Dengue Surge Hits Provinces with 8,000+ Cases

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Dengue fever has escalated into a significant concern in Thailand, with the Department of Disease Control (DDC) reporting over 8,000 infections and 13 fatalities in January.

 

DDC Director-General Thongchai Keeratihuttayakorn highlighted a sharp 91.25% increase in cases compared to January of the previous year, where 4,286 individuals were affected, noting as many as 8,197 people have contracted the disease so far.

 

Dengue fever, a viral infection spread by Aedes mosquitoes, is prevalent in tropical and subtropical regions. Symptoms include high fever, severe headaches, muscle and joint pains, nausea, vomiting, skin rashes, and swollen glands. The disease poses a higher risk to children aged five to 14, with the majority of cases reported in the southern and central parts of Thailand.

 

By Goongnang Suksawat

 

Full story: The Pattaya News  2024-02-07

 

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[KannikaP]

Shame they did not specify the Provinces concerned.

[happysoul]

Saw that in Chiang Mai Ram the other day. It's for a Dengue vaccine. Wonder if it works ? Anybody know something about it ?

Edited February 7 by happysoul
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[NativeBob]

I think I had it twice over 4-5 years in Bangkok. Nasty sh*t. The most annoying was sudden change of taste: drinking water tastes like sewage etc. But never lasted more than 5 days. Recovery to 100% strength had before took about 2-3 weeks.

Was there some scandal with Dengue vaccine in Philipinnes?

Nasty indeed

[dinsdale]

Pity they weren't focussing on this instead of Omicron. The sad truth is Thais are not exactly tidy people and this will continue.

Edited February 7 by dinsdale

[JimTripper]

4 hours ago, NativeBob said:

I think I had it twice over 4-5 years in Bangkok. Nasty sh*t. The most annoying was sudden change of taste: drinking water tastes like sewage etc. But never lasted more than 5 days. Recovery to 100% strength had before took about 2-3 weeks.

Was there some scandal with Dengue vaccine in Philipinnes?

Nasty indeed

Did you go into the hospital or clinic or just wait it out on your own?

[Celsius]

Expect to pay 50k a night at the hospital to get "treated" for this.

[NativeBob]

7 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

Did you go into the hospital or clinic or just wait it out on your own?

yes and no. 
Yes: my son collapsed in dep.store and we went to St. Louis Hospital. 5 days under dripper (basic solution nothing special). Every morning (6AM) strange student from local college came to take a blood sample. Why? Maybe study? cost 28.000 THB.
He recovered himself.
No: I didn't. It is your immune system that fights Dengue. You just sit and wait until its over. 

PS: I saw a little girl in our kindergarten after Dengue - she lost so much weight that turn her into a shadow. Literally. So skinny!

PPS: few years later I got it again. Same suffering and weakness, same change of taste.

Vitamins don't do much. Its only your immune system fights it. And common sense to avoid places with stale water and pure luck.

[arick]

11 hours ago, happysoul said:

Saw that in Chiang Mai Ram the other day. It's for a Dengue vaccine. Wonder if it works ? Anybody know something about it ?

Doesn't work.  Or if it does just for a couple of months.   not recommended.  That what I get from reading the scientific papers. 

The private hospitals are just offering it for the money or to get rid of old stock.

[arick]

7 hours ago, NativeBob said:

yes and no. 
Yes: my son collapsed in dep.store and we went to St. Louis Hospital. 5 days under dripper (basic solution nothing special). Every morning (6AM) strange student from local college came to take a blood sample. Why? Maybe study? cost 28.000 THB.
He recovered himself.
No: I didn't. It is your immune system that fights Dengue. You just sit and wait until its over. 

PS: I saw a little girl in our kindergarten after Dengue - she lost so much weight that turn her into a shadow. Literally. So skinny!

PPS: few years later I got it again. Same suffering and weakness, same change of taste.

Vitamins don't do much. Its only your immune system fights it. And common sense to avoid places with stale water and pure luck.

28,000 baht for blood test?

