advise needed. visarun. got rejected on airport

[FritsSikkink]

9 minutes ago, Caldera said:

 

 

As always, you're providing no evidence for your sweeping claims, it's just the usual "get a proper visa" drivel. Without knowing all the facts of each individual case, it's best not to jump to any conclusions. 

Seems you have reading problems, from the OP:

"in condo where gf (longtime) is waiting."

[chippendale]

5 hours ago, popel said:

does someone got a TR visa in vietnam recently? airport staff suggesting that.. 

 

Pray and hope for the best!

[northsouthdevide]

Im suprised you didnt get in with 1 remaining land border bounce still left in 12 months. 

I dont think it matters which country you enter from. 

Whatever the reason for your rejection will be in the system now. 

You better aquire a fresh visa from a thai embassy in Vietnam, or Cambodia /Loas, then you can re enter with peace of mind. 

 

[timendres]

You may want to consider buying a ticket for your gf to bring your belongings to you in Vietnam (or where ever you end up).

[proton]

5 hours ago, Ben Zioner said:

Why are so many people doing this to themselves? Get a good job home where you get 10 weeks paid leave, come 3 times a year, if you have the urge. But there are so many better countries than Thailand... Easy and peaceful, buy yes, work is needed.

 

Social media is full of- I quit my job, got a one way ticket and moved to Thailand vlogs, living the dream type mis information for clicks.

[Ben Zioner]

18 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Social media is full of- I quit my job, got a one way ticket and moved to Thailand vlogs, living the dream type mis information for clicks.

Mare's nest.

[thecyclist]

7 hours ago, popel said:

now waiting with airline staff for boarding. still don't know if they let me in again (vietnam). my country gets 15 day free every 30 or 60 days (?) still not got passport back..

No limit on visa exempt entries into Vietnam. And it's 45 days now, not 15 days. 

Edited February 3 by thecyclist
Typo

[sikishrory]

16 minutes ago, thecyclist said:

No limit on visa exempt entries into Vietnam. And it's 45 days now, not 15 days. 

Is vietnam visa exempt now? No need for bs online visa before arriving anymore?

[mikeymike100]

6 hours ago, NextG said:

It’s clear that you REALLY want to be the useless Troll on this thread. But how about you give it a rest? You’ve done your pontificating duty for the day. 

Exactly, why do people do this, they don't help the Op, they just cause more problems!!

[Ben Zioner]

2 hours ago, Caldera said:

As always, you're providing no evidence for your sweeping claims, it's just the usual "get a proper visa" drivel. Without knowing all the facts of each individual case, it's best not to jump to any conclusions. 

But isn't getting the "proper visa" like driving on the right side of the road? OP has a "long standing GF" so there is a proper visa for that purpose, if he can't meet the requirements it is a lucky escape for the said GF. The system works.

[Caldera]

24 minutes ago, sikishrory said:

Is vietnam visa exempt now? No need for bs online visa before arriving anymore?

 

That depends on your nationality. Surprisingly, many "Western" countries including Australia and the US still don't get visa exempt entry, but a good number of European countries do.

[Caldera]

2 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

But isn't getting the "proper visa" like driving on the right side of the road? OP has a "long standing GF" so there is a proper visa for that purpose, if he can't meet the requirements it is a lucky escape for the said GF. The system works.

 

That's a ridiculous comparison.

 

Driving on the wrong side of the road, you could get hit by oncoming traffic within seconds. It's just plain wrong and foolish right from the start.

 

Not so with visa exempt entries. Surely a number of visa exempt entries is acceptable, whether you visit your girlfriend or not. Leaving aside that you need to meet her in the first place, maybe while holidaying in Thailand. When exactly you cross the line into "proper visa required" territory is the question, and there's no single right answer. 

[BritTim]

2 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Having a local girlfriend while being a "tourist" is one clue.

If one can afford very long holidays without working, there are other visa's available when under 50. 

Apart from tourist or education visas, what other visa options do you suggest for those under age 50? Thailand Elite membership, never a cheap option, is now really expensive.

