not considering AMD, also. Well, I own all 3. The i9 I mentioned with a noctua cooler, a mac mini m2 and an ASUS mini Ryzen 7. I can't fault any of them. The non apples run Ubuntu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 Here is an important consideration when choosing a CPU: This means, next time I need to swap out a new motherboard, in case it dies, I will still be able to use my CPU with new motherboards, for quite a few years in the future, presumably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 (edited) 11 minutes ago, timendres said: My boss had a dedicated video card that he needed to support 4 trading monitors. Which fanless GPU was he using? Also, it is utter stupidity to add unnecessary complexity to your build by adding a discrete GPU when this is completely unwarranted. Just choose a good CPU with integrated Intel graphics, and then there is no reason to add a graphics card, obviously. Edited January 30 by GammaGlobulin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 9 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said: Which fanless GPU was he using? Also, it is utter stupidity to add unnecessary complexity to your build by adding a discrete GPU when this is completely unwarranted. Just choose a good CPU with integrated Intel graphics, and then there is no reason to add a graphics card, obviously. You are absolutely correct, of course. If you can configure a machine with integrated graphics that meets your needs, then all good. I just do not know enough about that (have not looked at PC hardware in over 10 years) to advise you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 (edited) Here is an interesting little review I found which seems to show that the 13600K is good for someone who does not want to replace their computer too often. Buy a good CPU, at first, and then use it for a very long time. Also, very decent integrated graphics on this Intel i5 CPU. Price is also good. The only downside might be power consumption My i5 CPUs are basically all just 65 watts. But, the 13600K is about double, according to what I have read. If you have your computers running 24/7/365, then this extra wattage is bound to make a difference. Still, it's mostly about onboard graphics, and this CPU is good enough in this respect, it seems. https://www.pcgamer.com/best-cpu-for-gaming/ Also, anyone interested in Intel i5 CPUs...might enjoy reading this: https://www.cpu-world.com/info/Intel/Intel_Core_i5.html https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i5/Intel-Core i5 i5-13600K.html Oh, well, then.... If an i5, then which ASUS mainboard? In light of the fact that 4 monitors must be connected.. NOTE:.... Edited January 30 by GammaGlobulin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 46 minutes ago, timendres said: You are absolutely correct, of course. If you can configure a machine with integrated graphics that meets your needs, then all good. I just do not know enough about that (have not looked at PC hardware in over 10 years) to advise you. I, like you, have not been fooling around with assembling computers for about 9 or 10 years. I have never connected 4 monitors to one PC. I typically just have 3 monitors connected to one PC, and then... I use a second PC to add more monitors. But this time, I want to have only ONE PC run four monitors. So, I have heard about this: Also, I was thinking about daisy chaining HDMI monitors, or something. The problem is that, as far as I know, the ASUS motherboards do not have 4 ports of monitors, typically. The CPU I will buy DOES support 4 monitors. But, will the cheap ASUS motherboard I hope to buy allow connection of 4 monitors? IDK.... Anybody know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 Anyway, One Desktop PC using on ASUS motherboard connected to four displays, while not using a discrete GPU? Not so easy... Three monitors to one PC is normal. But, four monitors seems to be atypical. How To: Not sure This is not the solution, by the way: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Buy a USB quad HDMI adaptor. https://plugable.com/products/usbc-768h4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 (edited) In the fine print, this motherboard does not support CPUs using more than 125 watts of power, and otherwise it might be fine for me. Unfortunately, checking the CPU of my choice, the i5-13600K uses up to 181 watts. So, this MB is NG for this CPU. Otherwise, this MB would be almost perfect. Edited January 30 by GammaGlobulin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Ralf001 said: Buy a USB quad HDMI adaptor. https://plugable.com/products/usbc-768h4 No WAY....Jose! I purchased two of these, almost identical, when I was in ChengDu, China, years ago. Total GARBAGE....IMHO.... Or, as Jonathan Winters might have better stated, in French... The price for this garbage...in China, when I bought one or two...was super cheap. Same garbage. Lower price in China... Edited January 30 by GammaGlobulin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said: The problem is that, as far as I know, the ASUS motherboards do not have 4 ports of monitors, typically. How about ASUS TUF Gaming B760M-PLUS DDR5: It has one HDMI port and three DisplayPort ports? Of course, it may not be available here. There are a number of other boards with various combinations of HDMI and DisplayPort outputs. Do you already have your monitors? You can daisy-chain DisplayPort monitors, IIRC up to 4 on a single DP output (never tried that mind) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 22 minutes ago, Crossy said: How about ASUS TUF Gaming B760M-PLUS DDR5: It has one HDMI port and three DisplayPort ports? Of course, it may not be available here. There are a number of other boards with various combinations of HDMI and DisplayPort outputs. Do you already have your monitors? You can daisy-chain DisplayPort monitors, IIRC up to 4 on a single DP output (never tried that mind) I have about 8 computer displays hanging about here. No problem with the displays. But.... Seems the CPU wattage on this MB is only rated up to 150 watts. And, the CPU, i5-13600K, requires maximum 181 watts. Not sure if this might actually be a problem. STILL, a very nice MB at a very reasonable price, and available here, easily.... This is a budget MB which would be good for my purposes. Tks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, GammaGlobulin said: I have about 8 computer displays hanging about here. But what interfaces do they have? You may need DisplayPort adapters to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 4 minutes ago, Crossy said: But what interfaces do they have? You may need DisplayPort adapters to use them. Yes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said: No WAY....Jose! I purchased two of these, almost identical, when I was in ChengDu, China, years ago. Total GARBAGE....IMHO.... Or, as Jonathan Winters might have better stated, in French... The price for this garbage...in China, when I bought one or two...was super cheap. Same garbage. Lower price in China... Sorry to hear you purchased a dodgy China piece. Mine from plugable works great with 4 monitors off my laptop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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