[arick]

11 hours ago, happysoul said:

Saw that in Chiang Mai Ram the other day. It's for a Dengue vaccine. Wonder if it works ? Anybody know something about it ?

The percentages aren't the whole picture and not factual it's just a marketing gimmick

[arick]

1 minute ago, arick said:

The percentages aren't the whole picture and not factual it's just a marketing gimmick

Only children that have had dengue fever before should be vaccinated according to the CDC 

[FruitPudding]

9 hours ago, dinsdale said:

The sad truth is Thais are not exactly tidy people and this will continue.

 

It's often fascinated me that they are good with personal hygiene,  but awful with their environment 

[ChipButty]

That Dengue fever is not funny, I've had it twice first time they kept me in hospital, rip off merchants, the second time I stayed home, 

Why do they need to take blood test every day? 

Make sure you have loads of water and eat plenty of Khao Tom, rice porridge soup, 

[RobU]

As far as I am aware there are 3 strains of dengue fever. You can only be immune against one of them at any time. If you catch one of the other 2 strains, the initial immunisation for the first strain fails and you are susceptible to infection by that strain.

Edited February 8 by RobU
Clarity

[ChipButty]

6 minutes ago, RobU said:

As far as I am aware there are 3 strains of dengue fever. You can only be immunised against one of them at any time. If you are immunised against one of the other 2 strains, the initial immunisation for the first strain fails and you are susceptible to infection by that strain.

There are four strains of the virus: DENV-1, DENV-2, DENV-3, and DENV-4. The disease spreads by the mosquitoes as they bite a host – who is already sick with the disease and still has a fever,

[RobU]

8 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

There are four strains of the virus: DENV-1, DENV-2, DENV-3, and DENV-4. The disease spreads by the mosquitoes as they bite a host – who is already sick with the disease and still has a fever,

Thanks ChipButty I wasn't sure about how many strains.  I do know you can only ever be immune to one of them at any time

[BenCrew]

6 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

There are four strains of the virus: DENV-1, DENV-2, DENV-3, and DENV-4. The disease spreads by the mosquitoes as they bite a host – who is already sick with the disease and still has a fever,

I caught Dengue a few years back, hospital stay for 5 nights, but 6 weeks until fully recovered and normal energy levels returned. Asked what happens if you contract it again, apparently, if it's the same strain, there is no effect within 2 years, but if it's a different strain, the symptons are twice as bad! The aching was the worst part, mainly in the back.

[thesetat2013]

8 hours ago, NativeBob said:

yes and no. 
Yes: my son collapsed in dep.store and we went to St. Louis Hospital. 5 days under dripper (basic solution nothing special). Every morning (6AM) strange student from local college came to take a blood sample. Why? Maybe study? cost 28.000 THB.
He recovered himself.
No: I didn't. It is your immune system that fights Dengue. You just sit and wait until its over. 

PS: I saw a little girl in our kindergarten after Dengue - she lost so much weight that turn her into a shadow. Literally. So skinny!

PPS: few years later I got it again. Same suffering and weakness, same change of taste.

Vitamins don't do much. Its only your immune system fights it. And common sense to avoid places with stale water and pure luck.

My 8 year old daughter got it in school in Prachuap. Nasty. Worse than COVID. Took a week for symptoms to subside. Luckily she did not need hospitalisation. But we had to work hard to keep the fever at a stable temperature. 

[ChipButty]

21 minutes ago, BenCrew said:

I caught Dengue a few years back, hospital stay for 5 nights, but 6 weeks until fully recovered and normal energy levels returned. Asked what happens if you contract it again, apparently, if it's the same strain, there is no effect within 2 years, but if it's a different strain, the symptons are twice as bad! The aching was the worst part, mainly in the back.

I am led to believe if two different strains fight against each other in your body, 

[newbee2022]

Go for a vaccine. End of.

[ChipButty]

23 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Go for a vaccine. End of.