[sikishrory]

15 minutes ago, Caldera said:

 

That depends on your nationality. Surprisingly, many "Western" countries including Australia and the US still don't get visa exempt entry, but a good number of European countries do.

ahhh that sucks. Thanks for the info

[Pla Simon]

9 hours ago, popel said:

hello..

i where coming 10/2023 on a touristvisa. extended at immigration and one run to Cambodia. 3 days ago vietnam and back. officer says me staying last time (a year ago) nearly a year. (visarunner) and i can't go in.

now on my way back to vietnam. 

not sure they let me in again but vietjetair staff suggest a visa from embassy in saigon. 

think i got two choices.. going back to europe or trying get in via Cambodia.

everything! luggage,cards,cash.. in condo where gf (longtime) is waiting.

my head is nearly blowing.. need some advise.. thanks so much..

 

... have seen about 20 people last evening/night that got send back.. 

 

Hi Popel.

 

If all else fails - book an online appointment with Thai Embassy in Vientiane, get there, meet the requirements, and you're more or less guaranteed a tourist visa.

 

1. 3 Months Bank statements, evidencing >20,000 thb balance.

 

2. Proof of address in Thailand, or hotel booking.

 

3. Filled out form + 1,000 thb.

 

Collect after 2 working days.

 

Cross over at friendship bridge, Nongkhai, then home to relax...

 

Happy travels.

 

 

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, BritTim said:

Apart from tourist or education visas, what other visa options do you suggest for those under age 50? Thailand Elite membership, never a cheap option, is now really expensive.

If you don't want or need to work: proper Education, Investment or Marriage

If you want to work: Business, LTR, Smart (have a new one now Smart S (Startup) | Smart Visa (boi.go.th))  

[JimTripper]

Siem Reap is my fallback in any situation like this as it's so close to Thailand. I'm assuming you have an ATM card with you with access to money. If you don't have an ATM card or credit card with you (never travel like that) hole up and ask your bank to express one to you in Cambodia using the guesthouse address. Often sites like Airbnb or Agoda will hold your credit card info in the system so you could book a month anywhere in an emergency even if you don't have your card. If you have no money take a bath in the river and check into a guesthouse where you pay at the end and have the ATM card expressed over Asap. If you have no phone ask to use the guesthouse phone, or if not sneak down and use it while people are sleeping or tell them to put calls on your tab. If you have no passport go directly to your embassy, declare an emergency loss of passport and get a letter that the new one is on the way and use that to check in to the guesthouse.

Edited February 3 by JimTripper

[impulse]

2 hours ago, Ben Zioner said:

But isn't getting the "proper visa" like driving on the right side of the road? OP has a "long standing GF" so there is a proper visa for that purpose, if he can't meet the requirements it is a lucky escape for the said GF. The system works.

 

More like suggesting to homeless people that they just need to buy a house...

 

Reading along, it seems the OP left his cash and cards in Thailand with his GF, he's running low on pages in his passport, and he's not sure they'll let him back into Vietnam to even go to get a visa.  He's got an extensive history with Thailand (including a long term GF) and this is the first time in 20 years this has happened.  (I hope I haven't conflated posts from other guys)

 

I don't have any advice for the OP.  But I would point out that this could be a great cautionary tale for anyone in a similar situation.  When you fly out, be prepared for contingencies like a difficult re-entry.  That means backup cash, cards, extra socks and underwear, etc.

I wish the OP well, because I have met a lot of good guys whose visa loopholes slammed shut since the 2014 coup when the rules (and enforcement) really started tightening up.  It was sad to see them have to leave their life in Thailand behind.

 

[Ben Zioner]

2 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

More like suggesting to homeless people that they just need to buy a house...

 

Reading along, it seems the OP left his cash and cards in Thailand with his GF, he's running low on pages in his passport, and he's not sure they'll let him back into Vietnam to even go to get a visa.  He's got an extensive history with Thailand (including a long term GF) and this is the first time in 20 years this has happened.  (I hope I haven't conflated posts from other guys)

 

I don't have any advice for the OP.  But I would point out that this could be a great cautionary tale for anyone in a similar situation.  When you fly out, be prepared for contingencies like a difficult re-entry.  That means backup cash, cards, extra socks and underwear, etc.