Currently, Thailand has dengue vaccine that works well for ones who are 9 – 45 years of age

 

First type – Vaccine for people who have previously been infected with dengue fever.  This can be given to people 6 – 45 years old.  In cases where there is no history confirming the infection, a blood test is required before vaccination.  3 doses are needed in total, each separated by 6 months.

Second Type – Vaccine for people who have and have not been infected previously.  This can be administered to anyone 4 – 60 years old without the need for a blood test.  There are 2 doses in total, each is separated by 3 months.

Edited February 8 by ChipButty

[mikebell]

Thai drainage engineers manufacture perfect mosquito breeding chambers every 10 metres that leave six inches of stagnant water before the next overflow pipe.

[sheldoncollier]

15 hours ago, happysoul said:

Saw that in Chiang Mai Ram the other day. It's for a Dengue vaccine. Wonder if it works ? Anybody know something about it ?

I just happened to hear a German tropical disease specialist doctor giving a talk on it last week. He highly recommended it and said there were no side effects.

[NativeBob]

10 hours ago, arick said:

28,000 baht for blood test?

Single room w/TV. sh*tty meals with french fries and kao-tom soup. Dripper with (I guess) glucose solution. 2 visits of some woman who doesn't speak English and very arrogant. And yes, every morning some student opened door, turn on light and took blood from vein. 

5 nights. 28.000 THB
St.Louis Hospital near Holy See residence. Avoid at all chances!

[arick]

On 2/8/2024 at 7:03 AM, ChipButty said:

That Dengue fever is not funny, I've had it twice first time they kept me in hospital, rip off merchants, the second time I stayed home, 

Why do they need to take blood test every day? 

Make sure you have loads of water and eat plenty of Khao Tom, rice porridge soup, 

Imagine all the rice soup leaking out inside your body 

[mfinasi]

23 hours ago, NativeBob said:

Single room w/TV. sh*tty meals with french fries and kao-tom soup. Dripper with (I guess) glucose solution. 2 visits of some woman who doesn't speak English and very arrogant. And yes, every morning some student opened door, turn on light and took blood from vein. 

5 nights. 28.000 THB
St.Louis Hospital near Holy See residence. Avoid at all chances!

 

TBF, that is a good price, bloody awesome price. I know people who have paid more than that for one night and over 100k for 4/nights, I wouldn't be surprised to find people here that have paid 50k for one night. Yes you will rarely see room fee for more than 12k but it's everything else - and absolutely everything - it adds up quickly.  Even in the high-so hospitals they still barge (rightly so) into the room at regular intervals in the night to check on whatever machines and drip etc..  You still have blood drawn, and I'd rather have the light on rather than vein misses and arm swaps - you'll get charged for the extra syringe tip in these scenarios too if they don't get the vein first time - little things add up rapidly..   You still have dozens of lab tests on your bill. You still have have 300baht for joke and orange juice that you didn't eat but you didn't realized that was getting added on every 8 hours...  You got a bargain mate! 
 

Edited February 9 by mfinasi

[sandyf]

On 2/7/2024 at 11:23 PM, NativeBob said:

And common sense to avoid places with stale water and pure luck.

Aedes mosquitoes prefer to feed on human blood rather than animals so common sense would be to avoid being near other humans.

I got it when bitten in the toilets of a Pattaya hotel, you could say a dengue dump.

[freedomnow]

Read up on risks of that vaccine for your age and also take into account if you had dengue before..its a tad complicated on risks with that vaccine.

 

I had it already and my fear is a 2nd time might lose me a limb or organs or worse.

[NativeBob]

On 2/9/2024 at 11:54 AM, mfinasi said:

You got a bargain mate! 

Nope. that is a ripoff, mate.

There are many prices for hospitals accomodations, and St.Louis overcharged (IMHO) 500% at least.
For next time I'll buy dripper and learn how to IV myself. it is no-brainer. 

Or get some help from friends. 

PS: 100K for 4 nights of staying in hospital with Dengue? Every hospital has some sort of luxury accomodation, suite, penthouse, whatever. So what?