I wish the OP well, because I have met a lot of good guys whose visa loopholes slammed shut since the 2014 coup when the rules (and enforcement) really started tightening up.  It was sad to see them have to leave their life in Thailand behind.

 

Correct, but OP did it all to himself, it seems he had to decades to get his affairs in order. 

[geisha]

2 hours ago, BritTim said:

Apart from tourist or education visas, what other visa options do you suggest for those under age 50? Thailand Elite membership, never a cheap option, is now really expensive.

Exactly, at one time in my life I was under 50, had a very good job in EU that allowed me to travel over long periods ( seasonal). There was no other option for me to stay without extensions or border hops, and there are still not today. Also, for those over 50 , not everyone wants a retirement visa if they are still working /have business in another country. Lots here seem to think that some are working illegally when they are not.  And as said , there is no legal limit to entries by air. So if there were a limit, like with land entries, this would not be a problem. 

[impulse]

42 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

Correct, but OP did it all to himself, it seems he had to decades to get his affairs in order. 

 

Probably so, but the guy came here for advice, not for judgment and not for sympathy.  Besides, he seems to be contrite, and hopefully has learned a valuable lesson.  And maybe some other guys can learn from his experience.

 

As much as it embarrasses me, I've had a few visa faux pas in my travels over the past 25 years or so.

 

[timendres]

3 hours ago, Caldera said:

Not so with visa exempt entries. Surely a number of visa exempt entries is acceptable, whether you visit your girlfriend or not. Leaving aside that you need to meet her in the first place, maybe while holidaying in Thailand. When exactly you cross the line into "proper visa required" territory is the question, and there's no single right answer. 

 

Right. There is a big difference between staying the full length of a VE entry then exiting and entering in one day for another VE to stay the full length again (rinse, repeat), as opposed to coming VE for the weekend two or three times every month, or coming VA for 30 days two or three times a year. And this is not lost on IO's (in general). That said, I believe most people here know what a "proper visa" is for their case. It is just that sometimes that visa/extension is not available to them.

[CecilM]

The g/f can visit you in Vietnam. She can bring your stuff. Have a holiday. Then fly home and get a proper visa. The times for multiple easy visa runs are over. 

[Jenkins9039]

Marriage Visa

[NanLaew]

7 hours ago, Caldera said:

 

 

As always, you're providing no evidence for your sweeping claims, it's just the usual "get a proper visa" drivel. Without knowing all the facts of each individual case, it's best not to jump to any conclusions. 

 

If the OP's important stuff is in Thailand at a place where he cohabits with a long-time girlfriend, then the very, very obvious conclusion is that he is not a tourist.

 

That and being a self-confessed visa runner with a 20-year success rate that appears to have just been nipped in the bud.

[Liverpool Lou]

13 hours ago, popel said:

 

my pass is nearly full. officer was meaning I've been last year to long here.. and.. he doesn't like "visarunner".. 

(first time happen in 20 years)

So get a visa that allows you to stay here without playing the system that has caught up with your living here.  

Edited February 3 by Liverpool Lou

[ukrules]

13 hours ago, popel said:

now on my way back to vietnam. 

not sure they let me in again

 

Did you get back into Vietnam or not?

[it is what it is]

 

been traveling most of my adult life, worked in many countries, visited around 60, never had any visa issues. follow the visa rules for the country you are visiting and you'll have no problems. it's not rocket science.

[DrJack54]

21 minutes ago, it is what it is said:

......follow the visa rules for the country you are visiting and you'll have no problems. it's not rocket science.

The point is that Thailand for some unknown reason does not have rules in regards to visa exempt via air. 

 

Yes max 2 visa exempt via land per calendar year is a rule. 

Very simple clear rule.

Why not have a similar rule for visa exempt entries via AIR. 

It's not rocket science. 

 

All of these posts re "get the correct visa" are nonsense and off topic. 

 

The OP is currently in poor situation looking for suggestions. 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

30 minutes ago, it is what it is said:

 

been traveling most of my adult life, worked in many countries, visited around 60, never had any visa issues. follow the visa rules for the country you are visiting and you'll have no problems. it's not rocket science.

 

   Thailand doesn't seem to have any set visa rules though , its very much up to the discretion and mood of the immigration officer